Test Team Chat Summary: 14 September 2021

The meeting started on SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. here.

Short explanation for first time attendees

@hellofromtonya reminded, that this bi-weekly meeting is where people who test WordPress CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. gather to discuss important things regarding test contribution. Testing includes manual testing, attempting reproduce reported issues, and automated testing.

You can find the agenda meeting here.

Week in Test introduction

@hellofromtonya described the purpose of this weekly publication, in short, it includes:

  • Parts of the core where testing help is needed this week
  • Learning and reading opportunities

Team agreed that it’s very helpful.

Last week’s Team update introduction

@hellofromtonya reminded that it’s a Team update, an overview of what has happeed last week. It also includes stats that are related to our team.

The Team agreed that the queue of the items that need testers’ attention is long.

Focal group updates

@hellofromtonya explained that it’s a time for testers to share updates for testing project initiatives. This section has started with:

  • PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. http://php.net/manual/en/intro-whatis.php. 8.1 fixes are underway
  • Modernization to Latest PHPUnit project is nearly finished. Backporting is next, then dev note
  • PHPUnit Test modernization is ongoing

@hareesh added:

  • The latest version of jQuery UIUI UI is an acronym for User Interface - the layout of the page the user interacts with. Think ‘how are they doing that’ and less about what they are doing. was recently merged to Core. Need a lot of testing.

Documentation strategy

@francina opened this discussion, asking what instructions we want to give. The main reason was related to setting up environment.

@hellofromtonya proposed to create a docs empowering everyone to contribution, we need clear entry points for:

  • Local machine setups
  • How to do different types of testing
  • How to create test reports

Team agreed that this documentation should be present in Make Test website, Make Core should only refer to it.

@hellofromtonya mentioned, that PHPUnit docs page lacks a reference to where contributors can set up their local machines. That should be a priority.

@francina @juhise @hellofromtonya agreed that the Team should start documenting the steps for Docker testing environment and later repeat the same pattern for other solutions. On of the concerns is that screenshot are getting outdated very quickly.

@mkaz shown blockBlock Block is the abstract term used to describe units of markup that, composed together, form the content or layout of a webpage using the WordPress editor. The idea combines concepts of what in the past may have achieved with shortcodes, custom HTML, and embed discovery into a single consistent API and user experience.-editor’s development site setup instructions based on wp-env. Team agreed that all projects should be pointing to one place where everything related to development environment is stored and maintained.

@hellofromtonya proposed a step-by-step instrctions of creating documentation for different types of test environments:

  • Start with Docker
  • Setups on Make Test with reference in Make Core
  • Figure out the doc info structure / strategy
  • Doc for different OS: Windows, Mac, and Linux
  • Link to tooling’s official docs
  • Get feedback from contributors
  • Refine
  • Repeat

@francina proposed working session with setting up environments. It’s going to happen on 2021-09-23 14:00

People with different OS will be essential for the successful meeting.

@boniu91 shared a reminder that on 2021-09-17 13:15 the Test Scrub is going to happen taking care of the following tickets:

#build-test-tools, #core-test, #test

Test Team Chat Agenda for 14 Sep 2021

Here is the agenda for the upcoming Test Team Chat scheduled for 2021-09-14 13:00.

This meeting is held in the #core-test channel in the Making WordPress slackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/..

Agenda

  • Week in Test: where you can contribute and learn this week
  • Review last week’s Team update
  • Focal group updates
  • Open floor

Open Floor

Do you have something to propose for the agenda? Please leave a comment below.

Can’t make the meeting? Share anything relevant for the discussion in a comment below.

Props: @boniu91 for peer review.

#agenda, #build-test-tools

Week in Test – 13 Sep 2021

Welcome to this week’s edition of “Week in Test”. This post highlights where you as a contributor can get involved (testers needed), learning opportunities, and some reading to keep you informed.

🙋‍♀️ 🙋 Contributing: Tester Help Needed

Looking for ways to contribute? The following tickets and patches need contributors.

Manual testing help needed

Who? All contributors (not just developers) who can set up a local testing environment, apply patches, and test per the testing instructions.

