Dev Chat Agenda for April 15, 2020

Here is the agenda for the weekly meeting happening later today: Wednesday April 15, 2020 at 20:00 UTC.

Announcements

If anyone has any announcement to makemake A collection of P2 blogs at make.wordpress.org, which are the home to a number of contributor groups, including core development (make/core, formerly "wpdevel"), the UI working group (make/ui), translators (make/polyglots), the theme reviewers (make/themes), resources for plugin authors (make/plugins), and the accessibility working group (make/accessibility)., now is the time!

Highlighted blogblog (versus network, site) posts

Components Check-in

  • News from components
  • Components that need help
  • Cross-component collaboration

Open Floor

Got something to propose for the agenda, or a specific item relevant to our standard list above?

Please leave a comment, and say whether or not you’ll be in the chat, so the group can either give you the floor or bring up your topic for you, accordingly.

This meeting happens in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#5-4, #agenda, #devchat

Devchat meeting summary – April 8, 2020

@audrasjb facilitated the chat on this agenda.

Full meeting transcript on Slack

Announcements

Upcoming Releases

Next minor releaseMinor Release A set of releases or versions having the same minor version number may be collectively referred to as .x , for example version 5.2.x to refer to versions 5.2, 5.2.1, 5.2.3, and all other versions in the 5.2 (five dot two) branch of that software. Minor Releases often make improvements to existing features and functionality.: WP 5.4.1

While there is no releaseRelease A release is the distribution of the final version of an application. A software release may be either public or private and generally constitutes the initial or new generation of a new or upgraded application. A release is preceded by the distribution of alpha and then beta versions of the software. planning for the moment, there is already 12 tickets in the milestone.

2 tickets are labelled with major severityseverity The seriousness of the ticket in the eyes of the reporter. Generally, severity is a judgment of how bad a bug is, while priority is its relationship to other bugs.. It will probably lead to a point releaseMinor Release A set of releases or versions having the same minor version number may be collectively referred to as .x , for example version 5.2.x to refer to versions 5.2, 5.2.1, 5.2.3, and all other versions in the 5.2 (five dot two) branch of that software. Minor Releases often make improvements to existing features and functionality. in few weeks.

@whyisjake will run a first bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. scrub for WP 5.4.1 on Thursday April 9, 2020 at 20:00 UTC.

@marybaum volunteered to run another bug scrub on Friday.

Next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope.: WP 5.5

There is currently 27 tickets with early keyword in the milestone. Those tickets need to be merged as soon as possible.

@davidbaumwald will run a first bug scrub for WP 5.5 on Tuesday April 14, 2020 at 19:00 UTC.

Component maintainers updates

@afragen shared a number of tickets for theme compatibility that still need eyes and are marked early. All have working patches and need further testing.

@audrasjb pointed out that the Auto-updates team needs a cross-team discussion about wording and specifically concerning the action links text labels. Design and AccessibilityAccessibility Accessibility (commonly shortened to a11y) refers to the design of products, devices, services, or environments for people with disabilities. The concept of accessible design ensures both “direct access” (i.e. unassisted) and “indirect access” meaning compatibility with a person’s assistive technology (for example, computer screen readers). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessibility) teams could help, and of course everyone interested. Design & Wording validation is the main goal for the next version of the feature pluginFeature Plugin A plugin that was created with the intention of eventually being proposed for inclusion in WordPress Core. See Features as Plugins..

@garrett-eclipse shared that the Privacy team has a multisitemultisite Used to describe a WordPress installation with a network of multiple blogs, grouped by sites. This installation type has shared users tables, and creates separate database tables for each blog (wp_posts becomes wp_0_posts). See also network, blog, site focus in 5.5 so any people from Networknetwork (versus site, blog)/multisite component is welcome to assist.

Daylight saving time: devchat meeting time change

As Daylight saving time already started for every countries/locales on our planet 🌏 the devchat meeting time will be adjusted from 21:00 UTC to 20:00 UTC.

The next meeting will be held on Wednesday April 15, 2020 at 20:00 UTC.

