Summary, Dev Chat, April 17, 2024

Start of the meeting in SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/., facilitated by @joemcgill.

Announcements

The WordPress 6.5 retrospective post has been published, please fill in the survey if you would like to leave feedback or suggestions for improvements to the release process.

Forthcoming Releases

Next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope.: 6.6

We are currently in the WordPress 6.6 release cycle. The deadline for leaving feedback on this Planning Proposal post has ended, and we expect a release squad to be announced soon. Please leave a comment if you have any updates to share about this.

Next maintenance release: 6.5.3

WordPress 6.5.3 will be the next maintenance release. @jorbin published this post outlining the schedule.

@jorbin shared:

Work on WordPress 6.5.3 is progressing. The target for release is 7 May and there are bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. scrubs happening twice a week.

Of the tickets I’ve reviewed so far, https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/60992 feels like the highest priority. It has a patchpatch A special text file that describes changes to code, by identifying the files and lines which are added, removed, and altered. It may also be referred to as a diff. A patch can be applied to a codebase for testing. on it that could use some extra testing.

For the full schedule of scrubs or if you aren’t a bug gardener and want to suggest a ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. for the milestone, see
https://make.wordpress.org/core/2024/04/15/wordpress-6-5-3-an-upcoming-maintenance-release/

As with all minor releases, any and all help is appreciated.

Slack reference

@afragen confirmed that the expected behaviour of the patch for #60992 is: The patch for 60992 allows the redirect after the Activate button on the pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party card in plugin-install.php. There continues to be no redirect for the Activate button in any modal, ie “More Details” or “View details” modals.

@costdev confirmed that they’re confident we can land the resolution for 6.5.3.

Next GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ release: 18.2

Gutenberg 18.2 is scheduled for April 24 and will include these issues.

Discussion

There were several proposed discussion topics for today:

  • How can we get PHP8 support completed and out of “compatible with exceptions”: suggested by @jorbin
  • Aligning the coding standards for CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. and Gutenberg so that both can use the same tooling: also suggested by @jorbin
  • Revisit syncing editor packages early and throughout the release cycle: suggested by @jeffpaul

How can we get PHP8 support completed and out of “compatible with exceptions”

On the first topic, @jorbin noted that: PHP8 support feels to me like one of those things that is kind of stagnent and I would love to see some movement towards full and complete support for all PHP8 versions. I wanted to bring it up as a topic to see if others agree or if people think the current core stance is good.

There is not currently an active effort to reach full support for PHP8.

@jeffpaul noted that: PHP Compatibility and WordPress Versions handbook page that shows PHP8 support (betaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. support, compatible with exceptions).

@oglekler mentioned that: I am mostly working with 7.4 and from times to times have surprises like this: #46338.

There are 42.5% of WordPress sites using PHP8+ according to https://wordpress.org/about/stats/.

@ironprogrammer mentioned this related proposal: Proposal: Criteria for Removing “Beta Support” from Each PHP 8+ Version.

@joemcgill suggested this may be a conversation that needs to start in #core-php to see if there is already an active effort in place to continue making progress, and if not, try to kickstart the process.

@jorbin noted that the outline the criteria and process for reviewing each "beta support" PHP version with each WordPress major release  item is what is needed to get completed to move this forward. And then clearing out the php-compatability focus.

@joemcgill added that it seems like one of the biggest risks currently is that WP continues to show only beta support for supported PHPPHP The web scripting language in which WordPress is primarily architected. WordPress requires PHP 5.6.20 or higher versions once 8.4 is released later this year, so it would be nice to make progress on this.

@costdev highlighted that this effort should be led by a sponsored contributor, due to the amount of work involved. @jorbin mentioned that if there is a host who wants to sponsor this, please get in touch via a DM or a comment on this post.

Aligning the coding standards for Core and Gutenberg so that both can use the same tooling

@jorbin kicked off this topic with:

This is inspired by two things:

  1. The lack of prettier / mismatched tooling for JSJS JavaScript, a web scripting language typically executed in the browser. Often used for advanced user interfaces and behaviors. between the two repos
  2. The conversation/PR a few months back to remove the WordPress-Docs ruleset from Gutenberg

It’s also something I was just raising for visibility.

