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  • Stefano Aglietti 7:26 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink |
    SteveAgl • it.wordpress.org editor  

    I noticed that my comments in a discussion went in moderation status. Since when polyglots blogis moderated and why?

     
    • Samuel Sidler 7:36 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      It’s not supposed to be like that, but sometimes comments end up in moderation. As I told @wolly today in #polyglots: We usually approve them very quickly. Personally, they go to my inbox and I keep my unread at 0. :)

    • Dominik Schilling (ocean90) 1:40 pm on June 30, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Comment authors on w.org must have a previously approved comment. Because you have changed you email adress your comment went to moderation again.

  • Francesco Di Candia 3:41 pm on June 28, 2015 Permalink |
    francescodicandia  

    Hi i’m Francesco, i’m the organizer of Barletta WordPress Meetup in Italy as you can see at this page http://www.meetup.com/it/Barletta-WordPress-Meetup. Next MeetUp will be 17 July, would it be possible to put this information on it.wordpress.org page? I know that there are also other Italian MeetUp Groups in Milan, Rome, Bologna and so on. Would be possible to post also that information on it.wordpress.org? Thank you in advance, Francesco

     
    • Luca Sartoni 3:51 pm on June 28, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hey Francesco, that’s a great Idea. There are other meetups coming up in Italy, it would be great to have them featured on http://it.wordpress.org

      I personally organize the Romagna WordPress Meetup and these are the meetups I know about:

      Milano: http://www.meetup.com/WordPress-Meetup-Milano/
      Roma: http://www.meetup.com/RomaWordPress/
      Napoli: https://www.facebook.com/groups/wordpressnapoli/
      Bologna: https://www.facebook.com/groups/WordPressMeetupBologna/
      Barletta: http://www.meetup.com/Barletta-WordPress-Meetup/
      Romagna: http://www.meetup.com/Romagna-WordPress-Meetup/

    • Luca Sartoni 3:53 pm on June 28, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

    • Andrea Gandino 3:59 pm on June 28, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      That’s a wonderful idea to help more people know about the event. Thank you, Francesco!

    • Sara Rosso 4:00 pm on June 28, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m a co-organizer for Milan and the next one going to be on the 16th so it would be a good place to mention that as well. http://www.meetup.com/WordPress-Meetup-Milano/events/223463869/

    • Alin Marcu 4:03 pm on June 28, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hi all,

      You should contact the Translation Editors of your locale site, see: https://make.wordpress.org/polyglots/teams/?locale=it_IT

    • Karim Marucchi 4:58 pm on June 28, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      As someone who is always looking to support and come to meet ups. I think this is great. Please let me know if I can do anything to help get this information out there.

    • Olegs Belousovs 5:49 pm on June 28, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hey Luca, 😉 thanks for remembering about Torino too! On July 14th there will be the second a Meetup, after the pre-Meetup we had in june.

      I was happiness specialist on the first Meetup in Torino and and I think I will speak on the second.

      It will be great to centralize the information about the Italian Meetups and promote the local events, and I think it.wordpress.org might be best place for this.

      Thank you Francesco for this great idea.

      • Francesca 12:30 am on June 30, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Hey Oleg, can’t wait for the 14th! Let’s chat beforehand so we can arrange all the logistics (I prepared a Google Presentation Template so we can all use the same one). Thanks!

    • Dennis Ploetner 9:49 pm on June 28, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      That’s a great idea, @francescodicandia … it would be awesome to have the list of all WordPress meetups in Italy – like the one that @lucasartoni already posted – in such an importantant place.

    • Caspar 8:30 am on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The Rosetta site is a great place to publish meetup info, at least until there’s an alternative like the planned comhub. As the feed of that site can be included into the core dashboard widget via translation, announcements for meetup events can be shipped directly into the localized backend, for example in form of a monthly digest. Whether or not that sort of info may or may not be relevant for a majority of users, however, might be subject to another discussion. Just saying means of communication are at hand when it comes to spreading the word about local meetup events.

      • Caspar 8:42 am on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Commenting on my own comment: I wasn’t going to say, meetup info wasn’t relevant. I’d just be interested in views/arguments as we’ve had the topic popping up every now and then in the German community. However, as I said: different discussion.

