Dev Chat Agenda for April 14, 2021

Here is the agenda for this week’s meetings to occur at the following times: April 14, 2021 at 5:00 UTC and April 14, 2021 at 20:00 UTC.

Release Announcements

Blogblog (versus network, site) Post Highlights

Blog posts that need feedback

Components check-in and status updates

  • Check-in with each component for status updates.
  • Poll for components that need assistance.

Open Floor

Do you have something to propose for the agenda, or a specific item relevant to our standard list above?

Please leave a comment, and say whether or not you’ll be in the chat, so the group can either give you the floor or bring up your topic for you, accordingly.

This meeting happens in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#agenda, #dev-chat

Dev Chat meeting Summary – April 7, 2021

This is the weekly meetings summary of the WordPress CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. team. The facilitator for this week’s chats was @peterwilsoncc at 05:00 UTC and @francina at 20:00 UTC. Here is the meeting agenda.

Link to 05:00 UTC devchat meeting on the core channel on Slack

Link to 20:00 UTC devchat meeting on the core channel on Slack

Announcements & News

Upcoming releases

WordPress 5.7.1

In line with the trial for consistent minor release leads for each major branch, all the 5.7.x point releases will be led by @peterwilsoncc, with @audrasjb as deputy.

Here is the expected 5.7.1 release schedule:

  • Release Candidaterelease candidate One of the final stages in the version release cycle, this version signals the potential to be a final release to the public. Also see alpha (beta).: Wednesday 7 April, 2021 around 23:00 UTC (released)
  • Final release: Wednesday 14 April, 2021 around 23:00 UTC

@audrasjb announced (and hosted) a new bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. scrub right after the devchat.

Note: At the time this meeting recap is published, WP 5.7.1 Release Candidate 1 is now available for testing.

WordPress 5.8

@francina shared some blogposts worth reading, where a new, experimental, release cycle is proposed, and the early bug scrubs schedule is now available.

Core related blogblog (versus network, site) posts

@annezazu shared that the current FSE call for testing is now open for feedback until April 12th rather than April 8th. Hopefully, this gives people an extra weekend to chime in and share their experience.

@chanthaboune pointed out that the first go/no go date for FSE in WP5.8 is next Tuesday.

@nalininonstopnewsuk shared that it is possible share FSE Call for Testing on social and FSE Call for Testing on LinkedIn.

@francina shared this blog post from the Marketing Team: Thoughts on Marketing, FSE, and What’s Next. It’s relevant to the current release, so please read and leave your feedback.

Component maintainers updates

Build/Test Tools (@sergeybiryukov): Work has continued on backporting recent build and test tool improvements to the older branches still receiving security updates. See ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. #52653 for more details. A post is also upcoming on make/core.

Date/Time, General, I18Ni18n Internationalization, or the act of writing and preparing code to be fully translatable into other languages. Also see localization. Often written with a lowercase i so it is not confused with a lowercase L or the numeral 1. Often an acquired skill., Permalinks (@sergeybiryukov): No major news this week.

Menus, Widgets, Upgrade/Install (@audrasjb): No major news this week.

Site Health (@clorith): The only ticket in milestone 5.7.1 was committed in time.

@francina also pointed out the ticket she opened in Meta Trac concerning Component maintainers updates. In the past month she also reached out to the majority of the components and removed inactive maintainers. Right now there are quite a lot of components without maintainers.

The attendees discussed about maintainers recruitment. If anyone is interested to help to maintain a component, @audrasjb pointed out that he would be happy to mentor/explain what he is doing on the few components he maintains. @francina proposed an online meeting/Q&A, like the casual online gatherings hosted by the community team.

Open floor

@paaljoachim asked what is the definition of what can and not not be included in a minor releaseMinor Release A set of releases or versions having the same minor version number may be collectively referred to as .x , for example version 5.2.x to refer to versions 5.2, 5.2.1, 5.2.3, and all other versions in the 5.2 (five dot two) branch of that software. Minor Releases often make improvements to existing features and functionality..

