Editor chat Summary: 25 March, 2020

This post summarizes the weekly editor chat meeting agenda here. Held on Wednesday, 25th March 2020 held in Slack. Moderated by @get_dave.

WordPress 5.4 Upcoming Release

  • WP 5.4 RC 4 was released yesterday (Wednesday, 24th March)
  • WP 5.4 RC 4 adds the Editor packages (Trac: 49688)
    • The editor PR’s that were cherry-picked into 5.4 can be checked on PR: 21083
    • Remaining issues can be checked and triaged on this board

Monthly Plan & Weekly Priorities

  • Revisit March master plan
  • @youknowriad Progress is good
    • Global Styles: We’ve added CSS vars to multiple blocks and more coming
    • Full Site Editing (FSE): still some challenges (Context API) and we’re improving the Edit Site screen at the same time
    • Patterns: Thanks to @nrqsnchz we have a dozen patterns on the works and the UI is being iterated on
  • Check out some of the Overview issues here for a better outlook

Task Coordination.

  • @nosolosw will work on global styles for edit-siteand reviewing related PRs
  • @youknowriad worked on CSS var support for multiple blocks, Edit Site improvements and PR reviews
  • @isabel_brison worked on Navigation block and Triaging the a11y audit board
  • @Johnston Philip wants to help review things
  • @Jon Q has been working on adding more style controls to Blocks.
  • @karmatosed has been focusing on navigation, global styles and triage
  • @Bart Kalisz has been reviewing some Good first review PRs
  • @get_dave worked with @andraganescu to allow Navigation Blocks to be created from existing WP Menus: PR 18869
  • @michael-arestad works on multi-entity saving and navigation methods within the editor
  • @Brent Swisher will continue working on storybook stories

Open floor

  • @soean asked that we announce WPBlockTalk – a free, online event for all things block editor happening on April 2nd
  • @paaljoachim asked about a progress with the Reusable Block feature. Progress can be monitored here.
  • @paaljoachim also raised awareness on PR 18718 about refactoring cover background controls.
  • @paaljoachim asked if we have a “how to create a PR info area: in the Core Editor handbook. Closest match is here.

Post Meeting discussion

There has been some discussion post meeting between @matveb, Pablo Honey and @mapk about the limitations of designing more complex block patterns.

To sum up the way forward is to provide the best patterns we can which don’t don’t suffer from the lack of tools and when we run into limitations to distill them down to improvements on the blocks themselves.


JavaScript Chat Summary – March 24, 2020

Below is a summary of the discussion from this week’s JavaScript chat (agenda, Slack Transcript)

Have a topic for discussion for the next meeting? Leave a suggested edit on next week’s agenda.

Agenda: Date module dateI18n gmt parameter (added by @davilera)

Slack | Pull Request

This is a pull request that has been around for a while and David has addressed all the feedback given so it’s ready for merge.

Action: @iandunn pinged to verify the latest round of changes and that it tests good.

Agenda: Module naming and deprecations (added by @aduth)

Slack | Github and Comment including links to previous discussions

Topic concerns aligning naming conventions for wp globals on package exports.


  • Merge pull #18722 that documents how to use ServerSideRender from the wp.serverSideRender export. (Done)
  • Create an issue to track the broader effort of “fixing” the names for these globals. (Done)

News Roundup

This roundup contains a few links for Gutenberg and JavaScript related news curated (and commented on) by @nerrad

Other Random Stuff

#javascript, #meeting-notes

Editor chat summary: Wednesday, 4 March 2020

This post summarizes the weekly editor chat meeting on Wednesday, 4 March 2020, 14:00 UTC held in Slack.

WordPress 5.4 Upcoming Release

WordPress 5.4 RC 1 is out, more details can be checked on the release page.

The list of editor PR’s cherry picked can be checked on #20593 and #20613.

The team published all the block editor dev notes. In total, the team ended up publishing a total of 10 posts with block editor dev notes https://make.wordpress.org/core/2020/03/03/wordpress-5-4-field-guide/ covering 32 PR’s that needed a dev note.

@jorgefilipecosta gave a big thank you to everyone that helped the big effort on writting the editor dev notes.

