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Emily Clarke 4:55 pm on March 21, 2023
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Performance Chat Summary: 21 March 2023

Meeting agenda here and the full chat log is available beginning here on Slack.

Announcements

  • Release the Performance Lab pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party. 2.1.0 yesterday

Priority Projects

Server Response Time

Link to roadmap projects

Contributors: @joemcgill @spacedmonkey @aristath

  • @spacedmonkey I have been working on profiling translations and looking into how we can make them faster
  • @joemcgill working with @spacedmonkey on comparing notes this week on some initial profiling that we’ve done. I’m still struggling a bit to write all of this up in a shareable way, given that I’ve got one arm in a sling, but we should have some good progress to share by next week.
  • @spacedmonkey committed the following issues
  • @spacedmonkey On autoloading, I did some quick profiling on it and a seeing slower performance after the change. Around 5ms on a home page view.
    • @flixos90 Yeah that covers roughly with benchmarks I had done a few months back
    • @spacedmonkey I tested this – https://github.com/WordPress/wordpress-develop/pull/3470 There maybe benefits for other requests types, like REST APIs
    • @flixos90 Autoloading is tricky. There is probably some memory benefit of not loading as much PHPPHP The web scripting language in which WordPress is primarily architected. WordPress requires PHP 7.4 or higher code, but we’ll have to assess the performance impact more. Of course autoloading is a good practice, but we also need a good argument to support getting this into coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress.. And if it actually slows down server response time, I would say we shouldn’t push it. But more research needs to be done.

Database Optimization

Link to roadmap projects

Contributors: @aristath @spacedmonkey @olliejones @rjasdfiii

JavaScriptJavaScript JavaScript or JS is an object-oriented computer programming language commonly used to create interactive effects within web browsers. WordPress makes extensive use of JS for a better user experience. While PHP is executed on the server, JS executes within a user’s browser. https://www.javascript.com & CSSCSS Cascading Style Sheets.

Link to roadmap projects

Contributors: @mukesh27 @10upsimon @adamsilverstein

  • @10upsimon gave his update on Enhancing the Scripts APIAPI An API or Application Programming Interface is a software intermediary that allows programs to interact with each other and share data in limited, clearly defined ways. with a loading strategy ahead of time
    • Engineering for the epic as a whole has been completed and is in round 1 of code review and iteration – work can be seen here. We anticipate an iterative feedback and implementation loopLoop The Loop is PHP code used by WordPress to display posts. Using The Loop, WordPress processes each post to be displayed on the current page, and formats it according to how it matches specified criteria within The Loop tags. Any HTML or PHP code in the Loop will be processed on each post. https://codex.wordpress.org/The_Loop to continue into next week, followed by a full and final code and functional review of all work by EOW next week, thus concluding engineering and being in a state to consider and implement a core merge proposal mid-April.
    • A developer testing plan is currently in review, which aims to support testing efforts of all engineering work carried out. This includes validation of all unit tests introduced as part of said work, and defines functional testing approaches, of which popular WordPress themes and plugins are included as part thereof.
    • An approach for documentation (automated/code reference & community) has been discussed and is soon to be executed. Draft documentation items will be produced for review, with the aim of being released as soon after the core merge as possible.