@marybaum is going to publish a specific announcement about this adjustment.

#5-4-1, #5-4, #5-5, #dev-chat, #devchat

Dev Chat Agenda for April 8, 2020

Here is the agenda for the weekly meeting happening later today: Wednesday April 8, 2020 at 21:00 UTC.

Announcements

If anyone has any announcement to makemake A collection of P2 blogs at make.wordpress.org, which are the home to a number of contributor groups, including core development (make/core, formerly "wpdevel"), the UI working group (make/ui), translators (make/polyglots), the theme reviewers (make/themes), resources for plugin authors (make/plugins), and the accessibility working group (make/accessibility)., now is the time!

Highlighted blogblog (versus network, site) posts

  • Showing Online WordCamps in the Events Widget – Should online WordCamps be added to the Events widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user.? If so, who should they be shown to?
  • 5.4 Retrospective – Call for feedback

Components Check-in

  • News from components
  • Components that need help
  • Cross-component collaboration

Open Floor

Got something to propose for the agenda, or a specific item relevant to our standard list above?

Please leave a comment, and say whether or not you’ll be in the chat, so the group can either give you the floor or bring up your topic for you, accordingly.

This meeting happens in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#5-4, #agenda, #devchat

5.4 Retrospective – Call for feedback

WordPress 5.4 “Adderley” was released on March 31, 2020.

In order to prepare a retrospective post, I would like to ask everyone to leave some comments below with things they would like to bring up. To help, here are some questions to ask yourself:

  • What should WordPress start doing as a part of the development process?
  • What should WordPress stop doing as a part of the development process?
  • What should WordPress continue doing as a part of the development process?

Please note that I am looking for feedback specifically on the development and releaseRelease A release is the distribution of the final version of an application. A software release may be either public or private and generally constitutes the initial or new generation of a new or upgraded application. A release is preceded by the distribution of alpha and then beta versions of the software. process.

Please share your thoughts in the comments below! Deadline: April 30, 2020

If you rather not give your feedback in a public space, please reach out to me (@francina) or @davidbaumwald, in SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/.. We are available to collect your feedback in a safe space, with no judgement and use it in the retrospective in an anonymous form.

Remember when commenting to keep the discussion professional and focused on ways the process of creating WordPress is either already working great or can be improved.

#5-4, #retrospective

Dev Chat summary – April 1, 2020

@davidbaumwald led the chat on this agenda.

Full meeting translate on Slack.

This is the first devchat after the releaseRelease A release is the distribution of the final version of an application. A software release may be either public or private and generally constitutes the initial or new generation of a new or upgraded application. A release is preceded by the distribution of alpha and then beta versions of the software. of WordPress 5.4.

Announcements

WordPress 5.4 “Adderley” was released yesterday, March 31, 2020 as scheduled.

@audrasjb shared the stats for contributors to the release. There was a total of 552 contributors from 48 countries, 32% of them being new contributors. For more accurate release contributors statistics, please fill in your WordPress profile (if you want).

Highlighted Blogblog (versus network, site) Posts

@davidbaumwald shared the posts of CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. Privacy team about the WP Consent API feature pluginFeature Plugin A plugin that was created with the intention of eventually being proposed for inclusion in WordPress Core. See Features as Plugins. proposal and the Guidelines for Internet Explorer 11 support in WordPress.

Upcoming Releases

@davidbaumwald reminded that 5.5 has been in Alpha phase for a while now.

Components Check-in

@audrasjb announced the release of version 0.4 of Auto-updates pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party which contains all features initially planned fot the project; as well as Themes updates and email notifications. Design, copy and accessibility reviews and feedback are welcome from plugin authors and WordPress developers.

Open Floor

@howdy_mcgee called for a feedback on these old TracTrac An open source project by Edgewall Software that serves as a bug tracker and project management tool for WordPress. tickets: #29418, #39447, #46768, #37245, #38074, #37255 and #24142.

@azaozz shared the link of WordPress 5.4 master list in support forums. Please, go through this before posting a topic in the forums.