Slack reference

@joemcgill noted that: As I recall, this has been mentioned as one of the main challenges to more frequent syncing of GB packages to Core, as well. (e.g., https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/discussions/59786#discussioncomment-8784550)

It looks like @get_dave was planning on writing a Make Core post following the above discussion on GitHubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/. In that discussion, @antonvlasenko summarised two issues relating to the PHP side:

  1. Developing the missing linters to enforce WordPress Core standards.
  2. Fixing an issue with synchronizing the rulesets between Gutenberg and WordPress to ensure a unified set of linters.

@jorbin mentioned that for the JS side, there likely is going to need to be a mass reformatting commit or two (if it’s similar to the experience from when jshint was first put into place).

Highlighted posts

The full list of posts from the last week in Core can be read on the agenda at this link.

Open floor

@presskopp mentioned: From time to time I like to remind ourselves of the following, never giving up hope to be heard https://wordpress.slack.com/archives/C02RQBWTW/p1627500098438000

@afragen mentioned: Just an FYI. We are working on the merge proposal for Rollback Auto-Update and would like to put it on the agenda for next week.

Props to @joemcgill for reviewing.

#6-6, #dev-chat, #summary

Agenda, Dev Chat, Wednesday April 17, 2024

The next WordPress Developers Chat will take place on  Wednesday April 17, 2024 at 20:00 UTC in the core channel on Make WordPress Slack.

The live meeting will focus on the discussion for upcoming releases, and have an open floor section.

Additional items will be referred to in the various curated agenda sections, as below. If you have ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. requests for help, please do continue to post details in the comments section at the end of this agenda.

Announcements

The WordPress 6.5 retrospective post has been published, please fill in the survey if you would like to leave feedback or suggestions for improvements to the release process.

Forthcoming releases

Next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope.: 6.6

We are currently in the WordPress 6.6 release cycle.

Next maintenance release: 6.5.3

There are currently 15 open tickets in the 6.5.3 release milestone. There is more information about this release in this post, including the bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. scrub schedule and how you can get involved.

Next GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ release: 18.2

Gutenberg 18.2 is scheduled for April 24 and will include these issues.

Discussions

As there are no immediate 6.6 discussion points and the 6.6 release squad has not yet been finalized, we can discuss some previously suggested topics:

  • How can we get PHP8 support completed and out of “compatible with exceptions”: suggested by @jorbin
  • Aligning the coding standards for CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. and Gutenberg so that both can use the same tooling: also suggested by @jorbin

Feel free to suggest additional topics in the comments.

Highlighted posts

Core Editor Updates

Props to @annezazu for helping put together these updates.

Tickets for assistance

Tickets for 6.6 will be prioritized.

Please include detail of tickets / PR and the links into comments, and if you intend to be available during the meeting if there are any questions or will be async.

Open floor

Items for this can be shared in the comments.

Props to @joemcgill for reviewing.

#agenda, #core, #dev-chat

Summary, Dev Chat, April 10, 2024

Start of the meeting in SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/., facilitated by @mikachan.

Announcements

WordPress 6.5.2 Maintenance and Security Release was released on Tuesday, April 9. WordPress version 6.5.1 could not be released due to a packaging error.

Forthcoming Releases

Next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope.: 6.6

We are officially in the WordPress 6.6 release cycle.

@priethor published this WordPress 6.6 Planning Proposal & Call for Volunteers post recently, and is currently collecting the names of squad and cohort volunteers to share with leadership.

@jeffpaul commented that “at least finalizing the CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. & Editor tech leads and an RCrelease candidate One of the final stages in the version release cycle, this version signals the potential to be a final release to the public. Also see alpha (beta). would go a long way towards formally kicking off.”

@jorbin said, “I’ve also seen a couple questions about default themes and getting that kicked off during this release, I think getting an answer there would be helpful”

@joemcgill asked, “…what the focuses of this release would be. @chanthaboune originally proposed that 6.6 be held as a maintenance and polish release in this post, but I’m unsure if that’s still the plan.” And later, “To be clear, I’m not necessarily advocating for 6.6 to be mainly a polish release, I just see the need to be intentional in release planning if we want to actually execute that objective.”