Images

Link to roadmap projects

Contributors: @flixos90 @thekt12 @adamsilverstein @joemcgill

  • @adamsilverstein I have an update about the image comparison game/study I ran at WordCampWordCamp WordCamps are casual, locally-organized conferences covering everything related to WordPress. They're one of the places where the WordPress community comes together to teach one another what they’ve learned throughout the year and share the joy. Learn more. Asia. In the game people compare two images generated by WordPress to the original uploaded image. The image quality setting between the images varies and the format changes as well, so far I’m testing with WebP and JPEG and quality settings from 70 to 90.
  • @adamsilverstein Here is a doc with a summary of the results and a bit of analysis as well as a link to a sheet with the raw data:
    • To summarize the results though:
      • People loved playing the game and also became super engaged about images
      • We didn’t gather enough data to have statistically meaningful results
      • Anecdotally, most people struggled to tell which image was closer to the original
  • @joemcgill I’m starting a high-level review of our approach to calculating the sizes attribute for images in WordPress this week. It’s the first step for me to work on ways we can improve some of the base assumptions that the current approach takes and see if we can improve it now that we have more information and blockBlock Block is the abstract term used to describe units of markup that, composed together, form the content or layout of a webpage using the WordPress editor. The idea combines concepts of what in the past may have achieved with shortcodes, custom HTML, and embed discovery into a single consistent API and user experience. themes.
  • @flixos90 I have been researching the remaining problems with lazy-loaded LCP images, with some good findings. I should have something to share in a week or two. Likely this will be in form of a few new TracTrac An open source project by Edgewall Software that serves as a bug tracker and project management tool for WordPress. tickets with things we should fix. It’s worth noting that still more than 20% of LCP images today are being lazy-loaded with the loading attribute. This is where WordPress core can help.
    • (Additionally ~10% of LCP images today are lazy-loaded through other custom JSJS JavaScript, a web scripting language typically executed in the browser. Often used for advanced user interfaces and behaviors. technologies, so that’s something where plugins and libraries will have to do the work. Maybe something we can help facilitate)

Measurement

Link to roadmap projects

Contributors: @adamsilverstein @olliejones @joemcgill @mukesh27

  • @joemcgill Automated performance timing continues to be collected and was useful while reviewing potential performance regressions during release candidates for 6.2. We are starting to put some thought into what the next improvements should be. If anyone has specific ideas they think should be considered, I’d certainly love input. Will share some ideas in the coming weeks.
  • @adamsilverstein I wanted to link to a Drupal ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. where their  team is working on adding automated performance testing for Drupal  core: https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/3346765. The approach they are taking is quite different, with a plan to store performance traces using a tool like Open Telemetry or “jaeger” (new to me) – although they are starting more simply like we have. I feel like it is worth following their effort as we can always learn from each other

Ecosystem Tools

Link to roadmap projects

Contributors: @joegrainger

  • @joegrainger We are working on the final elements on the Plugin Checker infrastructure with plans to complete this by the end of the week. From next week we’ll be performing initial testing and review of the infrastructure before working on the additional checks. Progress as always can be seen on the GitHub repo here. Please feel free to take a look and leave any thoughts/ideas you may have in the repo.

Creating Standalone Plugins

Link to GitHub overview issue

Contributors: @flixos90 @mukesh27 @10upsimon

New Projects / Proposals

  • A polite reminder, our 2023 roadmap is intentionally broad. Despite there being clear workstreams envisioned within the highlighted priorities, the team aims to support contributors with additional related ideas

Open Floor

  • n/a

Our next chat will be held on Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 16:00 UTC in the #core-performance channel in Slack.

#core-media, #core-performance, #performance, #performance-chat, #summary

Emily Clarke 11:53 am on March 21, 2023
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Performance Chat Agenda: 21 March 2023

Here is the agenda for this week’s performance team meeting scheduled for March 21, 2023 at 16:00 UTC.

This meeting happens in the #core-performance channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Make WordPress Slack.

#agenda, #meeting, #performance, #performance-chat

Fabian Kaegy 8:41 am on March 21, 2023
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Editor Chat Agenda: March 22nd 2023

Facilitator and notetaker: @fabiankaegy

This is the agenda for the weekly editor chat scheduled for Wednesday, March 22nd 2023, 03:00 PM GMT+1. This meeting is held in the #core-editor channel in the Making WordPress SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/.

WordPress 6.2 will be released on Tuesday March 28th. We are in the final sprint of testing the release candidates.

GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ 15.4 will be released later today.

Key project updates:

Task Coordination.

Open Floor – extended edition.

If you are not able to attend the meeting, you are encouraged to share anything relevant for the discussion:

  • If you have an update for the main site editing projects, please feel free to share as a comment or come prepared for the meeting itself.
  • If you have anything to share for the Task Coordination section, please leave it as a comment on this post.
  • If you have anything to propose for the agenda or other specific items related to those listed above, please leave a comment below.