@ipstenu and @azaozz called for attention on respectively these two tickets #49753 and #4975, related to 5.4.

@howdy_mcgee pointed to #24780 and said he has made a document to track the supression operators in Core codebase.

@jeffpaul asked we should start taking a look at the 5.5 early tickets to review patches and look to get some of those in sooner. Here’s for reference the Trac query for 5.5 tickets.

@jeffpaul also suggested to schedule an early-specific bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. scrub in the next couple of weeks to help move those tickets along. A few people voluntereed to lead these scrubs.

@bph reminded that the WPBlockTalk is happening on April 2, and everyone is welcome to register here.

#5-4, #5-5, #dev-chat, #summary

Dev Chat Agenda for April 1, 2020

Here is the agenda for the weekly meeting happening later today: Wednesday, March 25, 2020, at 09:00 PM UTC.

Announcements

WordPress 5.4 “Adderley” was released yesterday, March 31, 2020!

Highlighted blogblog (versus network, site) posts

Components Check-in

  • News from components
  • Components that need help
  • Cross-component collaboration

Open Floor

Got something to propose for the agenda, or a specific item relevant to our standard list above?

Please leave a comment, and say whether or not you’ll be in the chat, so the group can either give you the floor or bring up your topic for you, accordingly.

This meeting happens in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#5-4, #agenda, #devchat

Dev Chat summary – March 25, 2020

@francina facilitated the chat on this agenda.

Full meeting transcript on Slack

This devchat marked week 11 of the 5.4 release cycle.

Announcements

WordPress 5.4 Release Candidate 4 was released on Tuesday March 24, 2020 and everything went smoothly.

@audrasjb shared an update on WP Auto-updates Feature PluginFeature Plugin A plugin that was created with the intention of eventually being proposed for inclusion in WordPress Core. See Features as Plugins.: it was moved from his personal GitHubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/ account to WordPress/wp-autoupdates which is the new official GitHub repository of this project. The #core-auto-updates team will try to ship version 0.4 before WP 5.4 is released. This new version aims to handle auto-updates for themes.

@afragen asked for a review of some Trac tickets which are all associated with Theme compatibility checks and will likely have interaction with the auto-updates feature. The idea is to ship them early in WordPress 5.5.

@whyisjake pointed out that he really like the work that is going on in #core-auto-updates SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. channel and think that trying to land in the next few releases would be excellent. Related, He’d love to see #core-passwords (two-factors authentification – 2FA) land in coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. too. In his opinion, the pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party is so mature at this point that having it left out almost seems like an omission. @whyisjake is going to work on a merge proposal.

@clorith raised that it would be necessary to makemake A collection of P2 blogs at make.wordpress.org, which are the home to a number of contributor groups, including core development (make/core, formerly "wpdevel"), the UI working group (make/ui), translators (make/polyglots), the theme reviewers (make/themes), resources for plugin authors (make/plugins), and the accessibility working group (make/accessibility). sure that the 2FA proposal also highlights the concerns with how to address users locking them selves out (which was the major holdback previously).

@azaozz announced that the patch for image lazy-loading attribute is ready for testing.

Upcoming Releases

The current major is 5.4, scheduled to go out on March 31st 2020; please keep testing for all the bugs!

There are two ways do it:

Trunktrunk A directory in Subversion containing the latest development code in preparation for the next major release cycle. If you are running "trunk", then you are on the latest revision. has been branched to 5.5 on the beginning of March. That means 5.5 is officially in Alpha.

@francina announced that work for 5.6 –which is going to be an all-women release– has kicked off with an initial round of messages going out to the women that expressed interest. @angelasjin @francina and Chloé Bringmann are contacting them to hear if they are still interested, what skills they have and what expectations.

Components Check-in

@francina shared a proposal to change the Components Check-in. This is always done towards the end of the chat and feels rushed. There is never really time to dig into the topics they might bring up. Francesca shared two ideas:

  1. Schedule a weekly post where they can leave their status update, like the one for Community deputies.
  2. Adopt a Slack Bot that once a week will ask the maintainers for a status update: maybe in a new component-maintainers Slack channel. Core is getting very busy with TracTrac An open source project by Edgewall Software that serves as a bug tracker and project management tool for WordPress. and Travis bots, and RSS.