Next maintenance release: 6.5.3

There are currently 13 open tickets in the 6.5.3 release milestone.

Later in the meeting @jorbin shared an initial proposed schedule for 6.5.3.

The first minor releaseMinor Release A set of releases or versions having the same minor version number may be collectively referred to as .x , for example version 5.2.x to refer to versions 5.2, 5.2.1, 5.2.3, and all other versions in the 5.2 (five dot two) branch of that software. Minor Releases often make improvements to existing features and functionality. for 6.5 is out, though it was a quick turnaround security release. For a proper minor release, I would like to gather thoughts on the following plan:

  1. @grantmkin has volunteered to help on the editor side (Thank you!)
  2. I would like to suggest a target of 7 May for 6.5.3 with an RC on 2 May. This will allow for about 4 weeks to identify and fix any bugs. I think Tuesday’s have served us fairly well.
  3. To assist in this, I would like to start bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. scrubs. I’m thinking twice weekly with one focused on tracTrac An open source project by Edgewall Software that serves as a bug tracker and project management tool for WordPress. and one on githubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/ until we get closer to the release with the last few looking at both bug trackers
Slack reference

Next GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ release: 18.2

Gutenberg 18.1 was released on April 10 and included these issues. 18.2 is scheduled for April 24 and will include these issues.

Discussion

During discussion we checked in on the progress that the 6.5 release coordinators are making on organizing a release retro post (see this thread). @marybaum confirmed that @priethor, @marybaum, and @akshayar are working on this and will update the #6-5-release-leads channel soon.

It was confirmed that retros have been a part of our release process for several previous releases. Many of them can be found by lookin at the retrospective tagtag A directory in Subversion. WordPress uses tags to store a single snapshot of a version (3.6, 3.6.1, etc.), the common convention of tags in version control systems. (Not to be confused with post tags.) on this site.

Highlighted posts

The full list of posts from the last week in Core can be read on the agenda at this link.

Open floor

Tony Gravagno proposed that retrospectives could be used for marketing. “People need an occasional reminder and reinforcement that their platform of choice is aggressively maintained, despite occasional press about pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party vulnerabilities … which is all most people see about WP.” He then suggested that this might be better discussed in the #marketing channel.

Damon Cook shared that he has recently added details to the Project Updates and Details area in key Gutenberg GitHub Project boards (example: WordPress 6.6 Editor Tasks). Damon is planning on trying to keep those up to date throughout the cycle.

Screenshot of the status updates screen from GitHub project boards.


This prompted @jeffpaul to ask whether these updates could be provided on make/core to capture a broader audience.

“My lens is for someone who’s not in lots of GitHub issues, PRs, or boards and finds it hard to stay current on what’s transpiring there and thus not as able to contribute without that context.  Trying to find ways to bring some of that scattered context back to make/core for broader consumption and contextual understanding.”

Damon was open to experimenting on how to best cross-share info in both places. “…for now, I just wanted to make folks aware that I’ve started utilizing the feature and can even deactivate or remove it if it is confusing.”

The full conversation about these status updates starts here.

@dmsnell wanted to remind folks about his proposal to remove support for HTML4 and XHTML. “Doing this is mostly ceremonial, since those formats aren’t supported in reality. Removing them officially though gives us liberty to modernize existing code and improve WordPress’ HTMLHTML HyperText Markup Language. The semantic scripting language primarily used for outputting content in web browsers.-handling reliability. More info in the linked ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker.#59883“.

Props to @mikachan for reviewing.

#6-6, #core, #dev-chat, #summary

Agenda, Dev Chat, Wednesday April 10, 2024

The next WordPress Developers Chat will take place on  Wednesday April 10, 2024 at 20:00 UTC in the core channel on Make WordPress Slack.

The live meeting will focus on the discussion for upcoming releases, and have an open floor section.

Additional items will be referred to in the various curated agenda sections, as below. If you have ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. requests for help, please do continue to post details in the comments section at the end of this agenda.

Announcements

WordPress 6.5.2 Maintenance and Security Release was released on Tuesday, April 9. WordPress version 6.5.1 could not be released due to a packaging error.