#agenda, #core-editor, #core-editor-agenda, #meeting

Birgit Pauli-Haack 4:51 pm on March 19, 2023
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Editor chat summary: March 15th, 2023

This post summarizes the weekly editor chat meeting (agenda for March 15th meeting) held on  Wednesday, March 15, 2023, 03:00 PM GMT+1. in Slack. Moderated by @bph

Announcements & Links

Key project updates

@annezazu

posted an update on the Phase 2 Overview Tracking Issue (Update March 13, 2023) (Sorry, I overlooked it for the meeting)

@twstokes

posted an update from the Mobile team

Task Coordination

@get_dave

commented on the agenda post: “I’m seeking feedback on some proposals to preload Navigation Menus and Template Parts (server side) in order to improve the perceived editor load times.It does involve certain compromises and assumptions which I’d like to discuss in more detail and also find more concrete evidence for. Any help much appreciated.”

Open Floor

@Mdxf

commented on the agenda:  “I vote to improve the perceived load times on the Browser Mode + also on the “back to WP adminadmin (and super admin) menu” action (when clicking on the site logo on top left) !!! (here on FF it is very slow, i did not test on Chrome)….”  @ndiego suggested you create new GitHub issue, detailing exactly what you are seeing . In his experience, slowness in the Site Editor that is exacerbated by third-party plugins, so it would be good to also understand the setup you use.

@ndiego

“As everyone is aware, we have a LOT of open issues and PRs in the GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ repo. The Triagetriage The act of evaluating and sorting bug reports, in order to decide priority, severity, and other factors. team does a fantastic job, and @mamaduka and I have been running weekly bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. scrubs here in #coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress.-editor. Yet, the number of open items continues to rise. After the 6.2 release, I will be spending some time thinking about how we can better tackle this situation, but I did want to also call attention to a discussion started by @tomjdevisser on GitHubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged by the repository owner. https://github.com/ Discussion: “Auto-closing inactive issues to shift focus towards important issues” If you have time to provide feedback or thoughts, it would be much appreciated.”

Here is a post from two year’s ago. Stale Issues in Gutenberg Repository  but with no solution/decision.

@hellofromtonya contributed how it is handled in TracTrac An open source project by Edgewall Software that serves as a bug tracker and project management tool for WordPress.

“In Trac, there are 2 ways it’s handled:

  • Add a close keyword with a comment that it will be closed in x amount of time without reporter follow-up.
  • Or close with a reason and a comment to re-open if more information is available for further investigation or consideration.

This is a manual ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker.-by-ticket triage process” She clarified further: “The close keyword with message gives all who previously contributed to the ticket the opportunity to revive it. If they are still interested in it, it invites them back while also setting the expectation that it will be closed otherwise.”

You can read throught the comments in the meeting following the message

Meeting participants were asked to contribute their ideas to the GitHub Discussion: “Auto-closing inactive issues… “ as well.

Props to @paaljoachim for review

#core-editor-summary, #gutenberg, #meeting-notes, #summary

marybaum 9:30 am on March 17, 2023
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Dev chat Summary, March 15, 2023

1. Welcome and housekeeping

@francina led the chat. The meeting start on the coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. channel of the Make WordPress SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/.

The agenda, prepared by @webcommsat, has a full list of 6.2 links, only new links are listed below.

Last week’s dev chat summary, March 8, 2023 – thanks to @ironprogrammer.

2. Announcements

WordPress 6.2 RC 2 landed on Tuesday, March 14, 2023! Please download and test, and remember that in the RCrelease candidate One of the final stages in the version release cycle, this version signals the potential to be a final release to the public. Also see alpha (beta). period:

  • It takes two committers to commit code to the 6.2 branchbranch A directory in Subversion. WordPress uses branches to store the latest development code for each major release (3.9, 4.0, etc.). Branches are then updated with code for any minor releases of that branch. Sometimes, a major version of WordPress and its minor versions are collectively referred to as a "branch", such as "the 4.0 branch".
  • The 6.3 branch is open for early tickets, proposals and more
  • There’s a hard string freeze on the 6.2 branch

Gutenberg 15.3 landed Monday, March 13, 2023.

GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ 15.4 is underway.

3. Highlighted posts

@annezazu tells how and why the Navigation section of the Site Editor is gone from 6.2 RC 2.

@audrasjb recaps A week in Core.

@webcommsat adds these new links relating to 6.2:

The 6.2 live product demo Q&A

The 6.2 Field Guide

More developer notes for 6.2

4. Other release-related topics

@johnbillion raised #57916, about 6.2 server-side performance regressions. @hellofromtonya noted the ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. is about assessing performance and will not generate any late commits to 6.2.

@francina pointed the group to a Slack discussion on debugging tools.

5. Tickets and components

@oglekler raised ticket #23348 as a way to encourage more people to start contributing. A lively discussion followed.

@audrasjb reminded about the Old Trac Ticket Triage sessions..

@howdy_mcgee raised three tickets for early 6.3: #24142, #37255, and #18408.

@costev highlighted that he, @ironprogrammer, and @afragen are working on an update to the WordPress BetaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. Tester pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party. that will add a section where users can report a bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. right in the interface.

6. Open floor

No other items were raised.

Next week’s dev chat will be March 22, 2023 at 20:00 UTC in the Core Slack channel. See you there!

Props to @francina for leading dev chat, to @webcommsat for the agenda preparation,
@marybaum for the summary, and @oglekler and @webcommsat for review.

#6-2, #dev-chat, #meeting, #summary

Abha Thakor 7:33 pm on March 16, 2023
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Abha Thakor 8:44 pm on March 14, 2023
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Dev Chat Agenda, Wednesday March 15, 2023

The next WordPress Developers Chat will on Wednesday, March 15 2023 at 20:00 UTC in the core channel of the Make WordPress Slack.

1. Welcome and housekeeping

Dev Chat summary, March 8, 2023 – thanks to @ironprogrammer

The meeting is scheduled facilitator will be @francina and @marybaum will draft the meeting summary.
If you would like to volunteer for the summary, add a comment to this ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. for @webcommsat.

2. Announcements

WordPress 6.2 Release Candidate 2 (March 14, 2023). The schedule release is now only two weeks away on March 28!

GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ 15.4 Release Candidaterelease candidate One of the final stages in the version release cycle, this version signals the potential to be a final release to the public. Also see alpha (beta). is scheduled.

What’s new in Gutenberg 15.3? (March 13, 2023) – posted by @richtabor. This version tightens up the site editing experience, adds a new “Time to Read” blockBlock Block is the abstract term used to describe units of markup that, composed together, form the content or layout of a webpage using the WordPress editor. The idea combines concepts of what in the past may have achieved with shortcodes, custom HTML, and embed discovery into a single consistent API and user experience., and some Duotone enhancements.

3. Highlighted posts

A Week in CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress., March 6-13, 2023 – thanks to @audrasjb

  • 48 commits
  • 62 contributors
  • 47 tickets created
  • 8 tickets reopened
  • 68 tickets closed

And welcome to the five new contributors from this week!

4. Releases

Useful information on the next major WordPress release 6.2:

New links/ key information this week:
– 6.2 live product demo Q&A – posted by @marybaum
– The 6.2 Field Guide and more Developer Notes for 6.2. 

WordPress 6.2 has branched.

Also check the #6-2-release-leads channel for the latest updates.

For information:

Any additional updates from the Release Squad will be shared in the meeting.

5. Request for help with tickets/ components/ blockers/

If you have a ticket or request to help, please add a comment to the agenda post. Please indicate if you will be attending the meeting live and be able to highlight the issue further if needed.

If you are unable to attend dev chat live, you can add further details of the issue you would like highlighted either in comments, or message Core Team reps @webcommsat and @hellofromtonya with the additional information to raise in this week’s meeting for you.

6. Open floor

Items for this agenda item and the previous one are welcome from across time zones. Please add suggestions in comments on this post. Thanks.