@johnbillion added that trying a weekly post could be a good idea. Maybe every Tuesday so it’s ready for the dev chat on Wednesdays in case anything comes up.

@francina proposed to talk to #meta to set this up and test drive it for 8 weeks.

Open floor

@isabel_brison proposed to create a set of guidelines for Internet Explorer support. The CSSCSS Cascading Style Sheets. team kind of decided on starting to deprecate it, and “graceful degradation” seems a good way to go forward, meaning Core can use unsupported technology to make non-essential enhancements. Isabel wants to agree on what’s “essential” here, and created a Trac ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. to start the discussion: #49696

@paaljoachim suggested to puntpunt Contributors sometimes use the verb "punt" when talking about a ticket. This means it is being pushed out to a future release. This typically occurs for lower priority tickets near the end of the release cycle that don't "make the cut." In this is colloquial usage of the word, it means to delay or equivocate. (It also describes a play in American football where a team essentially passes up on an opportunity, hoping to put themselves in a better position later to try again.) default full screen mode to 5.5 as there is a pull request on Gutenberg project GitHub repository to provide an alternative approach.

@audrasjb pointed out that the proposal in this pull request would be a way better than the current implementation.

@whyisjake added that this is not a realistic change for WP 5.4, it’s a proof of concept, and not a fully tested feature.

@francina confirmed that @matt took the decision to ship WordPress 5.4 with this feature. Matt also commented in the Accessibility Team statement post.

@joyously stated it’s hard to contribute when concerns are ignored. @chanthaboune answered she can understand how they can feel ignored. A lot of that research gets done solo, and it’s often hard to remember to recap your own research. For full sitesite (versus network, blog) editing to be a reality by the end of the year, the work can start bringing incremental changes. This change is feeling very jarring, but there is more worry about not have any mid-point between here and Full Site Editing.

@peterwilsoncc, @clorith and @audrasjb agreed that since RC4 was released, it’s not realistic to revert this change. The discussion can continue in a post-mortem post on Make/Core.

#5-4, #5-5, #5-6, #dev-chat, #feature-autoupdates, #feature-lazyloading, #two-factor

Dev Chat Agenda for March 25, 2020 (5.4 Week 11)

Here is the agenda for the weekly meeting happening later today: Wednesday, March 25, 2020, at 09:00 PM UTC.

Announcements

WordPress 5.4 Release Candidate 4 landed yesterday, March 24, as scheduled.

Upcoming Releases

  • The current major is 5.4, scheduled to go out on March 31st 2020; please keep testing for all the bugs!
  • Trunktrunk A directory in Subversion containing the latest development code in preparation for the next major release cycle. If you are running "trunk", then you are on the latest revision. has branched to 5.5 on the beginning of March. That means 5.5 is officially in Alpha.
  • Work for 5.6, aka all-women release, has kicked off with an initial round of messages going out to the women that expressed interest.

Components Check-in

  • News from components
  • Components that need help
  • Cross-component collaboration

Open Floor

Got something to propose for the agenda, or a specific item relevant to our standard list above?

Please leave a comment, and say whether or not you’ll be in the chat, so the group can either give you the floor or bring up your topic for you, accordingly.

This meeting happens in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#5-4, #agenda, #devchat

Dev chat summary, March 18, 2020

@marybaum facilitated the chat on this agenda.

Full meeting transcript on Slack

This devchat marked week 10 of the 5.4 release cycle.

Announcements

WordPress 5.4 Release Candidate 3 was released on Tuesday March 17th! 🎉Thank you to everyone that has contributed! @johannlinnarsson asked when we might expect the final 5.4 releaseRelease A release is the distribution of the final version of an application. A software release may be either public or private and generally constitutes the initial or new generation of a new or upgraded application. A release is preceded by the distribution of alpha and then beta versions of the software. and @marybaum confirmed that March 31 is the target release date. 