Forthcoming releases

Next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope.: 6.6

We are officially in the WordPress 6.6 release cycle.

Next maintenance release: 6.5.3

There are currently 13 open tickets in the 6.5.3 release milestone.

Next GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ release: 18.2

Gutenberg 18.1 was released on April 10 and included these issues. 18.2 is scheduled for April 24 and will include these issues.

Discussions

We will plan on following up on formalizing a release team for 6.6 and check in on the progress that the 6.5 release coordinators are making on organizing a release retro post (see this thread).

Feel free to suggest additional topics related to this release in the comments.

Highlighted posts

CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. Editor Updates

Props to @annezazu for putting together these updates.

Tickets for assistance

Tickets for 6.6 will be prioritized.

Please include detail of tickets / PR and the links into comments, and if you intend to be available during the meeting if there are any questions or will be async.

Open floor

Items for this can be shared in the comments.

Props to @mikachan for reviewing.

#agenda, #core, #dev-chat

Summary, Dev Chat, April 3, 2024

Start of the meeting in SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/., facilitated by @joemcgill.

Announcements

WordPress 6.5 “Regina” was released yesterday! Thank you to everyone who worked on, tested, and supported this release 🎉

Forthcoming Releases

Next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope.: 6.6

We are officially in the WordPress 6.6 release cycle. @priethor published this WordPress 6.6 Planning Proposal & Call for Volunteers post last week. Please take note of the following callouts on that post:

  • Please leave your feedback about the schedule and release squad size in the comments by April 7th.
  • If you are interested in participating in WordPress 6.6’s release squad as a lead or as a cohort, please show interest in the comments, specifying the role and the type of involvement (lead/cohort).

@colorful-tones and @fabiankaegy will be covering and merging TracTrac An open source project by Edgewall Software that serves as a bug tracker and project management tool for WordPress./GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ Triagetriage The act of evaluating and sorting bug reports, in order to decide priority, severity, and other factors. for 6.6, and if anyone has any recommendations to streamline things for overall Triage to make lives easier, then please reach out to them.

For 6.6, we discussed considering not having a sticky post for the bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. scrub schedule and instead ensuring the schedule is linked at the top of the main release page.

We also discussed 6.5.1, and noted that @jorbin published a post: Initial Bug Scrub for 6.5.1 for tomorrow. @fabiankaegy mentioned that the editor team have created this new board in GitHub to track any editor-related issues that may be candidates for a point releaseMinor Release A set of releases or versions having the same minor version number may be collectively referred to as .x , for example version 5.2.x to refer to versions 5.2, 5.2.1, 5.2.3, and all other versions in the 5.2 (five dot two) branch of that software. Minor Releases often make improvements to existing features and functionality.. Currently, there are 5 tickets with the backport to wp minor release label.

We also already have quite a few tickets targeted for the 6.5.1 milestone, so any eyes before the initial bug scrub will likely help that be more efficient.

Next Gutenberg release: 18.1

The next Gutenberg release will be 18.1, scheduled for release on April 10, and will include these issues.

Discussion

We began by discussing any potential follow-up actions and reflections following the recent 6.5 release. @fabiankaegy asked about starting a conversation about possibly evolving how we approach the field guideField guide The field guide is a type of blogpost published on Make/Core during the release candidate phase of the WordPress release cycle. The field guide generally lists all the dev notes published during the beta cycle. This guide is linked in the about page of the corresponding version of WordPress, in the release post and in the HelpHub version page. and dev notesdev note Each important change in WordPress Core is documented in a developers note, (usually called dev note). Good dev notes generally include a description of the change, the decision that led to this change, and a description of how developers are supposed to work with that change. Dev notes are published on Make/Core blog during the beta phase of WordPress release cycle. Publishing dev notes is particularly important when plugin/theme authors and WordPress developers need to be aware of those changes.In general, all dev notes are compiled into a Field Guide at the beginning of the release candidate phase. in future releases.

@jorbin has previously opened a related proposal to updating the field guide. We discussed where the most appropriate place was to start a conversation like this, and whether it sits more with CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress., Docs, or Project. As it touches on many different areas and how we do things within software release cycles, then it seems to fit more into the Core team’s scope.