@jeffpaul quoted the Core team handbook: “A minor release is intended for bugfixes and enhancements that do not add new deployedDeploy Launching code from a local development environment to the production web server, so that it's available to visitors. files and are at the discretion of the release leadRelease Lead The community member ultimately responsible for the Release. with suggestions/input from component maintainers and committers.”

@sergeybiryukov added that generally, minor releases are addressing regressions introduced in the latest release and some follow-up changes to new features, with occasional fixes for bugs from other recent releases, and occasional enhancements that the release leads feel are necessary.

#5-7-1, #5-8, #core-auto-updates, #dev-chat, #summaries, #summary

Dev Chat Agenda for April 7, 2021

Here is the agenda for this week’s meetings to occur at the following times: April 7, 2021 at 5:00 UTC and April 7, 2021 at 20:00 UTC.

Announcements

Blogblog (versus network, site) Post Highlights

Blog posts that need feedback

Components check-in and status updates

  • Check-in with each component for status updates.
  • Poll for components that need assistance.

Open Floor

Do you have something to propose for the agenda, or a specific item relevant to our standard list above?

Please leave a comment, and say whether or not you’ll be in the chat, so the group can either give you the floor or bring up your topic for you, accordingly.

This meeting happens in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#agenda, #dev-chat

Dev Chat meeting Summary – March 31, 2021

This is the weekly meetings summary of the WordPress CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. team. The facilitator for this week’s chats was @markparnell at 05:00 UTC and @francina at 20:00 UTC. Here is the meeting agenda.

Link to 05:00 UTC devchat meeting on the core channel on Slack

Link to 20:00 UTC devchat meeting on the core channel on Slack

Announcements & News

Upcoming releases

WordPress 5.7.1

In line with the trial for consistent minor release leads for each major branch, all the 5.7.x point releases will be led by @peterwilsoncc, with @audrasjb as deputy.

Here is the expected 5.7.1 release schedule:

  • Release Candidaterelease candidate One of the final stages in the version release cycle, this version signals the potential to be a final release to the public. Also see alpha (beta).: Wednesday 7 April, 2021 around 23:00 UTC
  • Final release: Wednesday 14 April, 2021 around 23:00 UTC

There are 33 tickets in the milestone:

  • 10 are already closed as fixed
  • 3 are fixed and reopened for proper backportbackport A port is when code from one branch (or trunk) is merged into another branch or trunk. Some changes in WordPress point releases are the result of backporting code from trunk to the release branch.

@audrasjb announced a new bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. scrub right after the devchat, and will run another one on Tuesday April 6, 2021 at 20:00 UTC.

Note: At the time this meeting recap is published, there are now 31 tickets in the milestone. 12 are fixed, 4 are reopened. The ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. with the higher priority was fixed (#52822).

Please note that this WordPress 5.7 board is the one to watch for GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ updates that will need to land in this release.

WordPress 5.8

@francina shared some blogposts worth reading, where a new, experimental, release cycle is proposed, and the early bug scrubs schedule is now available.

Core related blogblog (versus network, site) posts

Some thoughts were shared about the last item (Add a testing template to TracTrac An open source project by Edgewall Software that serves as a bug tracker and project management tool for WordPress.). People are invited to comment in the blog post.

@francina suggested to follow make.wordpress.org/updates as this blog has updates from Make teams + project leadership.

Component maintainers updates

Build/Test Tools (@sergeybiryukov): Work has continued on backporting recent build and test tool improvements to the older branches still receiving security updates. See ticket #52653 for more details.

Date/Time (@sergeybiryukov): No major news this week.

General (@sergeybiryukov): No major news this week.

Internationalization (@sergeybiryukov): No major news this week.

Permalinks (@sergeybiryukov): No major news this week.

Menus (@audrasjb): JB did some Triagetriage The act of evaluating and sorting bug reports, in order to decide priority, severity, and other factors. last week.

Widgets (@audrasjb): no major news this week.