    • Karim Marucchi 9:12 am on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      @Caspar I have found that in the Meetups I have attended in the U.S. And EU any way we can get the word out. (As “users” don’t think to search meetup.com) gets people in the door. Those people bring others. Once comhub has a widely published link, great. Until then the Rosetta site seems the best solution.

    • Wolly aka Paolo Valenti 11:49 am on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Created this page: https://it.wordpress.org/wpmeetup/

      I’m waiting for the ok for the facebook external link, by now it’s all done.

      • Andrea Gandino 12:41 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I believe the correct link for the meetup in Barletta is: http://www.meetup.com/it/Barletta-WordPress-Meetup/

        Thanks for creating the page, it can become really useful. It’d be great if news could be posted about individual meetups too, so that people organizing them would be able to properly announce, promote and explain them, an people willing to attend would be able to find relevant information all in one place.

        Anyway, minor thing, is the “wp” part in the page slug a little bit redundant? It’s probably clear that we’re talking about WordPress since we’re in dot org already.

        • Wolly aka Paolo Valenti 1:45 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          URL correct, thanx.

          News will be posted on the meetups pages, we cannot follow all the meetups, if there will be an automatic feed on rosetta’s website, we will activate it.

      • Luca Sartoni 1:58 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Thank you @wolly for setting up the page, it’s great!

        I believe it would be nice to have the wp dropped from the page title and slug so to go from /wpmeetup to /meetup.

        @francescodicandia, the other meetup organizers and I are putting together a few posts so to ignite the blog that has been sleeping for so long. According to the other people listed on this page https://make.wordpress.org/polyglots/teams/?locale=it_IT you are the only one capable of posting content, so would you be available for posting the news coming from the meetups in the following weeks?

        • Wolly aka Paolo Valenti 4:36 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          It’s not sleeping, the italian community is on another URL, since 2005.

          Rosetta it’s not ready to have everything needed to run a website.

          Yes, we can post me and @Steveagl.

          No, we don’t have time to follow Meetup’s update.

          If you think there something wrong you can ask to change me and @Steveagl and find new editor for italian.

          • Luca Sartoni 4:46 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Francesca Marano, Paolo Belcastro and Francesco Lodolo are all listed as editors but they don’t have permissions for publishing on it.wordpress.org. If you don’t have time for posting our news, they probably have it, can they eventually get permissions for publishing?

            The blog only have one entry dated 2008, it would be great to have that blog up and running. We have the capacity to keep it alive, we just don’t have access to it.

            Are you willing to help us?

            • Wolly aka Paolo Valenti 4:52 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink

              As I told you, the italian community is on another URl since 2005.

              Rosetta’s sites are, by now, only for translations.

              There many improvements on the go, but it’s not ready.

              There is an italian community and the blog is there.

              Here we do not post, having to different blogs it’s not a good idea.

              As I told you, if you do not agree you can ask to change validators.

              IMO, since there will be an official hub for meetup it’s a lost of time to make a duplicate here.

            • Luca Sartoni 4:59 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink

              Where is the blog of the Italian Community then? Can you link it? I presume is open to all the meetup organizers and contributors to publish on that, right?

              I honestly believe that it.wordpress.org should be the contral hub for the italian community anyways, is there a reason it’s somewhere else? and where is it exactly?

      • francescolaffi 7:32 am on June 30, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        great! I was looking at the meetups websites and noticed that the Barletta link is broken, has an extra link at the end, the new authors cant fix it as its a page, @wolly can you fix it? thanks

    • Wolly aka Paolo Valenti 11:53 am on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      My comment with the link to the nwe page is awaiting moderation.

      I created the wpmeetup page on italian rosetta website, you’ll find it in the menu.

    • Francesco Di Candia 4:53 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      hi there, i can help on modify and put information about meetup and other thinks on that should be the main site of italian community, IMHO.

      • Francesco Di Candia 4:55 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        sorry, lost a closed anchor tag. It was
        hi there, i can help on modify and put information about meetup and other thinks on it.wordpress.org that should be the main site of italian community, IMHO.