@jorgefilipecosta ended the topic by sharing the following information:

For the next RC currently, we have three issues that should be fixed. Two of the issues have a PR that needs review. Another one does not have a PR yet. The status of these tasks can be checked on https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/projects/39

Weekly Priorities

The Post with the priorities for March is published.

@gziolo shared the following summary of the priorities:

  • Block Content Areas
  • Global Styles
  • Block Patterns
  • Tightening up

Task Coordination


@karmatosed referred that for Feedback from design just note in the core-editor channel or in GitHub.


Is experimenting with new iconography to explore the G2 iterations: https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/pull/20464.




  • Started development for the new block editor features API.
  • Code reviews, testing, etc.


Is continuing to work through the components and adding storybook stories to any that are missing: https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/17973#issuecomment-591093951

Referred that if anyone has experience with the story shot integration, he has some questions in the Disabled PR: https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/pull/20514.



Is experimenting with WebGL blocks right now and working around the constraints. Is trying to get people’s thoughts/opinions on a Gutenberg feature request he has related to rendering in the background and providing a single requestAnimationFrame render loop for multiple blocks https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/20483.

Open floor

Custom text color format

@paaljoachim brought to the discussion the fact that the text color may or may not be a main format.

@jorgefilipecosta clarified that the fact that the text color appears on the main formats when a color is selected and disappears from the main formats if no color is selected is not a bug. It was an implemented behavior to avoid too many main formats but at the same time give relevance to the format if color is chosen. We may discuss this behavior in an issue and it may make sense to change.

Fullscreen mode enabled by default

@paaljoachim raised the fact that now fullscreen mode is enabled by default, and referred he is very skeptical about this change as it can bring much confusion to users.

@gziolo referred that:

  • Fullscreen mode is a feature that already existed.
  • Customizer also uses fullscreen.
  • The feature will only affect new users as the current setting the users had is persisted in the local storage.
  • The feature is still being discussed and it may end up being reverted during the RC phase.

#block-editor, #chats, #core-editor, #gutenberg, #meeting, #meeting-notes

Editor chat summary: Wednesday, 26 February 2020

This post summarizes the latest weekly Editor meeting, held in the #core-editor Slack channel, on Wednesday, February 26, 2020, 14:00 UTC.

WordPress 5.4 Upcoming Release

Gutenberg 7.6.0

  • RC will be released on Monday.
  • The changelog can be checked on https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/releases/tag/v7.6.0-rc.1.
  • The FSE work evolved a lot, and Gutenberg 7.6 includes four new FSE blocks, besides many enhancements and fixes to the existing blocks and functionality.
  • Any help testing FSE work is much appreciated, enable FSE on your test/in development projects and share your feedback.
  • Enhancement to wp/env and wp-scripts to make the developer experience better.

Weekly Priorities

  • The first iteration of G2 (Block UI redesign) has been merged into master and will make it into Gutenberg 7.7.

Task Coordination

Note: Anyone reading this summary outside of the meeting, please drop a comment in the post summary, if you can/want to help with something.



  • Working on G2.
  • Starting a new project with @nrqsnchz about Block Patterns.
  • Help with G2 follow-ups.
  • Triaging old issues.



  • Followed up on items related to Social Icons.
  • Discussed block variations and patterns with @gzioloo.
  • Pitched in around dev notes for 5.4, and some reviews.
  • Exploring how to implement embeds as block variations.


  • Continuing work on lightening the block DOM and allowing blocks to render the entire block and inner block wrappers, hopefully making it easier to style block for block and theme authors. 



  • Paired with @azaozz to improve the build process for the editor’s JavaScript scripts in WordPress core.
  • A few bug fixes/enhancements for @wordpress/scripts and @wordpress/create-block packages.
  • Several reviews including SlotFill refactor.
  • Plan to work on the block features API proposed by @youknowriad.



  • Working on FSE and block templates from a user and theme creator perspective.


Open Floor

Capitalization in strings used in the editor

Encouraging component maintainers to get involved with the non-editor parts of Gutenberg

  • @noisysocks some discussion around how to encourage Widget component maintainers to get involved with the experimental Block Widgets functionality. There’s a lot of expertise there that the Core Editor team could use.
  • @youknowriad suggested inviting component maintainers to the core editor channel.