Upgrade/Install (@audrasjb / @afragen): The team is still looking for feedback concerning the feature plugin. @francina asked if it would be useful to organize a test scrub. I would be a nice idea, and @afragen answered there’s a simple way to force the rollback for testing. The Upgrade/Install team will discuss this during the next #core-auto-updates weekly meeting on Tuesday April 6, 2021 at 18:00 UTC.

Toolbar (@sabernhardt): no triage planned this week, but @sabernhardt will probably will have another session in a few weeks.

Open floor

@chanthaboune noted that there are listening hours next week with her and Matt.

@annezazu dropped in a call out to help with the latest call for testing for the Full Site Editing Outreach Experiment: FSE Program Testing 4 – Building a restaurant themed header.

@chanthaboune shared that the recent Slack outage caused some additional things to break, so if folks see things that usually work but aren’t now, please feel free to let her know.

#5-7-1, #5-8, #dev-chat, #summaries, #summary

Dev Chat Agenda for March 31, 2021

Here is the agenda for this week’s meetings to occur at the following times: March 31, 2021 at 5:00 UTC and March 31, 2021 at 20:00 UTC.

Announcements

Blogblog (versus network, site) Post Highlights

Blog posts that need feedback

Components check-in and status updates

  • Check-in with each component for status updates.
  • Poll for components that need assistance.

Open Floor

Do you have something to propose for the agenda, or a specific item relevant to our standard list above?

Please leave a comment, and say whether or not you’ll be in the chat, so the group can either give you the floor or bring up your topic for you, accordingly.

This meeting happens in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#agenda, #dev-chat

Dev Chat meeting Summary – March 24, 2021

This is the weekly meetings summary of the WordPress CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. team. The facilitator for this week’s chats was @peterwilsoncc at 05:00 UTC and @audrasjb at 20:00 UTC. Here is the meeting agenda.

Link to 05:00 UTC devchat meeting on the core channel on Slack

Link to 20:00 UTC devchat meeting on the core channel on Slack

Announcements & News

There is also a couple items on the Make/Core blogblog (versus network, site) that require feedback:

Upcoming WordPress Releases

WordPress 5.7.1

In line with the trial for consistent minor release leads for each major branch, all the 5.7.x point releases will be led by @peterwilsoncc, with @audrasjb as deputy.

Here is the expected 5.7.1 release schedule:

  • Release Candidaterelease candidate One of the final stages in the version release cycle, this version signals the potential to be a final release to the public. Also see alpha (beta).: Wednesday 7 April, 2021 around 23:00 UTC
  • Final release: Wednesday 14 April, 2021 around 23:00 UTC

For now, there are 26 tickets in the milestone.
11 of them are closed as fixed, or reopened for backportbackport A port is when code from one branch (or trunk) is merged into another branch or trunk. Some changes in WordPress point releases are the result of backporting code from trunk to the release branch. operations.

@audrasjb plan to run a 5.7.1 bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. scrub on Thursday March 25, 2021 at 22:00 UTC. Everyone is welcome to attend.

Please note that this WordPress 5.7 board is the one to watch for GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ updates that will need to land in this release.

WordPress 5.8

@chanthaboune shared some news about WordPress 5.8: @francina started to compile the planning round up and will publish it soon. @lukecarbis, @boniu91 and @hellofromtonya also compiled an early 5.8 bug scrub schedule, and published it right after the devchat.

Component maintainers updates

General (@sergeybiryukov): Work has continued on further fixing jQuery deprecations in WordPress core. See ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. #51812 for more details.

I18Ni18n Internationalization, or the act of writing and preparing code to be fully translatable into other languages. Also see localization. Often written with a lowercase i so it is not confused with a lowercase L or the numeral 1. Often an acquired skill. (@sergeybiryukov): The list of translations for selecting a timezone in General Settings was updated to add two new timezones and remove some older duplicates. See ticket #52861 for more details.

Build/Test Tools (@sergeybiryukov): no major news this week.

Date/Time (@sergeybiryukov): no major news this week.

Permalinks (@sergeybiryukov): no major news this week.

Themes (@williampatton): the component has had quite a lot of eyes recently but extra help would be appreciated.