@audrasjb suggested this may be good to discuss in the future #6-6-release-squad Slack channel so maybe the squad could discuss it in the open with the future Docs Leads and come up with a formal proposal for 6.6 on Make/Core.

@joemcgill also proposed arranging another release retrospective post to collect feedback about the release while it’s still fresh in people’s minds. @chanthaboune mentioned being able to do this in any way that works for folks. For 6.4, we collected the data in an anonymized format and then that data was shared on make/core, and we discussed potentially following a similar approach for 6.5.

Highlighted posts

The full list of posts from the last week in Core can be read on the agenda at this link.

Open floor

We started by highlighting this PR for the WP Importer in support of the Font Library from @mmaattiiaass.

@kkmuffme mentioned that they’re looking for reviews on several PRs, listed in this message and this message.

Two additional issues that were raised in the agenda comments were:

  • https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/15117 – “the excerptExcerpt An excerpt is the description of the blog post or page that will by default show on the blog archive page, in search results (SERPs), and on social media. With an SEO plugin, the excerpt may also be in that plugin’s metabox. regressionregression A software bug that breaks or degrades something that previously worked. Regressions are often treated as critical bugs or blockers. Recent regressions may be given higher priorities. A "3.6 regression" would be a bug in 3.6 that worked as intended in 3.5., that impacts all plugins incl. WooCommerce”
  • https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/59270 – “adding border setting to columns”

This issue was highlighted: Responsive previewing and device-specific editing. Nolan asked what the best way was to make a decision on the issue, as this has been open for 4 years. @annezazu replied with:

I understand that’s an important issue — it has been for a long time! I know some designers have recently chimed in there and there’s some momentum gathering. The best thing to do at this point is to be specific and keep sharing what would be helpful. Beyond that, the main blockerblocker A bug which is so severe that it blocks a release. is finding solid design solutions and finding specific/targeted ways to implement as anything that is implemented has to be maintained.

Also, @webcommsat highlighted a forthcoming contributor dayContributor Day Contributor Days are standalone days, frequently held before or after WordCamps but they can also happen at any time. They are events where people get together to work on various areas of https://make.wordpress.org/ There are many teams that people can participate in, each with a different focus. https://2017.us.wordcamp.org/contributor-day/ https://make.wordpress.org/support/handbook/getting-started/getting-started-at-a-contributor-day/. which is looking for core input and people to join. More info on here on Slack.

Props to @joemcgill for reviewing.

#6-5, #6-6, #dev-chat, #summary

Agenda, Dev Chat, Wednesday April 3, 2024

The next WordPress Developers Chat will take place on  Wednesday April 3, 2024 at 20:00 UTC in the core channel on Make WordPress Slack.

The live meeting will focus on the discussion for upcoming releases, and have an open floor section.

Additional items will be referred to in the various curated agenda sections, as below. If you have ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. requests for help, please do continue to post details in the comments section at the end of this agenda.

Announcements

WordPress 6.5 “Regina” has been released. Thank you to everyone who worked on, tested, and supported this release 🎉.

Forthcoming releases

Next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope.: 6.6

We are officially in the WordPress 6.6 release cycle. @priethor published this WordPress 6.6 Planning Proposal & Call for Volunteers post last week. Please take note of the following callouts on that post:

  • Please leave your feedback about the schedule and release squad size in the comments by April 7th.
  • If you are interested in participating in WordPress 6.6’s release squad as a lead or as a cohort, please show interest in the comments, specifying the role and the type of involvement (lead/cohort).

Next maintenance release: 6.5.1

There is no specific target date for WordPress 6.5.1 yet. However, we can start ensuring that all the correct bugs are targeted for it and that work progresses towards fixing them.

To assist with preparation for 6.5.1, an initial scrub will be held at Thursday, April 4, 2024 at 01:00 PM CDT in the #core slackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. channel.

@jorbin, Initial Bug Scrub for 6.5.1

Next GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ release: 18.1

Gutenberg 18.1 is scheduled for release on April 10 and will include these issues.

Discussions

This week the discussion will be a follow-up from the WordPress 6.5 release to address any high priority topics that that need to be addressed following the release.

