The Test Team helps manage testing and triage across the WordPress ecosystem. They focus on user testing of the editing experience and WordPress dashboard, replicating and documenting bug reports, and supporting a culture of review and triage across the project.
If you’d like to help test Full Site Editing, please join the FSE Outreach Program. You can find current calls for testing for this program here and you can join the fun in #fse-outreach-experiment.
The team gathers in #core-test. Please drop by any time with questions or to help out.
The previously monolithic “Post Comments” blockBlockBlock is the abstract term used to describe units of markup that, composed together, form the content or layout of a webpage using the WordPress editor. The idea combines concepts of what in the past may have achieved with shortcodes, custom HTML, and embed discovery into a single consistent API and user experience. has been updated to work in a more flexible and modular way by using child blocks. The new version is now called the “Comments Query LoopLoopThe Loop is PHP code used by WordPress to display posts. Using The Loop, WordPress processes each post to be displayed on the current page, and formats it according to how it matches specified criteria within The Loop tags. Any HTML or PHP code in the Loop will be processed on each post. https://codex.wordpress.org/The_Loop.” block, and it comes with new blocks that can be used as child blocks within it. These new Comments blocks allow users to define and change the layout of the post comments directly from the GutenbergGutenbergThe Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ editor.
This post is a call for users to test the new blocks that can be used to build a comments section in a page or post (following the block paradigm). The results of this testing will allow the contributors behind the development of these blocks to decide whether or not they are ready to be included in the next release of WordPress (v6.0)
Please report your findings either as issues on GithubGitHubGitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/ in the Gutenberg repository ,or in the comments below. If you have triage access, labelling any issue with “[Block] Comments Query Loop” would be very helpful. Alternatively, you can start the title of your issue with “Comments Blocks: ” to help those triaging the issues to label them appropriately.
How comments currently work in Full Site Editing
The “Post Comments” block is the block that currently manages a comments section on a post or page,
For example, the Twenty-Twenty-Two theme uses this block in its “Single Post” template
But with this “Post Comments” block no option exists to change the styles and the layout of the comments from within the Editor. This block uses the comments_template() function internally to generate the HTMLHTMLHTML is an acronym for Hyper Text Markup Language. It is a markup language that is used in the development of web pages and websites. for that section and the styles are defined via CSSCSSCSS is an acronym for cascading style sheets. This is what controls the design or look and feel of a site. files.
So, in summary, if you want to customize your comments section (change styles and layout) when using this “Post Comments” block you have to do a bit of coding
What’s new?
With the new Comments Query Loop block, you now have available a set of child blocks that enable you to customize the layout and styles of this section directly from within the Editor.
The new Comments Blocks that are available from Gutenberg v13.0 are:
Comments Query Loop: An advanced block that displays post comments and allows for various layouts and configurations.
Comment Template: Contains the block elements used to display a comment, such as the title, date, author, avatarAvatarAn avatar is an image or illustration that specifically refers to a character that represents an online user. It’s usually a square box that appears next to the user’s name. and more.
Comment Edit Link: Displays a link to edit the comment in the WordPress Dashboard. This link is only visible to users with the edit comment capability.
Comments Pagination: Displays next/previous links to paginated comments where this has been enabled in the comment settings in the WordPress admin
Previous Page: Displays the link to the previous page of comments.
Page Numbers: Displays a list of page numbers for comments pagination.
Next Page: Displays the link to the next page of comments.
The addition of these blocks to Gutenberg is just the beginning. With these blocks, in the future you will be able to create and share your own patterns for a comments section.
Testing Environment
While there’s more information below to ensure you get everything set up properly, here are the key things to consider with regard to your testing environment:
Use a test site. Do not use a production/live site. You can follow these instructions to set up a local installLocal InstallA local install of WordPress is a way to create a staging environment by installing a LAMP or LEMP stack on your local computer. or use a tool like this to set up a development site.
Set proper pluginPluginA plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party and themes
Have a test site using the latest version of WordPress (5.9.3 at time of writing). It’s important that this is not a production/live site.
Install and activate the Twenty Twenty-Two theme by going to Appearances > Themes. If you choose to use a different block theme, install and activate by going to Appearances > Themes > Add New and searching for the one that has the `Full Site Editing` listed as a feature.
Go to the homepage of your testing site and go to the default “Hello world!” post to check how the Comments section looks by default with these new Comments blocks. You can also create a new post by going to Posts > Add
Save the template and go to the post page to see your changes in the frontend (you’ll probably need to refresh the post’s page)
Repeat this process as many times as you want and take note of any bug or User Experience inconsistency you encounter during the process
Insert the “Post Comments Form” block to check the behavior of the Comment Reply Link and the ability to insert new comments
The “Post Comments Form” cannot itself be customised via the Block Editor as yet. There’s an issue open to work on this but for the purpose of this testing we can just use it as it is and focus the testing on the display of the comments
Go to the “Single Post” template and insert a “Post Comments Form” just after the “Comments Pagination” block
Save the template and go to the post page to see if the form is available from that page (you’ll probably need to refresh the post’s page)
Submit a new comment and check whether the new comment appears and whether the styles you defined for the Comments blocks are also applied to this new comment
Check that the ”Comment Reply Link” and “Comment Edit Link” work properly
Take note of any bug or User Experience inconsistency you detect in the process
What to test
So, what type of things can you test with these blocks?