Props for agenda preparation @webcommsat, and review @hellofromtonya.

#6-2, #agenda, #dev-chat

Emily Clarke 5:03 pm on March 14, 2023
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Performance Chat Summary: 14 March 2023

Meeting agenda here and the full chat log is available beginning here on Slack.

Announcements

  • As agreed in last weeks chat, this week we are following the new agenda structure below that is more aligned with our 2023 roadmap
  • During each priority project update, we will aim to tagtag A directory in Subversion. WordPress uses tags to store a single snapshot of a version (3.6, 3.6.1, etc.), the common convention of tags in version control systems. (Not to be confused with post tags.) the individuals who contributed suggestions for that priority project in the 2023 roadmap, to get any updates on progress

Priority Projects

Server Response Time

Link to roadmap projects

Contributors: @joemcgill @spacedmonkey @aristath

Database Optimization

Link to roadmap projects

Contributors: @aristath @spacedmonkey @olliejones @rjasdfiii

  • @olliejones Work on the SQLite database integration continues. Lots of tiny details transliterating one irregular SQL grammar to another. Nothing big to report.

JavaScriptJavaScript JavaScript or JS is an object-oriented computer programming language commonly used to create interactive effects within web browsers. WordPress makes extensive use of JS for a better user experience. While PHP is executed on the server, JS executes within a user’s browser. https://www.javascript.com & CSSCSS Cascading Style Sheets.

Link to roadmap projects

Contributors: @mukesh27 @10upsimon @adamsilverstein

  • @10upsimon We’re making progress on some of the final implementation details related to handling inline scripts, and doing some internal testing and research into how other projects are already implementing async/defer to look for possible conflicts. We should have something to share in a couple of weeks. In the meantime, we’d appreciate any examples you have of projects that are manually adding async/defer, so we can check them against our approach.

Images

Link to roadmap projects

Contributors: @flixos90 @thekt12 @adamsilverstein @joemcgill

  • @flixos90 I have been researching remaining problems with lazy-loaded LCP images in WordPress sites in the last week, will continue to do so today. I’m using HTTPHTTP HTTP is an acronym for Hyper Text Transfer Protocol. HTTP is the underlying protocol used by the World Wide Web and this protocol defines how messages are formatted and transmitted, and what actions Web servers and browsers should take in response to various commands. Archive to identify the most common problems and look at specific sites for samples to dig further
  • @flixos90 Noting that the enhancements that will hopefully come out of this work will benefit the fetchpriority="high" work as well
  • @adamsilverstein quick update from me: at WordCampWordCamp WordCamps are casual, locally-organized conferences covering everything related to WordPress. They're one of the places where the WordPress community comes together to teach one another what they’ve learned throughout the year and share the joy. Learn more. Asia a few weeks ago, I ran an “image comparison game” where users picked from two images (generated in WordPress at different compression levels and in WebP or JPEG) trying to tell which one was closer to the original. we had around 50 “choices” registered which isn’t much, but in any case I’m planning to analyze that data this week and should have some sort of results to share next week.

Measurement

Link to roadmap projects

Contributors: @adamsilverstein @olliejones @joemcgill @mukesh27

  • @clarkeemily we did have ‘Automated performance testing has been committed to the WP coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. repo https://core.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/55459‘ highlighted last week
  • @joemcgill We’re successfully getting automated performance data on every commit to core now, which is a cool milestone. I expect that we’ll continue to improve those capabilitiescapability A capability is permission to perform one or more types of task. Checking if a user has a capability is performed by the current_user_can function. Each user of a WordPress site might have some permissions but not others, depending on their role. For example, users who have the Author role usually have permission to edit their own posts (the “edit_posts” capability), but not permission to edit other users’ posts (the “edit_others_posts” capability). over time, but this is a nice starting point.

Ecosystem Tools

Link to roadmap projects

Contributors: @joegrainger

  • @joegrainger We plan to complete the infrastructure for the PluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party. Checker by the end of next week. Once complete we will start to perform some initial testing and review the infrastructure before working on the additional checks. Progress can be seen on the GitHub repo here. Please feel free to take a look and leave any thoughts/ideas you may have in the repo.