Feel free to suggest additional topics related to this release in the comments.

Highlighted posts

CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. Editor Updates

Props to @annezazu for putting together these updates.

  • Project managementProviding more clarity in the Gutenberg GitHub Repo recapping some recent efforts to better organize the repo and ensure the high level labels and associated issues folks use to follow work at various scales are as accurate and robust as possible.
  • WordPress 6.6: Check out an early look at what’s on the mind already for 6.6: Block Hooks features for future WP releasesHTML API: Plans for 6.6Interactivity API – Iteration for WP 6.6. Keep in mind that these are meant to act as a container for iterations and will be actively updated as the cycle gets underway. If you want to follow a narrower scope of work for a release, this is the best way to do so.
  • Template extension: Allow extensions to customize the template name in the ‘Add template’ screen to help ease template registration and improve the experience extenders provide to end users when they add a custom template.
  • Styles: Filter out color and typography variations PR is underway, which gives theme authors the ability to create multiple color and typography settings. It does this by filtering out color and typography variations out of the list of style variations so that theme authors can add variations that target only these properties without having to create full variations.
  • Create BlockBlock Block is the abstract term used to describe units of markup that, composed together, form the content or layout of a webpage using the WordPress editor. The idea combines concepts of what in the past may have achieved with shortcodes, custom HTML, and embed discovery into a single consistent API and user experience. Theme PluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party: a community plugin that helps supercharge the Site Editor to create and edit block themes has a few efforts underway including early work to add a theme.json editor and bring creating theme variation to the site editor interface.
  • Design: recent design share has a slightly new format (links to useful design related figma links, issues, etc) to go along with some fresh, in progress designs. This includes the 18 min long walk through of current thinking with the Adminadmin (and super admin) Redesign, thoughts on the UXUX User experience for overrides in synced patterns, improvements to contentOnly experience, and more.
  • Patterns: a draft PR is underway to Merge Patterns & Template parts categories into a single group in the Site Editor > Patterns view allowing for less differentiation and easier access (no longer need to go into “manage all template parts”.  This is done as part of Advancing site editor index views.
  • Design tools: Allow negative values for margin controls has long been requested and is actively being explored in a promising draft PR.

Tickets for assistance

Tickets for 6.6 will be prioritized.
Please include detail of tickets / PR and the links into comments, and if you intend to be available during the meeting if there are any questions or will be async.

Open floor

Items for this can be shared in the comments.

Props to @mikachan for reviewing.

#agenda, #dev-chat

Summary, Dev Chat, March 27, 2024

Start of the meeting in SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/., facilitated by @joemcgill.

Announcements

WordPress 6.5 was scheduled for release on March 26, 2024, however, the release has now been rescheduled for April 2, 2024. Thanks to everyone involved in the related discussions around delaying the release by one week. You can read more in this post.

Forthcoming Releases

Next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope.: 6.5

There was a lot of activity in the #core channel today with everyone coordinating efforts around 6.5. There is a good summary of the conversations from @desrosj on Slack here.

Please continue to test the 6.5 release. See this list of key features to test, which was published alongside WP 6.5 BetaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. 3.

Next GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ release: 18.1

Gutenberg 18.0 was released on March 27 and included these issues. The next Gutenberg release will be 18.1, scheduled for release on April 10.

Discussion

We discussed the upcoming 6.5 RC4 scheduled for March 28, and we seem to be in really good shape. The following contributors are lined up to help:

We revisited plans for the 6.6 release squad. @priethor has a drafted post ready to publish with further details, however we have delayed the call for volunteers whilst decisions were still being made around 6.5. Now that we are in a good place for 6.5, @priethor suggested that we consider posting the call for volunteers after the 6.5 RC4 release party. Please leave a comment with your thoughts.

@jorbin shared that we’re still looking for a Gutenberg maintainer to help out with the 6.5 maintenance releases, but otherwise, we have all the pieces we need. The current release squad members are always welcome to help (but also understand that they may need a break). @jorbin also confirmed that the date for 6.5.1 is still being decided, but will avoid upcoming holidays where possible.