This Call for Testing is mainly to check that these blocks work as expected, that is, the changes in the styles and layout work as expected without bugs.
But just to provide some guidance, here are some aspects we specifically would like to have some feedback about:
Styles and Layout
Try to replicate a specific design on your comments section and check that you’re able to implement that design using just the Block Editor. For example you could try to apply a Duotone filterFilterFilters are one of the two types of Hooks https://codex.wordpress.org/Plugin_API/Hooks. They provide a way for functions to modify data of other functions. They are the counterpart to Actions. Unlike Actions, filters are meant to work in an isolated manner, and should never have side effects such as affecting global variables and output. to the Avatar, or perhaps a two column layout with the avatar on the left and rest of the content on the right – let your imagination run wild!
AccessibilityAccessibilityAccessibility (commonly shortened to a11y) refers to the design of products, devices, services, or environments for people with disabilities. The concept of accessible design ensures both “direct access” (i.e. unassisted) and “indirect access” meaning compatibility with a person’s assistive technology (for example, computer screen readers). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessibility)
Check that the comments section is fully accessible in both the Editor and the Frontend and report any issues you find in this regard.
Discussion Settings
Go to Settings > Discussion and check that the different options are fully compatible with the new Comments blocks (i.e. that they work as expected according to the options that have been enabled/disabled).
Pagination Links
Test that the pagination links work as expected. To test this you’ll need enough comments for the comments to actually paginate. Comment pagination also needs to be enabled in the WordPress admin under Settings -> Discussion -> Break comments into pages
Thank you!
Thank you for helping to test these new Comments Blocks! With the adoption of Full Site Editing, bringing the power and flexibility of blocks to more parts of the page is really helpful in enabling users to customise their layouts and take full control of their sites.
In the spirit of improving the E2E developer experience, I’d like to make a case for migrating CoreCoreCore is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress.’s browser automation library to Playwright. I was asked to write this post after opening an experimental pull request, where I migrated a selected portion of specs to Playwright, making them available for running both locally and on CI. That happened some time ago, so there’s already been quite a bit of discussion going on there! Having said that, I’m going to try making the case again here, taking the feedback I’ve received so far into consideration. I also encourage you to check out the PR to see the implementation details and Playwright advantages in action.
Why drop Puppeteer in favor of Playwright?
It’s easier to write stable tests.
There are a few reasons why. Please read on to find out which ones I think are the most relevant for the project.
The APIAPIAn API or Application Programming Interface is a software intermediary that allows programs to interact with each other and share data in limited, clearly defined ways.
Playwright’s API is almost identical to Puppeteer’s, which means that the developer transition should be close to effortless. I think that’s a big factor here, as it significantly lowers the cost of this transition also from the migrationMigrationMoving the code, database and media files for a website site from one server to another. Most typically done when changing hosting companies. side. A good thing to start with! 🤞
Playwright performs a range of actionability checks on the elements before making actions to ensure these actions behave as expected. It auto-waits for all the relevant checks to pass and only then performs the requested action. (…)
I think it’s the number one reason for the stability improvement over Puppeteer. In practice, it means the following:
No need to perform any additional presence checks
Most of the DOM changes happen asynchronously, so in order to avoid flaky behavior, a test usually explicitly wait for an element before performing an action on it. A good example would be the most frequently used click action, which usually looks like this when performed with Puppeteer:
With Playwright, thanks to the auto-waiting mechanism it becomes just:
await page.click( 'button' )
No need to disable CSSCSSCSS is an acronym for cascading style sheets. This is what controls the design or look and feel of a site. animations
This is thanks to the stability check, which makes sure the element has a bounding box and is not moving before the action is performed. I think this is a major advantage because it allows to fully test the application, including the CSS animations, which are an integral part of the user interface.
In my PR, as a proof of concept, I removed the code that disables CSS animations and the forced reduced motion, which slowed down the refactored tests (21 suites) by around 37 seconds. This number will grow with every test, but judging by the current data it shouldn’t be more than a few minutes in total. I’d say the trade-off would still be worth it, but this can be discussed and decided upon later.
What do you think about testing without animations? Should they be enabled if it’s possible, even for the cost of extra wait?
Less code!
In general, all of the above comes down to writing less and simpler code to get the same or better results than Puppeteer. If you go to my PR, you’ll notice that there are more lines removed than added in the refactored tests!
With Playwright, the tests and test utilities are easier to write and follow, and the environment requires less customization (e.g. disabled animations) which actually makes it closer to what users are experiencing.
Are there any downsides to the auto-waiting mechanism?
There were some concerns about how this mechanism could affect the performance tests. Because it could potentially become a blocking factor for this migration, I decided to migrate Gutenberg’s performance specs to Playwright as a proof of concept and see what happens. So far, thankfully it looks like there isn’t much difference between Puppeteer and Playwright — the performance metrics are very close, which would be the desired outcome.
Do you think there could be any downsides to the auto-waiting mechanism? Please let me know in the comments!
The Advanced Selectors Support
This part has changed a bit due to some feedback received in the PR. Originally, I mentioned text selectors and layout-based selectors as the number one reason for making the tests and utilities easier to write and follow, as well as making them more resilient. While prioritizing user-facing attributes is still a good practice for most applications, GutenbergGutenbergThe Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ is a bit different in this regard. Apparently, CSS classes are considered to be the API there, so they change less often than the user interface. Nevertheless, as some folks noticed advanced selectors are still a big win as they’d allow to, e.g. drop the use of cumbersome XPath selectors and more with powerful selector chaining. Currently, with Puppeteer, CSS selectors can only be used.