        • Wolly aka Paolo Valenti 5:09 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          @Luca Sartoni, I reply here, since the 3d doesn’t allow others replies.

          I cannot post the link, Foundation rule, but I think you know what is the site, for years years, you could find translations only there, and the support is still there.

          Yes everybody can write there.

          @Francesco, as I told Luca before, the blog and support is elsewhere, not here.

          • Luca Sartoni 5:31 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            You tell me that there is another site, but you cannot tell me what is the other site “because of Foundation rules”?

            I’m very confused here. Is the other site supported by the Foundation or not? because if it’s not, I don’t see any reason to keep the Rosetta site shut off for 7 years and now that people want to contribute they are told that they cannot because of “another site”.

            Italy should have the same as all the other countries like:
            Germany: https://de.wordpress.org/blog/
            Spain: https://es.wordpress.org/
            Portugal: https://pt.wordpress.org/

            Why Italy is so special to have a “another site” that cannot even be mentioned? it sounds really dodgy to me

            • Samuel Sidler 5:37 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink

              There are certain expectations for Rosetta sites that prevent them from linking to specific sites (for example, one with advertising). @wolly is talking about wpitaly.it, which cannot be linked to from Rosetta sites.

              That said, I think it’s a great idea to revive the blog on https://it.wordpress.org/. There’s absolutely no reason not to use that blog for the Italian community. In the not-too-distant future, we hope to add forums and P2s for Rosetta sites.

            • Karim Marucchi 5:40 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink

              Sorry my comment below was not worded well but I agree with @luca. It’s time to open the posts to other authors. I propose Luca and Francescodicandia

            • Wolly aka Paolo Valenti 5:48 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink

              You can propose what you want, but not to us.

              I know that it very nice to speak but pefore speaking it’s much better to follow the community and to inform about the rosetta.

              WE CANNOT ADD AUTHORS, we have power only for translators.

              We’d like to add others translation editors, that they can write too, but, by now, nobody of who’s writing is a stable translator.

              If @samuelsidler can add only authors for the blog, he can do that without ours permissions.

              Rosetta does not have support forum, there are technical problems that have stopped the deploy of local forums, so there isn’t italian support forum, here.

              Rosetta it’s in alpha, nothing else.

            • Samuel Sidler 5:57 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink

              @wolly: I’m not sure why you think you can’t add authors. I’ve confirmed that the Editor role on Rosetta sites can add new Authors. By all means, please add Authors to the site.

            • Karim Marucchi 6:35 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink

              @samuelsidler so my request stands to please add the community members that want to post to the site. I am asking to be added. I would like to see the meetup leaders added.

              Thank you.

            • Karim Marucchi 6:39 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink

              Sorry. I an NOT asking to be added. I am asking to add the meetup leaders. /typing from phone

            • Andrea Gandino 6:58 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink

              Local support forums might take a while to be usable, a’ight, but issues are there to be solved, eventually. But the blog functionality is there today, I don’t see a reason for not using it.

              There’s no better way to communicate things than dot org, since it’s the official hub for everything and the first place where it would make sense to find information of all kinds. In my opinion, the it.wordpress.org site should be no different.

    • Karim Marucchi 5:09 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I don’t understand why we can not have posts like every other WordPress site. I would like to see this opened up for more people and more timely updates. I propose we make Meetup organizers “authors” for posts.

    • Karim Marucchi 5:20 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I do not follow your logic for some other site? And a duplicate of what other site?

      Again, the Rosetta site “is” the hub now. So let’s get meeting organizers to post please.

    • Samuel Sidler 6:45 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      @wolly was able to figure out how to add authors. Both @lucasartoni and @francina were upgraded to Authors (they were previously Subscribers) and can post on it.wordpress.org.

      • Francesca 12:37 am on June 30, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Thanks @samuelsidler: I think it’s great to have one blog to rule them all :) There is nothing worse for a community than fragmentation, especially in its early stages (half of the Meetups listed above started in 2015!). Looking forward to contributing to the project.

    • Caspar 6:59 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      @wolly I basically share your point of view on Rosetta (though I think “alpha” is a bit strong). WordPress.org as a platform could use some love in various places. Tough the meta team does a fantastic job imo, they can obviously only do so much.