The following are tickets and patches that need testers to manual test and provide feedback (test report):

  • #53962: Check comment is approved before allowing replies – @peterwilsoncc asked for help testing (see Slack comment here)
  • #52241: Windows OS specific – infinite loopLoop The Loop is PHP code used by WordPress to display posts. Using The Loop, WordPress processes each post to be displayed on the current page, and formats it according to how it matches specified criteria within The Loop tags. Any HTML or PHP code in the Loop will be processed on each post. https://codex.wordpress.org/The_Loop. in clean_dirsize_cache()
  • #53429: Twenty Twenty-One dark mode (for 5.8.2)

PHPUnit tests help needed

Who? Any QA or PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. http://php.net/manual/en/intro-whatis.php. developer contributors who can (or is interested in learning how to) build automated PHPUnit tests.

The following tickets need PHPUnit tests build:

  • #47642: Order by comment count – posts list tables
  • #52241: Windows OS specific – infinite loop in clean_dirsize_cache()
  • #50567: Set $post in update_post_cache()
  • #49985: REST APIREST API The REST API is an acronym for the RESTful Application Program Interface (API) that uses HTTP requests to GET, PUT, POST and DELETE data. It is how the front end of an application (think “phone app” or “website”) can communicate with the data store (think “database” or “file system”) https://developer.wordpress.org/rest-api/.: Using _embed and _fields query parameters in the same query
  • #52252: PHP Notice when monthnum query var is set without the year QV

Reproducing reported issue help needed:

Who? Any contributor.

Since last week, there are at least 18 new tickets which need testers to attempt reproducing the reported issue and then providing a test report with the results.

Reproducing the reported issue is the first step in a new defect ticket’s lifecycle. Why? In order to fix a bug, first step is confirm the bug is reproducible and is due to WordPress CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. itself (and not a third party like a pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party or theme).

Documentation help needed

Who? Any contributor

Learning

🎙 This Friday at 14:00 UTC: come join the live working session.

Watch and learn past working sessions:

Reading

Props to @boniu91 for peer review.

#build-test-tools, #core-test, #testing-plugins

Test Team Chat Agenda for August 3, 2021

Here is the agenda for the upcoming Test Team Chat scheduled for 2021-08-03 13:00.

This meeting is held in the #core-test channel in the Making WordPress slackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/..

Agenda

  • Update on Test Team Reps
  • What do testers (like you) need?
  • Focal group updates
  • Open floor

Reading and Watching

A list of last week’s posts and live streams.

Posts:

Live streams:

Open Floor

Do you have something to propose for the agenda? Please leave a comment below.

Can’t make the meeting? Share anything relevant for the discussion in a comment below.

Props: @boniu91 for peer review.

#agenda, #build-test-tools

Test Chat Agenda for July 20, 2021

Here is the agenda for the upcoming Test Team Chat scheduled for 2021-07-20 13:00.

This meeting is held in the #core-test channel in the Making WordPress slackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/..

Agenda

  • Test Team Reps: Call for Nominations
  • Test Contributor and Test Team badges
  • State of the Test Handbook
  • Focal group updates
  • Open floor

Posts

Open Floor

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#agenda, #build-test-tools

Test Team Meeting Agenda for June 8, 2021

Here is the agenda for the upcoming Test Team meeting scheduled for 2021-06-08 13:00.

This meeting is held in the #core-test channel in the Making WordPress slackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/..

Blog Posts

The following posts are calls for testing (CfT):

Agenda

  • Test Badges Proposal: currently scoped for the FSE Outreach Program. Topics:
    • Does it apply for only this outreach program?
    • Should the Test Team have a team badge program for all testing activities including outreach call for testing programs? Or should each program have its own criteria and process?
    • Open discussion on the proposal
  • State of the Test Handbook
  • e2e setup with Jest + Puppeteer
  • Open floor

Open Floor

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Can’t make the meeting? Share anything relevant for the discussion in a comment below.

#agenda

Test Team triage meeting summary – June 1, 2021

The following is a summary of the bi-weekly Test Team triage meeting that occurred on 2021-06-01 13:00. A full transcript can be found here in the #core-test channel in the Make WordPress Slack. Meeting was moderated by @hellofromtonya.

Triage meetings are held every other Tuesday at 13:00 UTC. Reference to triage meetings announcement.

Announcements

Following links were shared:

Review of Action Items

@hellofromtonya shared tickets #34012 and #16773 are scheduled for testing.

@francina shared that she didn’t work on #39827 but it’s still in her queue. @boniu91 to send a copy of the premium pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party license for testing.