The built-in Inspector is also a big advantage of Playwright. It’s quite intuitive and has some neat features like stepping through the script while running headfully or dynamically recording actions to a script — a really convenient way of quickly drafting the test. See the video below for a short demo of the script recorder.
Code generation with Playwright inspector in action 💥
Trace Viewer
Playwright offers a complete tracing solution. Trace can be recorded and stored in a zip file, which then can be viewed via the Trace Viewer GUI:
Viewing a recorded trace in Trace Viewer
On the image above, you can see that the trace is displayed in a form of a film strip. Each frame can contain Before, Action, and After snapshots visualizing a complete action execution. On the left-hand side is a list of all the actions Playwright performed. Each of them can be inspected in more detail in the section on the right-hand side, where you can switch between the action log, location in the source code, and the network log.
I think it’s great to have that kind of functionality out of the box. It also shows how Playwright is intended to be a complete testing solution. With Puppeteer, there aren’t really any first-party tools for debugging, as far as I’m aware – The suggested way is to either slow down the tests in headful mode with DevTools open or use the Node.js Debugger when running headlessly.
If there’s a goal to expand testing to browsers other than Chrome, it wouldn’t be an issue for Playwright as it supports all other major players: Firefox, WebKit, and Microsoft Edge. At the time of writing this, Puppeteer supports only Chrome and Chromium, and the official support of Firefox is currently experimental.
Playwright has a first-party test-runner, which is very similar to Jest test-runner (currently used for Puppeteer) but written from scratch. It contains a lot of end-to-end testing utils, tooling, concurrency, reporting, assertions, artifacts, etc., and extensive configuration support. Another quite nice thing to have without having to install and rely on third-party libraries!
I think it deserves a mention here, as it’s easy to navigate and really well written, in my opinion. Please take a few minutes and check it out for yourself at https://playwright.dev/docs/api/class-playwright – maybe you’ll find even more reasons to switch to Playwright? 😉
Writing good, stable E2E tests is often a struggle. If there’s a chance of improving that, especially with such a low cost, then it should be done. I would be happy to work on this task if there’s a consensus to move it forward.
Thanks for reading. I’m looking forward to all the feedback!
With the Go/No Go Next Steps outlined ahead of WordPress 5.8’s release in July 2021, let’s use this time to dig into any general questions you all might have around Full Site Editing! If possible, please focus questions specifically around WordPress 5.8 as those will be the most high impact to address. You are welcome to submit questions using the form below or to leave them as a comment on this post by May 12th:
Keep in mind that because, depending on the questions it’s likely that some answers might take the form of “people are working to figure this out and feedback is welcome here,” rather than a definitive answer. This is especially true for features/milestones that are planned for the 5.9 release.
Where will you share the answers?
I’ll share a recap post on this blog (Make Test). Questions will be grouped with corresponding answers for easy review. You can see what the outcome will look like based on the first round here. I will track down answers to every question and share my work as I go by creating a collaborative Google doc where people can help find answers or simply see how the work evolves. I very much welcome collaboration here!
While the main result will be a lovely list of answers, this collective effort will also be useful for future documentation updates and potential tutorials. Once the post is published, I will follow up via email with everyone who left their email and a question in the form. For anyone who leaves a question as a comment on this post, I will @ your username in the recap post so you don’t miss out too!
#fse-outreach-program #full-site-editing #gutenbergGutenbergThe Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ #coreCoreCore is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress.-editor #fse-testing-call
This post is a summary of the fourth call for testing for the experimental FSE outreach program. Thank you to everyone who participated, whether through testing directly or sharing the call for testing with others. It all helps! Special thanks to the following people:
It’s always fun to see how far people can take these tests in creating something cool without code. Here are a few screenshots of people’s creations that make me hungry just looking at them:
Here’s what a few folks had to say about the overall experience that’s important to keep in mind as you read the rest of this post:
All of this could be because of my inexperience with GutenbergGutenbergThe Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ the pluginPluginA plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party. I’m used to working with Astra and other blockBlockBlock is the abstract term used to describe units of markup that, composed together, form the content or layout of a webpage using the WordPress editor. The idea combines concepts of what in the past may have achieved with shortcodes, custom HTML, and embed discovery into a single consistent API and user experience. libraries rather than the coreCoreCore is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. blocks.
The most problematic issue is that what I saw in the editor was not what I got on the front end. I have played around with it enough to know in my mind what it might look like on the front end to make adjustments without previewing the changes. However, that is not the user experience that WordPress is shooting for.
Most of us were confused by the current UXUXUX is an acronym for User Experience - the way the user uses the UI. Think ‘what they are doing’ and less about how they do it. and UIUIUI is an acronym for User Interface - the layout of the page the user interacts with. Think ‘how are they doing that’ and less about what they are doing. of the full site editing experience. For some of our colleagues, this was the first time using the block editor for a whole day.