      However, focusing your undoubtedly achieving energy elsewhere, will eventually lead to more frustration as WordPress.org as the official home of WordPress will not go away. New users will always look in this direction and be confused about the self-hosted site, or the other way around. Neither of both sites will profit from a situation like that in the long run, much less will the Italian community. I’m sharing personal experience here, so please don’t think I’m trying to “preach”.

      On a sidenote, I’d so love to learn more about Italian WordPress history. :) Would you be open to a conversation with a beer in front of us? At a WordCamp in Italy some time soon maybe even? 😉 *hint hint*

    • Stefano Aglietti 7:15 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I can resume WP italian story. I translate WP since 2004 wolly joined in 2005 when wpitaly was borne. Since then we provided at every rrelease (usually in a day or 2, rarely in a week) an italian version available for download long time before we had wordpress.org site release versione for locale, since then we provided free support thourgh a forum etc. Since there is pother projects we spent tons of hours to translate and approve and revision submission translation proposal (wit’s months we are asking to have on glotpress 2 things that are fundamental to encourage contributors (and not are not the gamification and other funny stuff). During all this time we never mixed the business side of wordpress works we do, we firmly kept the free side always free and not a way to flow people to ask our services. Since quite a years asound we are doing all wrong… but ok.

      That’s the story. I still do release, answering mails from the contact form, you know that 80% are related to something I shuldn’t care: wordpress.com sites, but i still spend my time to anser giving the address where they can find helps for it. ( I wonder if i should still spend time for a business site for free?).

      I will still do that work for the community till someone will tell me I’m not more useful and my works is unnecessary cause they can do better and show me where the exit door is.

      • Andrea Gandino 8:11 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Thanks for joining the discussion, Stefano; I think no one wants to exclude anyone, it’s sad that idea crossed your mind.

        Two things I’d like to point out: a) every contribution is not only accepted, but also welcomed, including yours, especially because of your experience across the board, and b) it’d be great to have more of that from others as well, also for aspects that should deserve more attention such as community events, all under the light of the official dot org ecosystem.

      • Caspar 8:52 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        @ Stefano That sounds like an amazing achievement which I wasn’t going to question at all. Thanks for taking the time sharing!

      • Luca Sartoni 9:57 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I have a profound respect for the dedication that you and @wolly put into translations. I think nobody here is questioning the quality and quantity of work you guys are providing since the very beginning of the project. We just want to contribute too, we are organising meetups and we can provide news to the Rosetta site. The goal is to have more people involved and we would be very happy to contribute in establishing a healthy environment for all the people who want to take part of this project.

    • Stefano Aglietti 7:21 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      why my comment is in moderation?

    • jubstuff 8:42 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      As someone who has been following the community (in silence, my fault) for some time, I really endorse the idea to revive the it.wordpress.org blog.

      It’s such a sad sight to see the desolation of that “place” compared to other European scenes ( kudos to the German community, I really like their Rosetta site :) )

      I am willing to contribute in writing posts, too. I wrote articles in the past and this could be a great opportunity to start again and contributing to the Italian WordPress scene.

    • francescolaffi 8:59 pm on June 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Glad to see lot of WP meetups growing in italy, joining a bit late to the discussion so I’ll make a general reply.

      I agree that it.wordpress.org should be a central point for the italian community, in addition to being under the official foundation domain its also the first result for several google searches (i.e. WordPress Italia and similar) so it would be a shame to have it outdated and lacking info.

      @wolly and @steveagl I’m sure that mostly everyone in the italian WP community is aware of your work on localization, support, promoting WP in italy since the early days and the role of wpitaly.it, and not looking forward to exclude you, hope to see collaboration across all the community going forward

    • Sara Rosso 11:41 am on June 30, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m excited for some renewed energy here – and to echo all the commenters before me – @wolly and @steveagl you have contributed so much to the community and no one is debating that. Your work has been wonderful, and appreciated!

      There’s still so much more we can do as a community, and it’s great to start getting organized around that, especially being able to activate and incorporate new tools the rest of the WP community is using like Slack and Meetups, the Rosetta sites once they’re ready, and rejuvenate the existing it.wordpress.org blog. The more people we can get involved, the more people we can get involved! Everyone wins.