Creating Standalone Plugins

Link to GitHub overview issue

Contributors: @flixos90 @mukesh27 @10upsimon

New Projects / Proposals

  • n/a

Open Floor

  • @spacedmonkey Can we talk about this – ‘Explore and assess 6.2 server-side performance regressions‘ https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/57916
    • @flixos90 Happy to answer any questions on the data I gathered
    • @spacedmonkey Doing some research, realpath seems to be taking up a lot of resources
    • @flixos90 Is the realpath() usage something that was introduced in 6.2?
    • @spacedmonkey No, but I think it has been made worse.
    • @joemcgill After thinking about the original issue some more, I’m wondering if what @flixos90 observed is mainly a side-effect of things being moved around in the application lifecycle, which means that there are more callbacks firing on init, but overall the total response time is still an improvement over 6.1.X.
    • @flixos90 The overall total response time for classic themes is now actually worse in 6.2 than 6.1
    • @joemcgill That’s not what I’m seeing in our automated tests though.
    • @spacedmonkey It might be related to this – https://github.com/WordPress/wordpress-develop/commit/6d0a691b84d411813378f1983a0a87bf78a1ccad
    • @flixos90 Yeah I also didn’t see that in my previous tests. However what I have consistently seen is init being slower than in 6.1
    • @flixos90 FWIW, the automated tests are running core trunk . The tests I have been conducting are using built ZIP releases of the Betas and RCs. Not sure how relevant that is, but it may make a difference
    • @joemcgill Even in the latest run, 6.2 seems like an improvement.
    • @flixos90 The ZIP files are in principle closer to the real world experience, that’s why I’ve been using them in addition to the development repository
    • @spacedmonkey my test runs Slack thread
    • @joemcgill Zips should be built from the build folder, which is what the automated tests are testing
    • @flixos90 request for @spacedmonkey or @joemcgill to run the comparison between 6.1.1 production ZIP and 6.2-RC1 ZIP on your machines? Just to validate, maybe something is off on my environment
    • @joemcgill Happy to double check using local profiling at the betaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. tester plugin later today.
    • @spacedmonkey I might try using Local envoirment and other tools and see if i can reproduce
    • @johnbillion Are all these tests using the theme unit testunit test Code written to test a small piece of code or functionality within a larger application. Everything from themes to WordPress core have a series of unit tests. Also see regression. data?
      • @spacedmonkey I use Fakerpress to make mock data
      • @joemcgill The automated tests are. Not sure about how others are testing.
    • @flixos90 Good call @johnbillion My own local performance testing I’ve done only with the regular WP content (“Hello world”), nothing added. I know that’s not representative of real-world experience, but @joemcgill and @spacedmonkey please try to use that too for specifically the attempt to validate what I’m seeing on my end
    • @joemcgill If other folks can do A/B comparisons of the total response time for WP 6.1.1 vs 6.2-RC1 and share data on that issue, it could certainly help.
    • @spacedmonkey Fakerpress is great for generating posts from multiple authors, adds comments, terms and users.
    • @flixos90 So to summarize, just to reproduce, I’m seeing the regression locally in this environment:
      • between 6.1.1 and 6.2-RC1
      • a site with LocalWP
      • using TT1 theme
      • using Performance Lab plugin for Server-Timing, with no modules enabled
      • no content on the site other than what a clean WP core install gives you
    • Also see this sheet for more details.
    • @johnbillion Are you able to test again with the theme unit test data Felix? That way we have a somewhat unified set of data that’s in use for the tests
    • @flixos90 I certainly can. That said though, we also would still need to validate why I see a regression with the default content, so I would appreciate if someone else could run that on their end
    • @spacedmonkey https://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Unit_Test
    • @flixos90 Last but not least, I want to highlight something here (which I tried to also call out on the ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker.): Regardless of whether WP 6.2 is faster than 6.1, init is slower than before for classic themes. That has surfaced in all performance benchmarks I have done up to date. So while we should validate the overall test results, we should look into what is going on in init and why it has become worse in 6.2
    • @flixos90 See https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LroIJoYz-O9CpfJzaiKYYMWJ7GbE5RZoW1rf1R4FqyA/edit#gid=0 for example. In my new data https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LroIJoYz-O9CpfJzaiKYYMWJ7GbE5RZoW1rf1R4FqyA/edit#gid=1935935734 this is just more pronounced (which again could be due to a problem on my setup that wasn’t there before). If you want to get those more detailed Server-Timing metrics in your local environment, you can use https://gist.github.com/felixarntz/63c05392dbf7d51cc7f8f4a424b1ff39 for example
    • @joemcgill Back to my initial comment. I am curious if this is a side effect of some things being refactored during this release which has caused more work to be done on the init callback that was previously happening elsewhere. It could be that it’s fine that we’re doing more work on init than we were before if the overall execution time is improved.
    • @flixos90 Potentially that’s the case, in which case the “regression” would be fine. But we need to validate that
    • @joemcgill I think it would be helpful to review what is hooked to init in 6.2 vs 6.1 and compare differences.
    • @flixos90 I did that in https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OCfHtty6__DZPkPeOrMTBJiPPH46Lwd1AdofvUA4bnE/edit#gid=879358988
    • @spacedmonkey register_block_type_from_metadata -> register_block_script_handle -> realpath. register_block_type_from_metadata Are hooked into init
    • @flixos90 So we need to check how those functions’ code changed
  • @johnbillion Briefly from me for a core issue related to performance: I’ve been working to remove use of the now-deprecated SQL_CALC_FOUND_ROWS in core, starting with its use in WP_Query. PR here: https://github.com/WordPress/wordpress-develop/pull/3863 which continues work from a couple older PRs. There are a few outstanding items to address, I might ask for some help from interested parties on the performance team if I can’t make much progress myself over the next few weeks. Apart from that, the more eyes the merrier on this change!
  • @flixos90 Last but not least: Next Monday is the release of the Performance Lab plugin 2.1.0, so we need to get a few PRs ready
  • @flixos90 I have been working on a fix for the object-cache.php compatibility issues which I’m about to open a PR for. Would be great to get some reviews today/tomorrow so we can include it in 2.1.0