Repeated Feedback: Improving saving, desire for a preview option, and differences in spacing
As with last time, to better consolidate repeated pieces of feedback, this section only contains new bugs or enhancement requests while still sharing quotes that highlight how these areas continue to be a pain pointPain pointPain points are “places where you know from research or analytics that users are currently getting hung up and have to ask questions, or are likely to abandon the site or app.” — Design for Real Life. In this case, keep in mind that spacing refers to everything from differences between the front end and back end to enhancement requests around setting the width of various blocks. In general, though, it further underscores how the differences in experience between the editor and front end break the promise of WYSIWYGWhat You See Is What You GetWhat You See Is What You Get. Most commonly used in relation to editors, where changes made in edit mode reflect exactly as they will translate to the published page. currently. Thankfully, lots of work is underway to continue iterating on this aspect of the experience!
One frustration point was the ability to preview as others have mentioned (the live site definitely looked different from the dashboard preview). When I did view the live site, there wasn’t any margin or padding on the main headerHeaderThe header of your site is typically the first thing people will experience. The masthead or header art located across the top of your page is part of the look and feel of your website. It can influence a visitor’s opinion about your content and you/ your organization’s brand. It may also look different on different screen sizes. section but there was on the added column set on the top, even though both were set to full width. I tried changing that main header column width back to wide, saving, then going back to full width but it didn’t help.
Another thing I noticed was that some small changes, like adjusting the percentage width of the individual columns didn’t activate the “update design” button.
I click to Update Design. As there is not yet any simple way to preview on the frontend like we do in the Post/Page screen. I copy the site address url and open a new browser tab and paste it into the new tab to see the frontend. The frontend does not show any margin along the left edge.
I noticed along the way that the Update Design button was greyed out on occasion when I made some adjustments inside the Cover block and other inner blocks. I had to click into various blocks to get the Design button active again so that I could save. (This seemed a bit hard to track.)
The site editor makes it looks like there is a small margin all around the full-width header. On the site itself, this isn’t seen. I had set a background color for the full-width header which is edge to edge on the site, but has a margin all around it in the editor.
Because this call for testing required people to make great use of the Columns Block, it was also the focus of a lot of feedback from various participants. Overall, this feedback mainly came down to two interrelated areas: difficulty navigating between nested blocks and confusion around properly setting width. What follows are the new issues created as a result of this call for testing:
Testing was smooth overall except when it came to setting the Columns Block to full-width (both in the header and body of the page in the Site Editor). I was unable to set the block to full-width within the Block Toolbar settings. I was able to do this outside of the Site Editor on a fresh page though.
I don’t see an option for full width? Ah it’s under alignment. “Alignment” sounds like left/center/right, not the size. What’s the difference between wide and full wide? I don’t see much difference in the preview.
As part of this test, people explored setting various styles to customize their heading to their liking and bring to life the feeling of a restaurant. Similar to the complexity in navigating between nested Column Blocks, though, setting styles proved to be pretty confusing considering how unintuitive it was to figure out how to properly select and then style the section one wanted to. Tied to this, it wasn’t always clear where one could find the setting that would do what they wanted since various settings are spread across the block toolbar and block settings. In some cases, the setting to accomplish something doesn’t exist yet too! As more work is underway to add in more styling options and normalize block level controls in a more intuitive way, this is an area ripe for continued iteration.
This is global settings vs individual page template settings. It’s pretty confusing right now. I don’t know exactly where I would set universal global header colors. I would expect to be able to do that in the Template Parts/Header but I don’t immediately see how to do that.
I found I had to set the background color for my header 3 times, once for the index template (like in your video), once on the page home template, and once on the page template.
Discoverability of settings, not ideal. Some things are in the popup toolbars, others in the sidebarSidebarA sidebar in WordPress is referred to a widget-ready area used by WordPress themes to display information that is not a part of the main content. It is not always a vertical column on the side. It can be a horizontal rectangle below or above the content area, footer, header, or any where in the theme. (both in Site Editor and Appearance), other in the top toolbar. You had to find the cog and the Global Style icons to open more settings.
When you are new to this, you are really wondering if you need to find the settings in the list overview left sidebar, or the cogwheel right sidebar or on the block itself, all the options are all over the place.
Why does the column change size when changing the color in the settings? At least it definitely seemed like it happened that way. That’s unnecessary and unexpected.
As with every call for testing, it’s not just for finding bugs! It’s also important to hear about features that people reach for and find are missing. This section is a “catch-all” to cover all additional features that were reported that didn’t nicely correspond with a particular block or categoryCategoryThe 'category' taxonomy lets you group posts / content together that share a common bond. Categories are pre-defined and broad ranging.. This only includes new feedback and doesn’t include previous findings from prior tests:
Navigation Component doesn’t reflect what is currently being edited making it hard to know where one is in the site editing flowFlowFlow is the path of screens and interactions taken to accomplish a task. It’s an experience vector. Flow is also a feeling. It’s being unselfconscious and in the zone. Flow is what happens when difficulties are removed and you are freed to pursue an activity without forming intentions. You just do it.
Flow is the actual user experience, in many ways. If you like, you can think of flow as a really comprehensive set of user stories. When you think about user flow, you’re thinking about exactly how a user will perform the tasks allowed by your product.Flow and Context
Like the first design I was shooting for, I wanted my Navigation items to look like individual buttons, each with a bit of whitespace in between. However, the Navigation block does not currently support adding backgrounds to each nav item. Even if it did, it also does not have a horizontal margin setting to add the spacing.