  • aagam94 11:06 am on June 26, 2015 Permalink |
    aagam94  

    Hi,
    I am part of WordCamp Android app developer team. As we are planning to have a beta release of the android app, we need contributions to the project – https://translate.wordpress.org/projects/apps/wordcamp-android/dev

    Thank you all for your help :)

     
  • WordPress Suppo 9:01 pm on June 24, 2015 Permalink |
    Anasslikewordpress • ar.wordpress.org validator
    Tags: ,   

    Spanish (Colombia) does not have any validators yet.

    New Locale Request for Spanish Colombia

    Locale: es_CO
    Country code: CO
    Plural forms: nplurals=2; plural=(n != 1);
    Language native name: Spanish (Colombia)
    Sub-domain: es-co.wordpress.org
    Site Title: WordPress de Colombia
    Site Description: WordPress en Español de Colombia
    Admin Username(s): nsdirectomo
    Admin Email: anrahou at gmail.com

     
  • WordPress Suppo 8:29 pm on June 24, 2015 Permalink |
    Anasslikewordpress • ar.wordpress.org validator
    Tags:   

    Hi!

    I want to begin working at our local version of WordPress as a Validator,because no one is in charge yet.
    “Spanish (Colombia) does not have any validators yet.”

    I have previous experience working at a translator and validator in other languages into WordPress projects.

    Español de Colombia / Spanish (Colombia)

    Locale site: —
    Version: —
    WordPress Locale: es_CO
    GlotPress Locale Code: es-co

     
  • daniluk4000 7:02 pm on June 24, 2015 Permalink |
    daniluk4000
    Tags: , , ,   

    Russian Validator 

    Hi, I want to be a Russian Validator. For our translators: I will be active and check all the words, i.e. will work better than before. I will translate absolutely all the projects in my (a lot) spare time. Take into consideration what @sergeybiryukov not check my translations for a few weeks. I hope for a favorable reply, really want to be, sincerely, me.

     
    • Sergey Biryukov 2:33 am on June 25, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hi @daniluk4000,

      Being a validator is more than just translating and approving strings, it’s also making sure that the context is right, the wording and sentence structure sounds natural for our language and is not a direct copy of the English sentence, the word choice is consistent across similar strings, the punctuation is correct, the string doesn’t break the UI in an unexpected way, etc.

      While I approve most of the strings submitted by others, I usually have to make a lot of edits to make sure everything above is accounted for.

      I’m not the only validator, but we’re doing this in our spare time, so it might take more than a week or two for things to happen.

      We always finish WordPress core projects on time. Other projects might occasionally fall behind, but we’ll get there.

      That said, there’s a plan to open up GlotPress for all the plugins from the repository in the upcoming months, and we’ll need a lot of new validators when it happens.

      Don’t get me wrong, I know we both want to make WordPress and related projects better. By all means, please continue contributing, your efforts are appreciated.

      I’m going to look through all the projects with waiting strings this Sunday during the WCEU contributor day.

    • daniluk4000 7:04 am on June 25, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      @sergeybiryukov I know that you is WordPress Core contributor, but as I said, I can work better than before. So I’m currently the validator of getbblog.com/ru, and I think that is my biggest, important and most correctly largest translation.

      By the way, when I have done the new translation, I need to create a post in this blog. I can’t just translate, because you don’t see it. This is the main difficulty. Besides, I know a lot of lines that are poorly and incorrect sound in Russian in several projects. And how do I fix them?!

  • Petya Raykovska 9:55 am on June 24, 2015 Permalink |
    petya • bg.wordpress.org editor  

    We will skip the polyglots chat today, as I am on WCEU duty and Dominik is on a plane. Any requests or questions can be posted here or on Slack.