Our next chat will be held on Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 16:00 UTC in the #core-performance channel in Slack.

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Birgit Pauli-Haack 3:42 pm on March 14, 2023
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Editor Chat Agenda: March 15, 2023

Facilitator and notetaker: @bph

This is the agenda for the weekly editor chat scheduled for Wednesday, March 15, 2023, 03:00 PM GMT+1. This meeting is held in the #core-editor channel in the Making WordPress SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/.

Editor chat summary: 8 March, 2023

Announcements

Key project updates:

Task Coordination.

Open Floor – extended edition.

If you cannot attend the meeting, you are encouraged to share anything relevant for the discussion:

  • If you have an update for the main site editing projects, please feel free to share as a comment or come prepared for the meeting itself.
  • If you have anything to share for the Task Coordination section, please leave it as a comment on this post.
  • If you have anything to propose for the agenda or other specific items related to those listed above, please leave a comment below.

Props to @paaljoachim for review

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Emily Clarke 10:28 am on March 14, 2023
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Performance Chat Agenda: 14 March 2023

Here is the agenda for this week’s performance team meeting scheduled for March 14, 2023 at 16:00 UTC.

  • Announcements
    • As agreed in last weeks chat, this week we are following the new agenda structure below that is more aligned with our 2023 roadmap
    • During each priority project update, we will aim to tagtag A directory in Subversion. WordPress uses tags to store a single snapshot of a version (3.6, 3.6.1, etc.), the common convention of tags in version control systems. (Not to be confused with post tags.) the individuals who contributed suggestions for that priority project in the 2023 roadmap, to get any updates on progress
  • Priority projects
  • Open floor

This meeting happens in the #core-performance channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Make WordPress Slack.

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