Because this was a more open call for testing, not all bugs fit nicely into a category or theme with many of them being standalone problems. To make it easier for those working on full site editing to get a sense of bugs at a glance, they have all been shared here:
Deleting the first item in an InnerBlocks list with delete key causes an exception error. This was found specifically when working with the navigation block but applies to others as well.
This post is a summary of the second call for testing for the experimental FSE outreach program. Thank you to everyone who participated, whether through testing directly or sharing the call for testing with others. It all helps! Special thanks to the following people:
@courane01 for running the call for testing with a group of students.
Related feedback is grouped under high-level headings. As you read through it, please remember that feedback is welcome on the format of this post too.
High-level feedback
Here’s what a few folks had to say about the overall experience that’s important to keep in mind as you read the rest of this post:
Everything seemed intuitive for me (long time WordPress dev for whatever it’s worth). I recently did a site for a client in Squarespace, and I appreciated that everything was drag-and-drop and had blocks for all website sections. This full site editor gives that same experience. I think this will be great for empowering non-dev users.
I did a demo of using FSE in December 2019 at meetupMeetupAll local/regional gatherings that are officially a part of the WordPress world but are not WordCamps are organized through https://www.meetup.com/. A meetup is typically a chance for local WordPress users to get together and share new ideas and seek help from one another. Searching for ‘WordPress’ on meetup.com will help you find options in your area. Tokyo. It did “work” then, but felt more of a prototype — kind of alpha or even pre-alpha stage of development. But this latest version is much more smooth, less buggy, and get overall feeling that it has come a long way and shaping up to be a feature.
My main problem with this as a designer is that if we are building structure, don’t try to look like wysiwygWhat You See Is What You GetWhat You See Is What You Get. Most commonly used in relation to editors, where changes made in edit mode reflect exactly as they will translate to the published page.. If we are building design, then show it exactly. Current GB UIUIUI is an acronym for User Interface - the layout of the page the user interacts with. Think ‘how are they doing that’ and less about what they are doing. isn’t an overlay, so it is pushing the layout completely out of shape. So you get a kind of Picasso view of your website. You have to take a big imagination leap to trust that you are designing this website well. –
As you can tell, there’s a diverse set of reactions to this call for testing, which shows how far Full Site Editing has come and how much further it needs to go.
Adjusting column widths
Adjusting column widths was one of the most mentioned issues that came up as people tried to customize their homepage to their liking! This coincided nicely with an important PR that started as a draft at the beginning of this call for testing and has moved into an open PR with numerous iterations since. As @youknowriad mentions in the PR, alignment in Full Site Editing currently works in a way that’s optimized for traditional themes that provide their own alignment styles. Still, this approach needs to be reconsidered moving forward as it doesn’t allow for a true WYSWYG experience. This leads to the problems described below in comments from some of those who tested:
I inserted a 70/30 pattern for the Columns blockBlockBlock is the abstract term used to describe units of markup that, composed together, form the content or layout of a webpage using the WordPress editor. The idea combines concepts of what in the past may have achieved with shortcodes, custom HTML, and embed discovery into a single consistent API and user experience., then changed the alignment to “Wide”. The Columns block didn’t expand proportionally to fill the available space. When viewed on the front-end, the columns did display as expected.
We noticed with columns that we had to assign the width of the block in order for the height of the site logo to align with the site title. We want to expand the width of the body content without using a child themeChild themeA Child Theme is a customized theme based upon a Parent Theme. It’s considered best practice to create a child theme if you want to modify the CSS of your theme. https://developer.wordpress.org/themes/advanced-topics/child-themes/. to get closer to edge to edge layouts.
I created an image in the SidebarSidebarA sidebar in WordPress is referred to a widget-ready area used by WordPress themes to display information that is not a part of the main content. It is not always a vertical column on the side. It can be a horizontal rectangle below or above the content area, footer, header, or any where in the theme. that was wider than the column to see if there was any restriction on image width. When I went to view the page, the image had been resized to fit the column width.
Like adjusting width, previewing changes came up as a workflow people rely upon and deeply missed in this call for testing. This nicely echoes findings from the first call for testing, where people wanted to preview template changes and expands to previewing the entire site editing experience. Currently, a “Preview Site” option is under discussion here and this post is linked in a comment to ensure feedback makes it to those who explore this further.
I do not see how to preview the layout on the frontend.
Yes, but when I am done I don’t find a way to easily go and view my website. I turn off full screen mode and use the more classic view site link in the Dashboard.
There were so many inconsistencies between the site editor and the front end that there is little point in listing them all. Spacing was grossly off. I generally see that as a theme issue. I spent much of my time in trial-and-error mode, making an adjustment in the editor and refreshing to see the front-end result. Rinse. Repeat.
Saving Process: auto drafts, keyboard shortcuts, and more
In line with the last call for testing, the saving process came up as an area people were keen to see iterated. Whether it was mentioning desired features, finding bugs, or confusion around how to accomplish a task, this proved to be a robust area of feedback:
When editing, I expect CMD/CTRL + S to save my work. This works in a post/page editing experience. On OS X + Chrome, this prompts me to save the webpage.
I can understand why there is a 2-step process here, but every time I clicked “Update Design” it intuitively felt like I shouldn’t have to then click a “Save” button as well.