Ticket Triage

Ticket #13822

  • Status: ready for testing but may be impacted by new nav blockBlock Block is the abstract term used to describe units of markup that, composed together, form the content or layout of a webpage using the WordPress editor. The idea combines concepts of what in the past may have achieved with shortcodes, custom HTML, and embed discovery into a single consistent API and user experience. feature
  • Action: park this ticket and will reassess once new nav block feature is ready

Ticket #39589

  • Status: needs testing to reproduce issue with current WP version
  • Action: @boniu91 will test. Done
  • Followup: @boniu91 tested and found still an issue

Ticket #39603

  • Status: likely needs refresh, unit tests need improvement, needs performance testing
  • Action: @hellofromtonya will take this one

Ticket #31354

  • Status: not ready for testing as discussion ongoing (though stalled out)
  • Action: none

Ticket #12104

  • Status: needs a refresh and may need unit tests
  • Action: @hellofromtonya to comment on ticket. Done

Ticket #30499

  • Status: not ready for testing as discussion ongoing
  • Action: none

Ticket #25349

  • Status: needs testing but may not relevant today
  • Action: check if <!--more--> is still relevant

Ticket #40006

  • Status: skip as it’s awaiting review
  • Action: none

Ticket #37674

  • Status: skip as it’s a close candidate
  • Action: @desrosj will close the ticket. Done

Ticket #12104

  • Status: needs a refresh and may need unit tests
  • Action: @hellofromtonya to comment on ticket. Done

Ticket #31798

  • Status: needs consideration against the block editor and may not be applicable today ??
  • Action: none

Ticket #11477

  • Status: close candidate but followup items need tickets
  • Action: @francina taking this ticket to check if corresponding tickets were created

Ticket #40525

  • Status: needs a code review before ready for testing
  • Action: none

Open Floor

CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. 2e2 P2P2 P2 or O2 is the term people use to refer to the Make WordPress blog. It can be found at https://make.wordpress.org/.

@francina and @justinahinon raised creating a P2 to announce adoption of Jest + Puppeteer as the e2e setup for Core and need for handbook updates. This is a follow-up to a previous P2 by @francina.

Action: Create a draft for team review

Restart Team Meetings

@francina raised suggestion to restart the team’s meetings.

Team agreed to do these meetings same day and time but on alternating Tuesdays starting next week.

Action: @hellofromtonya to add to meetings calendar. Done

Action: @hellofromtonya to gather topics from team and create agenda for 1st team meeting

#meeting-notes, #summaries

Test Team triage meeting summary – May 18, 2021

The following is a summary of the bi-weekly Test Team triage meeting that occurred on 2021-05-28 13:00. A full transcript can be found here in the #core-test channel in the Make WordPress Slack. Meeting was moderated by @hellofromtonya.

Triage meetings are held every other Tuesday at 13:00 UTC. Reference to triage meetings announcement.

Summary

Following links were shared:

Started triage session using this ticket query report. During the meeting, this report was refined to this report.

Ticket #50683

  • Status: not ready for testing as there are no testing instructions
  • Action: @boniu91 will ask for testing info and add needs-testing-info keyword. Done
  • @francina observed that the reporter has been responsive when pinged

Ticket #37110

  • Skipped as no actionable changes for 5.8 to test
  • Action: none

Ticket #50924

Trac link https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/50924

  • @Daria noted that there are no “how to reproduce” instructions, steps could be determined by the team, and would want to confirm with the reporter
  • Action: @Daria will write up the instructions and then ask the reporter to confirm. Done

Ticket #50781

  • Status: not ready for testing as discussions are still ongoing
  • @boniu91 noted that the steps to reproduce are clear but that discussions are still ongoing
  • @boniu91 asked: should the needs-testing keyword be removed?
    • @hellofromtonya explained that removing it would mean losing the tracking to know the ticket will need to be tested when ready
    • Agreed to keep it
  • Action: none

Ticket #42140

  • Status: not ready for testing or testing instructions as discussions ongoing
  • How to tell? dev-feedback keyword
  • Refined query report to exclude tickets with this keyword
  • Action: none

Ticket #34012

Ticket #16773

  • Status: needs a refresh and unit tests
  • Action: @hellofromtonya took this one since its PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. http://php.net/manual/en/intro-whatis.php. version based, needs a refresh, and needs tests.
  • Update: Ticket is a duplicate and was closed.

Ticket #52050

Ticket #39827

  • Status: ready to test but …
  • @boniu91 noted it needs a premium pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party to test it
  • @francina asked if this is plugin territory and not coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress.
  • Action: @francina to check if they have a license to the premium plugin

#meeting-notes, #summaries

Test Team triage meeting summary – May 4, 2021

The following is a summary of the bi-weekly Test Team triage meeting that occurred on 2021-05-04 13:00. A full transcript can be found here in the #core-test channel in the Make WordPress Slack. Meeting was moderated by @hellofromtonya.