Site Health (@clorith): the component has one ticket for 5.7.1, it’s got a proposed solution and feedback. Everyone is welcome to contribute.

Upgrade/Install (@audrasjb): no major news this week.

Menus / Widgets: @audrasjb started to silently scrub both of their awaiting review tickets, in order to prepare 5.8 effort.

Toolbar (@sabernhardt): there is a Toolbar component triagetriage The act of evaluating and sorting bug reports, in order to decide priority, severity, and other factors. scheduled on Thursday March 25, 2021 at 15:00 UTC. Also, the Core team nominated @sabernhardt as Toolbar component maintainer and he accepted.

Open floor

@isabel_brison requested some feedback on an overview ticket for adding end-to-end tests to WordPress Core.
The ticket contains suggestions for how to test most of the pages in the WordPress dashboard but requested some feedback on how to, or whether to, test certain pages.

@francina provided a document produced by her colleagues at Yoast recently. These are now available on the ticket.​

@clorith started a discussion on more frequently merging updates from the Gutenberg pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party in to Core. Highlighting that this would make testing future releases of WordPress features easier without keeping track of which features will remain in the plugin for the time being. There was general support for the idea.​ @chanthaboune is offered her help to move this forward.

@estelaris requested assistance for the Docs team in reviewing end user documentation. Particularly some of the more technical details. Anyone wishing to offer assistance can get in touch via the #docs channel in SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. or by messaging @estelaris directly.​

@peterwilsoncc requested some highlighted the workflow report for the 5.7.1 release due in April. For contributors wishing to write code and see it released quickly, Peter recommend they review tickets on the “needs patchpatch A special text file that describes changes to code, by identifying the files and lines which are added, removed, and altered. It may also be referred to as a diff. A patch can be applied to a codebase for testing.” section of the report. Contributors wishing to test or review suggested code can review tickets on the “has patch/needs testing” section of the report.

@webcommsat requested people share two items with the marketing team via shared documents:

Thanks @peterwilsoncc for his help to compile the meetings notes.

#5-7-1, #5-8, #dev-chat, #summaries, #summary

Dev Chat Agenda for March 24, 2021

Here is the agenda for this week’s meetings to occur at the following times: March 24, 2021 at 5:00 UTC and March 24, 2021 at 20:00 UTC.

Announcements

Blogblog (versus network, site) Post Highlights

Blog posts that need feedback

Components check-in and status updates

  • Check-in with each component for status updates.
  • Poll for components that need assistance.

Open Floor

Do you have something to propose for the agenda, or a specific item relevant to our standard list above?

Please leave a comment, and say whether or not you’ll be in the chat, so the group can either give you the floor or bring up your topic for you, accordingly.

This meeting happens in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#agenda, #dev-chat

Dev chat summary: March 17, 2021

@francina led the chat on this agenda.

Announcements

The big news: WordPress 5.7 “Esperanza” landed March 9, and the group took a well-deserved bow.

Moving on, Francesca highlighted these posts:

@jeffpaul noted Trial run: Consistent minor release squad leaders for each major branch. Francesca added that the post is both a highlight and a call for volunteers.

@annezazu put out a last call for FSE Program Testing Call #3: Create a fun & custom 404 page. If you’d like to catch up on the previous two FSE tests, Anne and Francesca said you can find previous calls under this tag. If you’d like to do your own testing, the FSE Handbook has a page with instructions. Capping off the FSE discussion was Marketing Team repTeam Rep A Team Rep is a person who represents the Make WordPress team to the rest of the project, make sure issues are raised and addressed as needed, and coordinates cross-team efforts. @webcommsat, who said you can also share this LinkedIn promotion.

@francina then turned to posts that need feedback. This Proposal: A WordPress Project Contributor Handbook drew spirited emoji support from the group. Francesca also reminded the group to sign up for the Updates blog to keep up with a variety of team updates, as well as posts from @chanthaboune about cross-team efforts and the latest news from leadership.