Query Blocks

  • @andraganescu some discussion around reusability of query block https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/pull/20106
  • @revgeorge It’s working, but I’m working with @epiqueras to figure out how to best structure it’s de-duplication feature, or possibly going ahead without de-duplication at launch. It’s behind the FSE flag in the branch because it needs the post blocks to display results
  • @itsjusteileen from a plugin perspective, I’d love to see it with de-dupe
  • @revgeorge I can show you how I plan to use it with a plugin use case. The current plan for deduplication is to provide a container block that uses hooks to provide a way for blocks to get a list of displayed posts and add to that list, the container would be aware of the order the blocks are in and what they’ve displayed.
  • @gziolo what’s the difference between Query block and Latest Posts block?
  • @youknowriad Query block doesn’t have a fixed output based on attributes, it uses InnerBlocks to render each “post”. So you could combine PostTitle, post content, PostExcerpt, Post* blocks as a template for each “Post” entry in the Query block.

Semantic HTML inside the Group block

#meeting-notes, #core-editor, #editor, #gutenberg

Release Model Working Group Chat Summary: February 19th, 2020

This is the Summary of the Release Model Working Group Chat in #core on Slack at 20:00 UTC!

Folks are welcome to check out the agenda and Slack archive for this week’s meeting. Here is a recap of the last meeting, as well.

Thank you to @mikeschroder for doing the peer review on this summary!

This week a kan ban project board was introduced with new GitHub issues created!

@noisysocks broke down some of the ‘development’ phase of the pre-release cycle into individual issues for each critical step. 

A few of the issues have been assigned to contributors and more volunteers are welcome! Workflow is being broken down amongst team members as follows:

@noisysocks mentioned that some conversations have already lead to ideas for recommendations!

Next Meeting

Meetings for the Working Group will take place on the first and third Wednesday of the month at Wednesday March 4, 2020 at 08:00 UTC and Wednesday March 4, 2020 at 20:00 UTC. Hope to see you there!

#meeting-notes, #release-process

Editor chat Summary: 5th February 2020

This post summarizes the weekly editor chat meeting agenda here. Held on Wednesday, 5th February 2020 held in Slack. Moderated by @andraganescu.

WordPress 5.4

Gutenberg is getting ready for the incoming WordPress 5.4 release. This board should be a good summary of the current WP 5.4 project. @youknowriad mentioned that the beta1 is due next Tuesday, and it means feature-freeze.

So all features that should go in WordPress 5.4 should land this week (3rd – 7th Feb 2020) or wait for WP 5.5.

Gutenberg 7.4

If all goes as expected, the stable release should be published a bit later today, 5th February 2020.

Amongst the new updates it will include, a few highlights:

  • added shippedProposals to babel-env options
  • Navigation block’s submenus now have a chevron display option
  • background colour support to the Columns block
  • over 25 bug fixes and more than 80 documentation and other various updates

Weekly Priorities

Our short term general priorities remain:

  • Landing the Gutenberg 7.4.0 release
  • Getting Gutenberg ready for the WP 5.4 release

The February, “What’s next in Gutenberg” post is up!

Task Coordination


I’ve continued the work initiated by @jorgefilipecosta and consolidated the overall Global Styles data proposal in this PR 20047 While waiting on reviews, I’m going to focus on putting together a PR to demonstrate how this data would be used client-side.


I’ve been working on a few things:
– Priorities post
– WP 5.4 patch (e2e testing)
– Continue my icons package refactoring
– Allow third-party keyboard shortcuts registration
I expect to continue on some of these (icons, WP 5.4) and maybe rework on the G2 branch and land it after WP 5.4 beta1


I’ve been focused largely on trying to land things in time for WordPress 5.4 beta. Right now mostly around: The new link editing UI, columns resizing improvements. I sort of hoped to get something with “sticky” preferences using user meta, but that one might slip, based on how the discussion around it is unsettled.