Please leave a comment if you’re interested in being part of the 6.5 maintenance releases. There are more details in the handbook about what’s involved in being part of a release squad.

Highlighted posts

The full list of posts from the last week in CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. can be read on the agenda at this link.

Open floor

During the open floor, Shariar Mahmud Prince requested help with an issue with the meta box docs, and @marybaum helped open a docs issue.

@joemcgill mentioned that the past several weeks have been intentionally focused on any discussion around WordPress 6.5, but we will soon have the bandwidth to discuss other topics and it would be great for those topics to be proposed by the attendees. Discussion topics can always be proposed in the comments of the agendas themselves, but @joemcgill and @mikachan would like to start to get a bit of a backlog of ideas to prioritize. We can do a call for topics posts, but would be happy to take any suggestions you have in the meantime.

@jorbin raised the following potential topics:

  • How can we get PHP8 support completed and out of “compatible with exceptions”
  • Aligning the coding standards for Core and Gutenberg so that both can use the same tooling

Tony Gravagno asked about improving the marketing around each WordPress release, especially about the release teams, and how people contribute to this huge effort in multiple cycles per year. @desrosj mentioned that there is a related ticket here, and @marybaum suggested that this fits well with the Marketing team’s new direction.

Props to @joemcgill for reviewing.

#6-5, #dev-chat, #summary

Agenda, Dev Chat, Wednesday March 27, 2024

The next WordPress Developers Chat will take place on  Wednesday March 27, 2024 at 20:00 UTC in the core channel on Make WordPress Slack.

The live meeting will focus on the discussion for updates on 6.5, and have an open floor section.

Additional items will be referred to in the various curated agenda sections, as below. If you have ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. requests for help, please do continue to post details in the comments section at the end of this agenda.

Announcements

WordPress 6.5 was scheduled for release on March 26, 2024, however, the release has now been rescheduled for April 2, 2024. Thanks to everyone involved in the related discussions around delaying the release by one week.

Forthcoming releases

Next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope.: 6.5

Updates from the release squad can be shared in the Dev Chat.

Please continue to test the 6.5 release. See this list of key features to test, which was published alongside WP 6.5 BetaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. 3.

Next GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ release: 18.0

Gutenberg 18.0 is scheduled for release on March 27 and will include these issues.

Discussions

This week the discussion will focus on any priority topics that need to be raised before the launch of WordPress 6.5.

Proposed topics

  • Are there any priority topics needed for discussion for WordPress 6.5 release preparations?
  • Follow-up for the release squad for 6.6

Feel free to suggest additional topics related to this release in the comments.

Highlighted posts

CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. Editor Updates

Props to @annezazu for putting together these updates.

Tickets for assistance

Tickets for 6.5 will be prioritized.
Please include detail of tickets / PR and the links into comments, and if you intend to be available during the meeting if there are any questions or will be async.

Open floor

Items for this can be shared in the comments.

Props to @joemcgill for reviewing.

#agenda, #dev-chat

Summary, Dev Chat, March 20, 2024

Start of the meeting in SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/., facilitated by @joemcgill.

Announcements

WordPress 6.5 RC 3 was released on March 19, 2024, and Gutenberg 17.9 was released on March 13. Please continue to help test and provide feedback.

Forthcoming Releases

Next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope.: 6.5

We are in the final week before WordPress 6.5 is scheduled to be released, with a Dry Run scheduled for next Monday, March 25, and the release scheduled for Tuesday, March 26.

@swissspidy and @sergeybiryukov will both be around to help during the Dry Run.

Please continue to test the 6.5 release. See this list of key features to test, which was published alongside WP 6.5 BetaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. 3.

Next GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ release: 18.0

Gutenberg 18.0 is scheduled for release on March 27 and will include these issues.

Discussion

Given that this was the last dev chat before the 6.5 release, we concentrated on discussing any final decisions, blockers, etc.