What if I want to save the template as a new template, Template Part as a new template part and not overwrite the existing templates? What if I decide not to save a template part? Can I revert changes by clicking an revert/undo changes checkbox?
Because this call for testing was more open-ended, this resulted in a wide range of general usability feedback that relate to the overall experience of building a homepage rather than a specific part of the experience. While these items can’t be easily organized and some were reported previously, they are extremely important to keep in mind:
I see that blocks for FSE are under “design” categoryCategoryThe 'category' taxonomy lets you group posts / content together that share a common bond. Categories are pre-defined and broad ranging. in the inserter, but I think it’s better to put them in their own category to avoid confusion with non FSE blocks.
I tried to insert a Post Tags block using the ‘/’ command but it didn’t appear as an option. I had to search and find the block via the block inserter panel. –
The problem with switching to this mode is that my toolbar-choice was not saved. Each time I returned to the site editor, I had to enable it once again.
I wish I could put a background image (also in the body of the page), but I haven’t found a way to do it, nor have I been able to set the headerHeaderThe header of your site is typically the first thing people will experience. The masthead or header art located across the top of your page is part of the look and feel of your website. It can influence a visitor’s opinion about your content and you/ your organization’s brand. It may also look different on different screen sizes. color different from the rest of the body.
Since this test relied on exploring Site Editing blocks, great feedback was given about the experience of specific individual blocks. To make it easier to go through, these issues are gathered in this section:
[Featured ImageFeatured imageA featured image is the main image used on your blog archive page and is pulled when the post or page is shared on social media. The image can be used to display in widget areas on your site or in a summary list of posts.] Allow Post Featured Image blocks to have a consistent height to easily get a uniform size.
I was trying to size the logo I added using the what appeared to be resize handles. but it did nothing I expected. Eventually I found that the block had settings in the right panel, but I had to look quite hard for this.
“It wasn’t obvious to me that the Social Icons block then needed to have individual social media blocks added. I couldn’t figure out why they weren’t showing up and looked in the settings and in my user profile to figure out where to add my social media links. I saw social icons in the footer and then clicked on the blocks and saw that the individual icon blocks needed to be added.”
To me, I feel strange to be told to upload a featured image for each post here. I assume if each featured image are set, then this uploader won’t be shown. Still, I think it feels confusing.
There is no way to set the size of the image output by the Post Featured Image block. The only way to get a uniform size at the moment is to pre-crop the images before uploading them to WordPress.
Have you ever experienced a particularly delightful 404 page? Maybe it made you laugh or it was built in a way that made it super easy to find your way back to where you needed to be on the site. Currently, this is a part of one’s site that can only be altered with code and provided by the theme causing many of us to be unable to add some extra joy into the universe with helpful, fun 404 pages.
With Full Site Editing though, this is now within our grasps to make our own. This test explores doing exactly that with the option to build a simple 404 page through template editing or to really dive in to make something unique. If you choose to get super creative, please share a screenshot in your comment so we can all marvel at what you’ve made. For inspiration, here’s an example I made:
Testing Environment
While there’s more information below to ensure you get everything set up properly, here are the key aspects to have in place with your testing environment:
Use a test site. Do not use a production/live site. You can follow these instructions to set up a local installLocal InstallA local install of WordPress is a way to create a staging environment by installing a LAMP or LEMP stack on your local computer. or use a tool like this to set up a development site.
Use the TT1 Blocks Theme. If you followed the first call for testing, you’ll need to double-check to make sure you’re using this theme!
Use GutenbergGutenbergThe Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ 10.1.1 (latest version).
Testing FlowFlowFlow is the path of screens and interactions taken to accomplish a task. It’s an experience vector. Flow is also a feeling. It’s being unselfconscious and in the zone. Flow is what happens when difficulties are removed and you are freed to pursue an activity without forming intentions. You just do it.
Flow is the actual user experience, in many ways. If you like, you can think of flow as a really comprehensive set of user stories. When you think about user flow, you’re thinking about exactly how a user will perform the tasks allowed by your product.Flow and Context
Here’s a basic flow to follow when testing this specific feature. If anything doesn’t make sense, just comment below!
Important Note:
While this call for testing is focused on testing a specific feature, you’ll likely find other bugs in the process of testing with such a betaBetaA pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. feature! Please know any bugs you find are welcome in your report for testing, even if they aren’t directly applicable to the tested feature.
Setup Instructions:
Have a test site using WordPress 5.7. It’s important this is not a production/live site.
Install the TT1 Blocks theme by going to Appearances > Themes > Add New. Once installed, activate the theme.
Go to the website’s admin.
Install and activate the Gutenberg pluginPluginA plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party from Plugins > Add New. If you already have it installed, make sure you are using at least Gutenberg 10.1.1.
You should now see a navigation item titled “Site Editor (beta).” If you don’t see that in your sidebarSidebarA sidebar in WordPress is referred to a widget-ready area used by WordPress themes to display information that is not a part of the main content. It is not always a vertical column on the side. It can be a horizontal rectangle below or above the content area, footer, header, or any where in the theme., you aren’t correctly using the Site Editing experiment.
Testing Instructions:
Helpful Hint: As you go through this test, you might find the List View helpful while navigating between content.
Exploring the 404 template
Navigate to the “Site Editor (beta)” view. This will automatically open the site editor to the template powering your homepage.