     
  • brandbrilliance 6:54 am on June 19, 2015 Permalink |
    brandbrilliance
    Tags: ,   

    English (South Africa) en_ZA 

    Locale: en_ZA
    Country code: ZA
    Plural forms: nplurals=2; plural=(n != 1);
    Language native name: English (South Africa)
    Sub-domain: en-za.wordpress.org
    Site Title: English (South Africa)
    Site Description: WordPress in South African English
    Admin Username(s): brandbrilliance
    Admin Email: john at brandbrilliance.co.za

     
  • brandbrilliance 3:29 pm on June 18, 2015 Permalink |
    brandbrilliance
    Tags: english, , south africa   

    For proper LOCALE settings, how can we get an official translation for English (South Africa) added under en_ZA. Basically we use British English, so you can just copy the en_GB as a starting point. I have added custom language files in my wp-content/languages folder, but these don’t show up in the GENERAL|SETTINGS as “English (South Africa)” because this mapping is missing (I don’t know where it’s coded), as it’s not in the language file either.

     
  • thierryyyyyyy 12:43 pm on June 17, 2015 Permalink |
    thierryyyyyyy
    Tags: , ,   

    Dear fr_FR validators,

    I finished to translate the last strings waiting, I would love that the bbPress get finalized. It’s only waiting for validators….

     
  • Petya Raykovska 9:24 am on June 17, 2015 Permalink |
    petya • bg.wordpress.org editor
    Tags:   

    Dear Polyglots,

    I have my hands full with WordCamp Europe for the next two weeks. Dominik is busy with core and also coming to Seville next week.

    We don’t have an agenda for today’s chat, but will be in Slack from 10:00 UTC for an hour, as per usual, to answer questions if you want to bring any to the table.

    If anyone would like to host next week’s chat and collect notes, we would highly appreciate the help. Just ping us on Slack or raise your hand here.

    Cheers!
    Petya

     
  • zilek 8:39 pm on June 14, 2015 Permalink |
    zilek  

    Hi people
    Is there a plan to have a Serbian Latin Script version of core WordPress?
    I would like to help with that!
    Cheers

     
    • Bjørn Johansen 6:36 am on June 15, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      According to Milan Dinić (Serbian translator), there’s a plugin provided with the Serbian package that enables it. If you just enable it, you should be set.

    • Carlos 2:03 pm on June 15, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Currently their is only Serbian Cyrillic locale. @dimadin @lanche86 thoughts? Their is a third party WordPress plugin that does this translation Cyrillic to Latin Script. Should Serbian Latin Script be it’s own locale instead of depending on a plugin? @petya @zilek

      • Milan Dinić 3:57 pm on June 15, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        This is not true. There is only one locale, sr_RS, that is by default written in Serbian Cyrillic script, but it can be easily switched to Serbian Latin script just by enabling plugin that is included with every sr_RS package for the last seven years.

        That plugin is not third party, as it’s maintained by Serbian localization team and is hosted in official repository for language files, it is originally made by someone outside Serbian localization project on suggestion made by Polyglots leadership at the time.

        There is only one Serbian language that is identical when written in both Cyrillic and Latin script, and it is possible to do automatic transliteration from Cyrillic to Latin, which this plugin does. It was made to have both scripts without having separate localization projects that need to be maintained and worked on, and that option was the best at the time.

        • Carlos 11:34 pm on June 15, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          @dimadin, thank you for giving us some background on how Serbian locale is setup. The context and history behind decisions are not always known or documented so the background you gave is appreciated.

          Maybe, while we are on topic we should revisit this? While I can appreciate your very valid concerns of creating a new locale, there are some factors to consider. These factors may not have existed when the decision was made to keep Serbian as one locale and a plugin for Latin Script.

          My biggest concern is that WP now has the ability to switch locales using WP settings from a dropdown menu in the General Settings page. WP no longer requires manually installing a locale and editing wp-config.php. Since it’s so easy to switch locales since WP 4.0 on any installation, end-users maybe unaware that their is plugin that supports Latin Script since their is not longer a need for them to visit the Serbian Rosetta site and read the installation instructions. Moreover, it defeats the purpose of having this ability as it’s no longer a single step process if your force to download a plugin to support the alphabet for your language.

          I also meant no offense when I said “third-party”. I am aware of the locale team support of the plugin. Which I think is awesome! However, I consider anything that is not part WP core or the end-user as “third-party.” Which is my second concern. With the plugin outside of simple GlotPress translations & not a part of WP core it’s hard to guarantee support for end-users.