@swissspidy suggested starting with the Font Library:

From what we’ve seen so far, it seems that adding such a fallback logic appears to be more complex than originally anticipated and that it’s not feasible to land this in time for 6.5. Adding a silent fourth RCrelease candidate One of the final stages in the version release cycle, this version signals the potential to be a final release to the public. Also see alpha (beta). solely for that would be too risky.
So for 6.5 we might want to consider:
1. Leave the current situation as-is (fonts go to `wp-content/fonts`, no fallback)
2. Point people to plugins such as Fonts to Uploads and the dev-note explaining how to change the upload location.
3. Re-evaluate fallback logic for 6.5.1 or 6.6 if needed, also considering potential folders in the future (patterns, templates, AI models, etc.)

We discussed how the fallback logic is proving to be more complicated than expected and will present a future maintenance burden and potential for bugs that aren’t worth the risk of rushing to land a fix. We mentioned alternative options, including delaying the release and removing the Font Library.

The suggestion from release leads and people familiar with the latest state of the Font Library was that it is in a good enough shape to include, and that the difficulty is in the implementation of the potential automatic fallback and not in implementing the feature itself. Therefore, the plan following the conversation was that the feature will be shipped without the fallback logic in place.

Based on this, the following actions should be taken:

  1. A post on make/coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. to communicate the decision — @peterwilsoncc offered to start on a draft
  2. Update the docs with a pointer to the pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party@flexseth offered to help update docs (@mikachan also happy to help here)
  3. Update https://wordpress.org/plugins/fonts-to-uploads/ to a Canonical plugin with maintenance by WP Contributors/WP.org with source moved under the WP org on GitHubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/ so that it’s a shared responsibility
  4. Once the post outlining the decision to change to the the fallback directory behavior is posted, we should inform #forums, along with a request from them to be on the lookout for issues with the lack of a default Font Library fallback — @jorbin offered to help with this

Also related to the Font Library, @grantmkin noted that there is a wordpress-importer PR that needs review if someone has expertise and availability.

Highlighted posts

The full list of posts from the last week in Core can be read on the agenda at this link.

Open floor

There were two issues raised on the agenda:

  1. Would the fix for plugin zip file uploads be included in 6.5?
    • Yes, the fix is merged into 6.5
  2. Will we have an extra RC, since there are some unresolved Font Library tasks?
    • There is currently no extra RC release planned

When discussing whether we needed another RC, the suggestion was to release an RC for any necessary Font Library changes (or any additional needed code changes) later this week, while the $_old_files change and theme bumps are handled during the Dry Run without publishing an extra RC.

@joemcgill closed the chat by suggesting that if the purpose of an RC is to allow time for more testing, to not make it silent, and encourage the release leads to finalize a plan. Coordination about an extra RC continued following the meeting in the release leads channel.

Props to @joemcgill for reviewing.

#6-5, #dev-chat, #summary

Agenda, Dev Chat, Wednesday March 20, 2024

The next WordPress Developers Chat will take place on  Wednesday March 20, 2024 at 20:00 UTC in the core channel on Make WordPress Slack.

The live meeting will focus on the discussion for updates on 6.5, and have an open floor section.

Additional items will be referred to in the various curated agenda sections, as below. If you have ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. requests for help, please do continue to post details in the comments section at the end of this agenda.

Announcements

WordPress 6.5 RC 3 was released on March 19, 2024. Thanks to everyone involved and those who helped test.

Forthcoming releases

Next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope.: 6.5

Updates from the release squad can be shared in the Dev Chat.

Please continue to test the 6.5 release. See this list of key features to test, which was published alongside WP 6.5 BetaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. 3.

Next GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ release: 18.0

Gutenberg 18.0 is scheduled for release on March 27 and will include these issues.

Discussions

This week the discussion will focus on any priority topics that need to be raised before the launch of WordPress 6.5.

Proposed topics

  • Are there any priority topics needed for discussion ahead of the WordPress 6.5 release?
    • Is there a need for a silent RCrelease candidate One of the final stages in the version release cycle, this version signals the potential to be a final release to the public. Also see alpha (beta).?

Feel free to suggest additional topics related to this release in the comments.

Highlighted posts

CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. Editor Updates

Tickets for assistance

Tickets for 6.5 will be prioritized.
Please include detail of tickets / PR and the links into comments, and if you intend to be available during the meeting if there are any questions or will be async.

Open floor

Items for this can be shared in the comments.

Props to @joemcgill for reviewing.

#agenda, #dev-chat