Open the Navigation Toggle and head to Templates > 404. This will take you to your site’s 404 page template.
Using the List View, select the HeaderHeaderThe header of your site is typically the first thing people will experience. The masthead or header art located across the top of your page is part of the look and feel of your website. It can influence a visitor’s opinion about your content and you/ your organization’s brand. It may also look different on different screen sizes. Template Part and, using the three-dot toolbar menu, select “Remove BlockBlockBlock is the abstract term used to describe units of markup that, composed together, form the content or layout of a webpage using the WordPress editor. The idea combines concepts of what in the past may have achieved with shortcodes, custom HTML, and embed discovery into a single consistent API and user experience.” to delete this.
From there, select the default Header Block that says “Nothing Here” and, using the three-dot toolbar menu, use the “Insert Before” option to add a block above.
Using your preferred method to insert a block, insert a Template Part Block and select the “New Template Part” option.
Open the Block Settings for the new Template Part block and, under Advanced > “Title”, add in a custom title. For example, “404 Header”.
When you’re done making the changes you want, select “Update Design” and go through the saving flow to save all changes. This should cause the new Template Part to reflect the title you chose.
Adding navigation and getting creative
From there, make sure your focus is still within the new Template Part and add in a Navigation Block. You can choose whether to create a new menu or re-use a previous one.
Add a few links including a link to a page that doesn’t currently exist. To do this, just start typing a title that doesn’t currently exist on your site. For example, “Help”. You’ll then see an option to create a draft page. Do this for at least one menu item. Remember to have fun with this!
Outside of the Navigation Block, add any additional blocks you’d like to in this new Template Part. For example, you can use the Social Icons Block, Search Block, Site Title, and more. Try to add anything that would help orient someone who got lost on your site.
From there, edit the “Nothing Found” Header Block and Search Block to whatever you’d like. You can then add in anything you’d like including images, GIFs, etc.
When you’re done making the changes you want, select “Update Design” and go through the saving flow to save all changes.
View your 404 page on your site by going to yoursiteurl.com/404 (replace yoursiteurl.com with your test site URLURLA specific web address of a website or web page on the Internet, such as a website’s URL www.wordpress.org). Notice that any items you added to the Navigation Block that are page drafts appear but are broken links. You should be able to still view the drafts since you are logged in as an admin. Note: this has been logged as a bug.
Return to the Site Editor and open the Navigation Toggle > Dashboard to view your wp-admin dashboard. Note: there’s a current bug that makes it so you can’t view Page Drafts meaning in the future this will be easier.
Publish, review, and share
Head to Page > All Pages and publish any that need to be.
Once more, View your 404 page on your site by going to yoursiteurl.com/404 and confirm any prior draft Pages now show up properly with correct permalinks.
Share your experience in the comments below or in GitHub directly. You’re welcome to run through the experience multiple times to capture any additional feedback!
If you want to take this further, here are some extra items to explore:
Try adding in columns to your content! Columns are a powerful tool and it would be helpful to get feedback on the experience of using them in a real life scenario with site building.
Create a custom footer template part to replicate the process of creating a custom header template part.
Deeply customize the appearance of the page with custom colors, font sizes, and more. Here’s a quick video demonstrating some of what you can try.
Testing Video:
This video shows the testing flow after the initial testing setup is in place. Of note, this video purposefully does not go into depth in building out a 404 page in order to keep it concise. Don’t let this stop you from getting creative though when you’re testing!
What to notice:
Remember to share a screenshot of what you created if you’re up for it!
Did the experience crash at any point?
Did the saving experience work properly?
Did the saving experience make sense when making changes to the Template Part vs the general content?
What did you find particularly confusing or frustrating about the experience?
What did you especially enjoy or appreciate about the experience?
Did you find that what you created in the Site Editor matched what you saw when you viewed your 404 page?
Did it work using Keyboard only?
Did it work using a screen reader?
Leave Feedback by March 23rd, 2021
Please leave feedback in the comments of this post. If you’d prefer, you’re always welcome to create issues in this GitHub repo directly for Gutenberg and in this GitHub repo for TT1 Blocks. If you leave feedback in GitHubGitHubGitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/, please do still comment below with the link. If you see that someone else has already reported a problem, please still note your experience with it below, as it’ll help give those working on this experience more well-rounded insight into what to improve.
Before diving into the testing details, let’s pause to talk about the focus of this call for testing. With Full Site Editing unlocking the ability to edit all parts of your site, there comes a need for new blocks to help facilitate the experience. You might have seen some of these blocks already! For example, there’s a Site Title blockBlockBlock is the abstract term used to describe units of markup that, composed together, form the content or layout of a webpage using the WordPress editor. The idea combines concepts of what in the past may have achieved with shortcodes, custom HTML, and embed discovery into a single consistent API and user experience. that you can embed anywhere and update automatically any time you change your Site Title.
For this specific test, we’re going to explore using a few of these blocks to build a basic homepage with a sidebarSidebarA sidebar in WordPress is referred to a widget-ready area used by WordPress themes to display information that is not a part of the main content. It is not always a vertical column on the side. It can be a horizontal rectangle below or above the content area, footer, header, or any where in the theme.:
Site Title Block
Site Logo Block
Post Lists Block
Post Tags Block
Navigation Block
Template Part Block
Think of this as a chance to both explore what’s possible currently to build something simple and as a chance to get more familiar with these new blocks. Eventually, these blocks will specifically be categorized in the Inserter as defined for Site Editing.