          Maybe the right decision is to keep it as one locale but make the plugin’s functionality part of WP core? Maybe we should make Serbian Latin Script it’s own locale?

          Thoughts? @lanche86 @zilek

    • zilek 3:40 pm on June 15, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Thanks @bjornjohansen, I know about the plugin, but as @hiwhatsup said I think it would be good not to depend on plugin. @dimadin @lanche86 @petya ?

    • Milan Dinić 4:06 pm on June 15, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I described in more detail current situation in comment above. What I want to add that there is already Serbian Latin version of core as described above, imagine that enabling plugin is just like checking some option in WordPress core that switches between scripts.

      There is no need to have a separate localization project for Serbian in Latin as that is the same language. What can be done is changing workflow as there are other languages that need this as well (for example, I read that Portuguese has also similar situation now, German has formal and informal etc). To achieve this, WordPress core needs to change and there must be changes on wordpress.org side.

      • Carlos 12:36 am on June 16, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Well their are multiple locales are technically the same language, for example English, Spanish, & French. Usually the differences are cultural that lead to different sentence structure, spelling, and vocabulary. While this may not be the case here (Since Serbian is one language with two written systems).

        Since it’s direct translation from the latin script to cyrillic maybe the solution is as you suggested to ask to make this a WP core future enhancement?

        Or maybe we build support into GlotPress and have it automatically generate and compile a language pack for Latin Script from the Cyrillic translations leaving WP Core alone?

        • Milan Dinić 12:49 pm on June 16, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Actually, I am aware of possible improvement and have already asked on Slack before 4.2 release, and written draft of text, but waited since there were security issues with 4.2 and later work on i18n of plugins and themes directories and I though those are more important while sr_RS issue is not urgent nor it should be decided over night.

    • Petya Raykovska 10:53 pm on June 16, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hey everyone,

      @dimadin, thank you for providing the history and current status of things. It was really useful to learn the background of how things happened with Serbian as it’s one of the few languages that uses two scripts.

      Just out of pure curiosity, do you have any way of tracking how many people use it with the Cyrillic script and how many switch to Latin?

      Thanks!
      Petya

  • daniluk4000 10:39 am on June 11, 2015 Permalink |
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    Please check new Russian projects

     
  • Petya Raykovska 9:29 am on June 10, 2015 Permalink |
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    Agenda for the Polyglots Chat on June 10 

    Hey dear Polyglots,

    Here’s the proposed agenda for the chat today. As always – feel free to add to it in the comments or directly during the meeting on Slack.

    Locale Stats
    Tech Update
    GlotPress Task list – let’s help the GlotPress tech team prioritise tasks
    Open discussion

    See you at 10UTC on Slack

    Cheers!
    Petya

     
  • Petya Raykovska 8:44 am on June 10, 2015 Permalink |
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    Notes from the Polyglots chat on June 3rd 

    Locale stats

    Only four locales left a minor version behind. And out of those four Welsh is at 100% so will be contacting the translation editors to see how we can help them release.

    Other than that, we have 51 locales up to date.

    45 are translated 100%

    There are five locales that have only one string to get to 100 – fr_CA, de_CH, oci, fa_IR, es_PE

    Tech update

    @ocean90 has been working on the RTL version of the plugin directory.

     

    Design update of the Project pages on translate.wordpress.org

    Screenshot 2015-06-10 10.32.51

    Here are the mockups:

    The #meta-i18n chats happen every Tuesday at 11 UTC, if you want to give feedback on these, feel free to drop by and discuss with the team. You can also do it here and we’ll get the the notes from the chat to the meta team.

    Public Download stats

    There was a somewhat heated discussion on whether or now download stats from the wp-admin available for Translation Editors should be made public.

    The conclusion was that the useful stats are active localized installs. Those are not the stats available in the Rosetta sites’ admin, so making them public might cause confusion and lead to inaccurate data being spread.

    As @ocean90 said: The only stats which will be made public soon is the number of active localized installs. But these stats needs to be collected and sanitized first.”

    Would be great to have those at https://wordpress.org/about/stats/

     

     

     
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