Working on the ability to create Pages within Nav Block, in PR 19775 


I have been working on:
– the PostAuthor block 19894 – this could use a review, and some design eyes cc: @mapk
– pushed with @jorgefilipecosta a fix for the rendering the Navigation block in core
– tinkered more with always-on URL showing in the MediaReplaceFlow component 19504 – a bit stuck on wether to use the LinkControl or move along with the older controls


I am deep in the global styles world with a side order of triage. Lots of interesting thoughts bouncing around: 19255 This week I am going to be exploring if we need more tools for global styles, interface beyond side and also try and create some things with the tools we are suggesting.


Also deep in Global styles work, alongside @karmatosed, @nosolosw, and @jorgefilipecosta
Mostly planning and coordinating. Also helping with Design x Dev explorations with @karmatosed on the UI


I’m focusing on the reimplementation of Social Links using the new Block Variations API (19887). Should be good to go.
Other focuses concern 5.4: little items needing core patches, etc. 


– Helping to wrangle PRs for WP 5.4
– Providing feedback on Columns block work
– Moved reusable blocks link to Block Manager


We keep working on Navigation improvements in general. One of the most important was the implementation of the new design of sub-menus:
19681. It makes the Navigation really better especially in terms of UI.

Also, we tried to consolidate the styles for both front-end and editor-canvas in a single file in order to make them as similar as possible. among other improvements.
Here is the navigation dashboard, just in case.

@tellthemachines – from the agenda comments

I have been working on a fix for a few columns styling issues, and aiming to make the columns block compatible with the above editor resizing functionality. The PR is 19297

Open Floor

First @aristath raised attention on 19993, which is an important addition to the Navigation block. Also he mentioned the meeting in #theme-review starting soo, agenda here.

We had a few things from the agenda comments for the open floor.

@paaljoachim highlighted pr 20015 about where to place the caption alignment button. Following a discussion between @mapk, @youknowriad, @epiqueras and @jeffreycarandang  more discussion will be held in the PR.

Also @paaljoachim highlighted pr 15102 and Trac ticket 49185 about optionally not embedding links to another WordPress site. Many people approved @mcsf ‘s suggestion to “combine the undo behaviour with a timely snackbar notice”.

@tellthemachines had three things for the open floor, from the agenda comments.

1st is that the resizable editor work in 19082 is now complete and in need of code review.

2nd was the new public facing API of adding CSS markers to define where to start and where to end media quert manipulation. @youknowriad asked if we should wait with this feature until WP 5.5 beta 1 and not launch it as part of WP 5.4.

Probably @tellthemachine ‘s offer to write documentation/blog post explaining how it works will draw even more attention and help deciding when to include the feature.

3rd is that there’s going to be a CSS meeting!

To discuss evolving standards, new tools and best practices join the CSS meeting on the 13th February, 9pm UTC. All details here.

The CSS meeting announcement had many positive reactions 🙌

On a final note, @jorgefilipecosta raised the new discussions happening around global styles and how those might affect they way we simulate styles and hence how the resizable editor works. @youknowriad suggested that he seeks @tellthemachine ‘s input on those global styles discussions.

<-- /meeting: 5 February 2020 -->

Final note

If you want something discussed during the next #core-editor meeting, on Wednesday, 12th February 2020, 2pm UTC do one of:

  • add it to this agenda document
  • or add a comment below
  • or comment on the meeting agenda post once it’s published.

Thank you and keep up the good work!

#gutenberg, #meeting-notes

Editor chat summary: Wednesday, 22 January 2020

This post summarizes the weekly editor chat meeting on Wednesday, 22 January 2020, 14:00 WET held in Slack.

Gutenberg 7.3

@gziolo announced that the Gutenberg 7.3 release was planned to happen later in the day and said, this release includes among others:

  • Multiple performance improvements.
  • A new block collections API. The API is useful when a developer wants to group the blocks in its section in the inserter.
  • Further improvements to the Navigation block.
  • New experimental blocks for the full site editing.

More details about this release are available on the release post.

Weekly Priorities

For this week, we keep the same priorities as last week:

  • Block Content Areas (Full site editing)
  • Block UI updates
  • Block Patterns
  • Navigation block improvements

Task Coordination


Has been mostly focusing on navigation block feedback/iterations and global styles – will continue to do this into next week.