Triage meetings are held every other Tuesday at 13:00 UTC. Reference to triage meetings announcement.

Summary

Team planned to triage each 5.8 ticket marked as needs testing to determine if:

  • it is in a testable state
  • if yes, ask for volunteers to:
    • do the manual test
    • if needed, write automated tests.

Once the session started, shifted to discuss keywords and workflows for collective understanding.

Testing Keyword Combinations

Started reviewing ticket 37255 which has these testing keywords:

This ticket is not in a testable state. Team decided to discuss the meaning and usage of the keywords as well as how this team will know when it’s ready to be tested.

Discussed needs-testing keyword:

  • @hellofromtonya shared:
    • currently means => “it’ll need manual human testing once it’s ready” but doesn’t necessarily mean it’s ready right now for this testing.
    • can be added at any point in a ticket’s lifecycle.
    • Core Handbook defines it as: “One or more people are needed to test the solution”, but does not indicate when the keyword should be added.
  • Discussed removing keyword until it’s ready for testing:
    • @mai21 asked if the needs-testing keyword should be removed until all the testing details are added.
    • @francina added it “should be added only when it satisfied the has-testing-info requirement.
    • @hellofromtonya wondered how we’d know if a developer or maintainer wants the ticket to be manually tested if the keyword removed until ready.

Discussed workflow to know when a ticket is ready for Test Team action:

  • Discussed if a new keyword is needed such as ready-to-test
  • @boniu91 noted that “it’s pretty easy to sort the tickets in tracTrac Trac is the place where contributors create issues for bugs or feature requests much like GitHub.https://core.trac.wordpress.org/. using tags” and a ticket ready to test is noted as has-patch needs-testing has-testing-info.
  • @justinahinon suggested to make a P2P2 P2 or O2 is the term people use to refer to the Make WordPress blog. It can be found at https://make.wordpress.org/. post once the team agrees on how to add the tags/keywords

Team decisions:

Asking for testing info

@hellofromtonya shared the needs-testing-info script she used during 5.6 @hellofromtonya shared the needs-testing-info script she used during 5.6 and 5.7 cycles:

Please provide need more information to help testers manually test the patch (including at Test Scrubs):
– What are the steps to test?
– Are there any testing dependencies, such as a pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party or script?
– What is the expected behavior after applying the patch?

Team briefly discussed. Ran out of time.

Wrap up

Meeting went past the planned hour. @hellofromtonya wrapped up by encouraging further async discussion and Q&A.

Thanks to everyone who attended!

#meeting-notes, #summaries

Bi-Weekly Test Team Triage Meetings

Last week, the Test Team agreed to do bi-weekly test triage sessions. These meetings will happen every other Tuesday at 13:00 UTC (starting this week).

Next test triage meeting will be held on 2021-05-04 13:00 in the #core-test on SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/.. Come join to triage with the team.

The meetings are now in the calendar.

What is triage for the Test Team?

In context of bug repositories such as TracTrac Trac is the place where contributors create issues for bugs or feature requests much like GitHub.https://core.trac.wordpress.org/. or GitHubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/, triage means sorting, labeling, and closing duplicate incoming issues and testing means manually testing bug reports, questions, and feature requests.

Triage & Testing Issues in Test Team’s handbook

The goals are:

  • to evaluate where each ticket is in its lifecycle and what the next step is to get it closer to a testable state
  • when in a testable state, to validate the patch/PR works as expected and, if applicable, provide feedback on the experience

When is a ticket in a testable state?

There are multiple “testable” states in a ticket’s lifecycle including these (keyword shown in parentheses):

  • Ready to reproduce the reported issue
  • Ready to manual test the patch
    • State:
      • has a patch (has-patch)
      • is marked for testing (needs-testing)
      • has “how to reproduce” instructions, if defect ticket
      • has “how to test” the patch instructions (has-testing-info)
    • Trac reports: with all the above states || without the testing info
  • Ready to build the automated tests
    • State:
      • has a patch (has-patch)
      • does not have automated tests (needs-unit-tests)
      • has “how to reproduce” instructions, if defect ticket
      • has “how to test” the patch instructions (has-testing-info)
    • Trac reports: with all the above states | without the testing info

Props to @francina for peer review.