Components check-in and status updates

@sergeybiryukov started with jQuery news: the version in trunktrunk A directory in Subversion containing the latest development code in preparation for the next major release cycle. If you are running "trunk", then you are on the latest revision. has updated to 3.6.0, which is mostly bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. fixes and improvements. Two callouts:

Aside from the change to no longer ensure XHTML-compliant tags for you, we do not expect other compatibility issues when upgrading from a jQuery 3.0+ version.

See ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. #52707 for more details.

 jQuery hoverIntent library has updated from version 1.8.3 to 1.10.1. The changes all appear to be minor.

See ticket #52686 for more details.

@adamsilverstein checked in with Media news: he’s working on landing support for WebP images in 5.8 and would like testing and feedback on ticket #35725.

Up next, @audrasjb said he has nothing new for Menus and WidgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user., but he’s quietly scrubbing bugs and watching tickets. On Upgrade/Install, he highlighted this feature plugin proposal post.

@sabernhardt wrapped up the Component updates with his announcement of a Toolbar triagetriage The act of evaluating and sorting bug reports, in order to decide priority, severity, and other factors./bug scrub for the following day, March 18, at 16:00 UTC.

Open floor

IE11 support

@adamsilverstein asked: Given that the Project has decided to drop support for IE 11, have we discussed a specific release to make that change in?

The discussion that followed outlined a general process—notify, then act—but pointed out the group still needs to make a specific plan for IE11. Adam noted that IE11 is the only major browser that doesn’t support WebP images.

@desrosj said there might already be a notification in place. @adamsilverstein found a ticket, #48743, to that effect. Further discussion also made it clear that the team needs to do more to announce the change, including stronger language in relevant tickets (@desrosj and @audrasjb), a News blogblog (versus network, site) post (h/t: @jorbin) and relevant Handbook updates (h/t @jeffpaul)

“Try FSE?”

@sergeybiryukov observed:

It seems that most of WP users (outside of the contributing teams) are still largely unaware that full-site editing is coming later this year.

Perhaps that’s intentional, but once we have something stable to test, have we considered adding a dashboard widget to one of the upcoming minor releases, to invite more users to test FSE before final release, like we did with GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ in #41316 for WP 4.9.8?

See the full discussion that followed, with a variety of people sharing a variety of views on the subject.

#core, #dev-chat, #meetings, #summaries, #summary

Dev Chat Agenda for March 17, 2021

Here is the agenda for this week’s meetings to occur at the following times: March 17, 2021 at 5:00 UTC and March 17, 2021 at 20:00 UTC.

Announcements

  • Last week WordPress 5.7 “Esperanza” was release, in case you missed it

Blogblog (versus network, site) Post Highlights

Blog posts that need feedback

Components check-in and status updates

  • Check-in with each component for status updates.
  • Poll for components that need assistance.

Open Floor

Do you have something to propose for the agenda, or a specific item relevant to our standard list above?

Please leave a comment, and say whether or not you’ll be in the chat, so the group can either give you the floor or bring up your topic for you, accordingly.

This meeting happens in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#agenda, #dev-chat

Dev Chat Agenda for March 10, 2021

Here is the agenda for this week’s meetings to occur at the following times: March 10, 2021 at 5:00 UTC and March 10, 2021 at 20:00 UTC.

Announcements

Field GuideField guide The field guide is a type of blogpost published on Make/Core during the release candidate phase of the WordPress release cycle. The field guide generally lists all the dev notes published during the beta cycle. This guide is linked in the about page of the corresponding version of WordPress, in the release post and in the HelpHub version page.

In case you missed it, through the Field Guide for a full breakdown of everything you need to know about WordPress 5.7.

Blogblog (versus network, site) Post Highlights

Blog posts that need feedback

Components check-in and status updates

  • Check-in with each component for status updates.
  • Poll for components that need assistance.

Open Floor

Do you have something to propose for the agenda, or a specific item relevant to our standard list above?

Please leave a comment, and say whether or not you’ll be in the chat, so the group can either give you the floor or bring up your topic for you, accordingly.

This meeting happens in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#5-7, #agenda, #dev-chat