Has been working on adding the background color feature to the navigation block, it is already merged.

Now is improving the sub-menus design, and polishing the feature.

It is possible to track the progress in the project dashboard.


Worked on resizable editor PR https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/pull/19082.

All the tests are now updated, and it’s ready for further review. There’s a bit of discussion on how to isolate the editor-specific styles for manipulation in the core, any feedback appreciated at this point!


Has been working on the icons package. Referred Icons are all over the place in Gutenberg right now, and thinks at least we should gather them in a single package. Said technology-wise, we still need to explore different options to how best ship them for authors, but a tree-shakeable npm package seems like the best initial path forward without BC concerns. @youknowriad will continue working on a solution to this problem.

@youknowriad is also working on an Extensibility API Proposal ( will share more very soon) and keeps doing heavy triage as time allows.


Is working on an attempt to have responsive backgrounds in blocks which have image backgrounds, and doing various tidying up PRs for the navigation block.

@getdave, @marek, and @jeryj

Are working on the navigation block.

@jeryj is improving the UX.

@getdave and @marek are working on the ability to Create Pages from within the Block on the fly. Relevant issue and PR:


@nosolosw is focusing back on the work on Gutenberg. Revived a lingering PR to fix a focus issue in the gallery block https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/pull/14930. The PR needs a technical review!


Since last week:

For the next week:

  • Help to have a “Global Styles” mechanism in the core.
  • Continue the work on Angle Picker and Gradient type picker for the custom gradients.
  • Focus on triage issues. Reviewing PR’s required for 5.4 beta 1.



  • Helping around improvements and consistency among various link components
  • Hoping to try to push user-meta-based preferences persistence (sticky preferences) over the finish line. @aduth referred it would be a nice feature for WP 5.4.
  • Would like to visit some project management automation at some point.


Is getting up to speed on Gutenberg development.

f you are also starting and are finding any challenge, please share it so that we can improve the experience for everyone.


Open floor

Template lock active at the post type level, and templateLock={ false } in InnerBlocks causes an invalid block warning

@chrisvanpatten brought up issue https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/11681 and asked if there are any options to move the issue forward as the issue is causing a frustrating experience. The ticket seems stalled without a clear path.

Currently, @chrisvanpatten  relies on dispatch('core/block-editor').setTemplateValidity(true); as workaround to the problem.

@youknowriad said the plan outlined in https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/11681#issuecomment-549641097 seems a sensible one. But the ticket is stalled because implementing that solution is a big-time investment.

@chopinbach volunteered to help address this problem, and @chrisvanpatten volunteered to team up. Thank you both!

FormTokenField: Make it possible to add children

@scruffian asked for feedback on https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/pull/19676.

@youknowriad said that while the change is minimal, it would be good to expand on the use-cases. @youknowriad referred that adding random children may not be the best path forward, and asked if there is another abstraction possible, or if the button is something that can be built-in.

@scruffian said @youknowriad ideas are valid, but his thought was that it would be more useful as it was proposed in the PR. @scruffian  is open to achieving the result differently.

Server-side context API

@chopinbach asked for the latest updates on server-side context API @epiqueras is working on.

@epiqueras said the API is similar to React context and that he needs a PR review.

@youknowriad and @mcsf referred that ideally, a block consumes from a “contextname”, not a “blockname” and different blocks can use the same context name to expose their context.

@epiqueras linked to a comment providing some reasons where the approach may have problems.

The conversation will continue on https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/19685. If you have any insights on this issue, please provide them as it may be valuable.

#chats, #core-editor, #editor-chat, #meeting, #meeting-notes, #summary

Javascript Chat Summary – January 7th, 2020

Below is a summary of the discussion from this week’s JavaScript chat (agenda, Slack Transcript)

Have a topic for discussion for the next meeting? Leave a suggested edit on next week’s agenda.

Agenda: WordCamp Asia Contributor Booth

Slack | WCAsia Request

WordCamp Asia team is asking if folks from the #core-js team will be coming to the contributor day. From those at this week’s meeting, the following indicated they will be there:

Some topics that were suggested as things to work on during this day:

  • TypeScript
  • Storybook
  • Unit tests
  • Automating project management

The contributor table will be co-lead by @adamsilverstein, @aduth, @gziolo , @epiqueras (in some way, split between the Gutenberg and core-js tables)

Open Floor: Prettier Update

Slack | Github

Question: Is the goal to eventually run prettier on our existing codebase?