Upcoming releases WordPress 5.4

WordPress 5.4 About Page: @karmatosed shared that many many folks contributed to the design and creation of the About page. Thank you to everyone that contributed. Testing is very much appreciated at this point as we prepare for release candidaterelease candidate One of the final stages in the version release cycle, this version signals the potential to be a final release to the public. Also see alpha (beta). 4 on March 24.

@jorgefilipecosta mentioned that there are two pull requests that are in need of review for 5.4 and those can be found at this link.

 @clorith asked if there was any additional information regarding the recent changes to editor default views and there is currently no new information outside of the discussions in the blogblog (versus network, site) post. 

Components Check-In

@azaozz had some exciting Media updates showing off the now merged 1.1 changes for the Lazy Loading Feature Plugin and said that he will be working on a patchpatch A special text file that describes changes to code, by identifying the files and lines which are added, removed, and altered. It may also be referred to as a diff. A patch can be applied to a codebase for testing. to introduce in trunktrunk A directory in Subversion containing the latest development code in preparation for the next major release cycle. If you are running "trunk", then you are on the latest revision. (5.5.) More to come soon on this much anticipated feature! If you’d like to contribute here is a link to the GitHub repo.

@audrasjb introduced some new changes to WP Auto Updates saying, “WP Auto-updates Feature PluginFeature Plugin A plugin that was created with the intention of eventually being proposed for inclusion in WordPress Core. See Features as Plugins. version 0.3.0 was released with email notifications for plugins automatic updates. Next version will be focused on porting all the current features to themes screen.” A summary of this chat can be found at this link. If you would like to get involved in contributing to this feature, please feel free to jump into the Feature Plugin GitHub repo.

@pbiron mentioned another pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party that could benefit from some testing; Core Sitemaps plugin is aiming for an early inclusion into 5.5. Please feel encouraged to test it ahead of time! If you’d like to contribute to this feature, explore the GitHub repo!

@aduth provided a #core-js update around their processes. He said, “In the #core-js chat this week, it was suggested to share that our weekly meeting summaries are now including a “News Roundup” of JavaScriptJavaScript JavaScript or JS is an object-oriented computer programming language commonly used to create interactive effects within web browsers. WordPress makes extensive use of JS for a better user experience. While PHP is executed on the server, JS executes within a user’s browser. https://www.javascript.com/. and GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/-related items, for those who might be interested or think it helpful to keep in the loopLoop The Loop is PHP code used by WordPress to display posts. Using The Loop, WordPress processes each post to be displayed on the current page, and formats it according to how it matches specified criteria within The Loop tags. Any HTML or PHP code in the Loop will be processed on each post. https://codex.wordpress.org/The_Loop.. “ A link to that can be found at the end of this summary post.

Props to @garrett-eclipse for the peer review of this summary. 🙏🏼

#5-4, #core, #feature-plugins

Dev Chat Agenda for March 18, 2020 (5.4 Week 10)

Here is the agenda for the weekly meeting happening later today: Wednesday, March 18, 2020, at 09:00 PM UTC.

Announcements

WordPress 5.4 Release Candidate 3 landed yesterday, March 18, as scheduled.

Upcoming Releases

The current major is 5.4; please keep testing for all the bugs. At the same time, trunktrunk A directory in Subversion containing the latest development code in preparation for the next major release cycle. If you are running "trunk", then you are on the latest revision. has branched to 5.5 as of RC1. That means 5.5 is officially in alpha.

Final releaseRelease A release is the distribution of the final version of an application. A software release may be either public or private and generally constitutes the initial or new generation of a new or upgraded application. A release is preceded by the distribution of alpha and then beta versions of the software. is March 31.

Components Check-in

  • News from components
  • Components that need help
  • Cross-component collaboration

Open Floor

Got something to propose for the agenda, or a specific item relevant to our standard list above?

Please leave a comment, and say whether or not you’ll be in the chat, so the group can either give you the floor or bring up your topic for you, accordingly.

This meeting happens in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#5-4, #agenda, #devchat