Answer: Yes, the goal is to run Prettier on the whole Gutenberg codebase and keep it formatted.

Open Floor: Move Some Build Tests to Github Actions

Slack | Github

@netweb recently added a Github Action to the Gutenberg Examples repository for doing a npm run build and jest tests. @gziolo thought it’d be good to do something similar in the Gutenberg repo to free up Travis jobs and get better feedback.

Open Floor: Use CSS-JS more widely?


@itsjonq asked:

I would love to know if using Emotion (or some CSS-in-JS method) is a strategy folks are comfortable with.

comfortable enough for some refactors to happen with the primitive components.

Initial big convo on CSS-in-JS was discussed in this github pull.

There was some discussion in the meeting about this with points ranging from strong reservations against using CSS-in-JS, to it being a good fit for @wordpress/components.

While it’s not clear there was a definite decision at the meeting, there seemed to be some consensus around this final point made by @youknowriad:

My personal opinion is that I’m fine with it being explored if it’s only for @wordpress/components for now without impact on external API

#javascript, #meeting-notes

Javascript Chat Summary: Tuesday, December 17, 2019

Below is a of the discussion from this week’s JavaScript chat (agendaSlack Transcript)

Have a topic for discussion for the next meeting? Leave a suggested edit on the next chat agenda.

Next Javascript meeting is January 7th, 2020.

Because of a lot of people being AFK for their holidays we’ll skip the next two meetings.


@aduth introduce the topic by saying:

There’s been quite a bit happening this past week, both in the comments of the revisions proposal post, and in the original pull request.

Post: https://make.wordpress.org/core/2019/12/09/proposed-javascript-coding-standards-revisions-for-prettier-compatibility/

Pull request: https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/pull/18048 

I think we’re in a position to make a decision on how to proceed here. From the feedback to the post, there are some general thoughts around improvements to the standard, but not any reluctance to Prettier specifically (quite the opposite, in fact!)

It would seem to me that most people are on board with this. Does anyone have any last-minute thoughts on this, or would it be fair to say we can move forward with adopting Prettier?

Based on the comments of the PR and the conversation in the chat, it seems we are in a position to merge this work.

@jsnajdr referred that the PR adds a format-js script to wp-scripts, and provides support for IDE integrations. Well-behaving Prettier editor integrations should pick up the config and the fork binary automatically.

@mkaz proposed a PR that documents these changes at https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/pull/19074.

The conversation went on @jsnajdr noted that the PR does not yet format the code, but we can easily format it with `wp-scripts format-js`.

@gziolo showed availability to collaborate/discuss with @jsnajdr how format-js will operate after the PR is merged.

@gziolo noted that having prettier code formatting will alow inline snapshots on the test cases https://jestjs.io/docs/en/snapshot-testing#inline-snapshots.

@aduth proposed the following action items:

  1. Merge @jsnajdr‘s pull request.
  2. Review, merge @mkaz developer tools documentation.
  3. Submit standards revisions changes.

After @jsnajdr‘s pull request is merged:

  1. Create a pull request to apply formatting to the entire codebase
  2. Explore options for automated formatting.

Participants agreed on the plan.

Block Scaffolding

@gziolo shared the following GIF showing block Scaffolding working:

Block Scaffolding Tool

@gziolo managed to implement ESNext template support with wp-scripts integration and is wondering if this scaffolding mechanism should be part of the Gutenberg repository.

Participants started discussing if this solution is part of the Gutenberg repository, what will happen to the current “official” scaffolding solution offered in WP-CLI. There are technical restrictions in making something equivalent to the solution @gziolo proposed on WP-CLI because WP-CLI should not depend on node.

@gziolo will continue iterating on the new scaffolding solution and, once tested, will import it into Gutenberg.

SVGR support in wp-scripts

@mkaz started the topic by saying:

I have a PR that adds SVG support to it which is a handy addition, but not sure if we want to add it without having the same support in core Gutenberg: https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/pull/18243 

For core blocks, we don’t inline SVG, we always code them, so this mechanism would not be used by core blocks, but it may be helpful for third party block developers.

@gziolo said Parcel 2 is heading in the direction of supporting CSS and SVG imports. @aduth said Parcel faces a similar challenge, and it may be a useful reference of how to address this problem.

#core-js, #javascript, #meeting-notes

Editor chat summary: Wednesday, 18 December 2019

This post summarizes the latest weekly Editor meeting, held in the #core-editor Slack channel, on Wednesday, December 18, 2019, 14:00 UTC.

The agenda of the meeting is here.

Next core editor meeting is January 8th, 2020.

Because of a lot of people being AFK for their holidays we’ll skip the next two meetings and plan the next Gutenberg release (and #core-editor meeting) for January 8th, 2020.

Considering our consistent bi-weekly release schedule, there were 23 Gutenberg versions released in 2019.

Thanks to everyone who made this possible!

Task Coordination

Note: Anyone reading this summary outside of the meeting, please drop a comment in the post summary, if you can/want to help with something.


  • I migrated the MediaReplaceFlow to the video, audio, file and media+text blocks and the PRs are waiting for a review. They’re all pretty small code wise: 19198, 19174, 19162, 19158.


  • Triage continues and trying to ensure everything has a design review on PRs within short time.
  • Wrote v1 of triage team doc and it’s up on issue.
  • Spending sometime this week clearing down queues a bit and already finding I can close some, so nice to close!
  • Began working on navigation in wp-admin: working out boundaries for this.
  • Did some mobile web testing and logged some issues, continuing this.
  • Sentence case merged.
  • Quick fix for welcome guide.
  • Lots of design feedback and testing.


  • No new development happening from me this week but I do have this open PR for deprecating wordpress/nux that I’d love some eyes on: 18981


  • I’ve been working on a few PRs to improve API and consistency for the Button component
  • I’ve been working on a keyboard shortcuts package to ultimately allow editing shortcuts and registering third party ones
  • A few janitorial PRs


  • Been doing some fixups: – Fix ArrowUp/parent block selection: 19135
  • Fix IE11 Welcome Modal: 19201
  • Would still like to land removal of “shortcuts” (needs review): 19045
  • Starting to explore user preferences persistence (more “sticky” than browser storage): 19177

Hoping to hit on a few things in next days:

  • Better data reuse for REST API _fields (opens up new optimization possibilities)
  • docgen improvements (edited) 


  • Linking Media in Media + Text block is merged! 18139
  • Was hoping for some dev help on new Block Library categories: 11406
  • If the widgets screen is ready for testing, @jorgefilipecosta, I’d like to do some usability tests.
  • Usability testing the Nav block.


  • Been working on Raw handling, RichText, and slowly making progress with the toolbar in popover PR.


  • Been working on edit-site and new entity APIs. Also template part editing flows.


  • I have one small tweak left for adding background color support to the columns block. Refactored it to use the ‘useColors’ hook. Next I’ll do the same for the Column block on a separate PR 17813


  • I’ve been working on making the editing canvas resizable, PR in progress here: 1908
  • Branching off from that, I’m starting to look at how we might optimise default block styles with CSS variables without breaking things completely in IE.

Open Floor

There was a lot of discussion on improved revision control. The main point raised by @Carike was that by using branched revisions, with minor and major designations, users will be able to use block based themes more easily. @epiqueras offered that branching or minor/major revisions are too complicated and a better improvement to revisions si to have them support block level changes.

The general agreement was that we need better revisions performance and UX.

The discussion continues in Track ticket #48953.

A second discussion happened about adding pagination to the latest posts block. There was a heated debate on whether pagination is a stand-alone block or simply a feature of blocks that need pagination. @karmatosed argued that pagination is not an option that an user might think as requireing inserting a block. @epiqueras argued pagination should be a block and be developed in such a way that if it is used standalone it would default to paginating the default post loop in the page, while other blocks might opt to use it by default (e.g. the latest posts block).

The issue is still up for debate, UX and technical solution in the GH issue #13584.

On a final note, happy holidays for those who do that and happy new year!

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