Testing Environment
While there’s more information below to ensure you get everything set up properly, here are the key aspects to have in place with your testing environment:
Use a test site. Do not use a production/live site. You can follow these instructions to set up a local installLocal InstallA local install of WordPress is a way to create a staging environment by installing a LAMP or LEMP stack on your local computer. or use a tool like this to set up a development site.
Use WordPress 5.6.1 and above (downloadable here).
Use the TT1 Blocks Theme. If you followed the last call for testing, you’ll need to double-check to make sure you’re using this theme!
Use GutenbergGutenbergThe Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ 10.0 (latest version).
Testing FlowFlowFlow is the path of screens and interactions taken to accomplish a task. It’s an experience vector. Flow is also a feeling. It’s being unselfconscious and in the zone. Flow is what happens when difficulties are removed and you are freed to pursue an activity without forming intentions. You just do it.
Flow is the actual user experience, in many ways. If you like, you can think of flow as a really comprehensive set of user stories. When you think about user flow, you’re thinking about exactly how a user will perform the tasks allowed by your product.Flow and Context
Here’s a basic flow to follow when testing this specific feature. If anything doesn’t make sense, just comment below!
Important Note:
While this call for testing is focused on testing a specific feature, you’ll likely find other bugs in the process of testing with such a betaBetaA pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. feature! Please know any bugs you find are welcome in your report for testing, even if they aren’t directly applicable to the tested feature.
Setup Instructions:
Have a test site using WordPress 5.6.1. It’s important this is not a production/live site.
Install the TT1 Blocks theme by going to Appearances > Themes > Add New. Once installed, activate the theme.
Create either three fake posts with a few tags OR use the demo Gutenberg content found here. Here’s a short video explaining how to set up this content.
Go to the website’s admin.
Install and activate the Gutenberg pluginPluginA plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party from Plugins > Add New. If you already have it installed, make sure you are using at least Gutenberg 10.0.
You should now see a navigation item titled “Site Editor (beta).” If you don’t see that in your sidebar, you aren’t correctly using the Site Editing experiment.
Testing Instructions:
Helpful Hint: As you go through this test, you might find the List View helpful while navigating between content.
Navigate to the “Site Editor (beta)” view. This will automatically open the site editor to the template powering your homepage.
Using the List View, see if the Query Block is present. If so, select and delete it. This is just a housekeeping step to keep things contained :).
Make changes to your headerHeaderThe header of your site is typically the first thing people will experience. The masthead or header art located across the top of your page is part of the look and feel of your website. It can influence a visitor’s opinion about your content and you/ your organization’s brand. It may also look different on different screen sizes.:
You’ll likely see a Header created for you that you can edit directly. Update the text in the Site Title block. Have fun with it! Some ideas to get you started: Pick a new heading size, change the content, or alter the block settings directly.
When you’re done making the changes you want, select “Update Design” and go through the saving flow to save all changes.
Open the Navigation Toggle and head to Template Parts > Select “Header.” This will show you an isolated view of just the Header portion of your site. While in this view, add a Site Logo Block and configure it to your liking.
When you’re done making the changes you want, select “Update Design” and go through the saving flow to save all changes.
Open the Navigation Toggle again and head to Template > Index to return to your homepage.
Once there, head to the Navigation Block that’s powering the menu in the Header (this is where you might find the List View helpful!). Explore the Navigation Block by making changes directly to the menu items or in the Block Settings to change the font, color, etc.
Using the List View, select the Header Template Part and, using the three-dot toolbar menu, use the “Insert After” option to add a block outside of the Header.
Add your content:
Add either a 70/30 or 30/70 column block. In the larger column, use the Heading Block to write “My Content.” In the smaller column, use the Heading Block to write “My Sidebar.”
In the larger column, add a Posts Lists Block and select the configuration you would like (Title & Date, Title & ExcerptExcerptAn excerpt is the description of the blog post or page that will by default show on the blog archive page, in search results (SERPs), and on social media. With an SEO plugin, the excerpt may also be in that plugin’s metabox., etc.).
From there, add a Post Tags Block to one of the posts displayed in the Posts Lists Block. Notice how if you add it to one post, it adds it to all of them!
Repeat the previous step with the Post Author Block before deciding whether you’d like to keep or remove either additional block.
Create a sidebar:
In the smaller column, build out your sidebar how you’d like! For inspiration, try out the Social Icons Block, Latest Posts Block, or a simple Image block.
When you’re done making the changes you want, select “Update Design” and go through the saving flow to save all changes.
Share your experience in the comments below or in GitHub directly. You’re welcome to run through the experience multiple times to capture any additional feedback!
Testing Walkthrough Video:
This video shows the testing flow after the initial testing setup is in place and is using Gutenberg demo content found here. Make the flow you’re on though with your own unique changes and adjustments!
What to notice:
Did the experience crash at any point?
Did the saving experience work properly?
Did you ever want to do something with a specific block that wasn’t possible?
What did you find particularly confusing or frustrating about the experience?
What did you especially enjoy or appreciate about the experience?
Did you find that what you created in the Site Editor matched what you see when you view your homepage?
Did it work using Keyboard only?
Did it work using a screen reader?
Leave Feedback by March 5th, 2021
Please leave feedback in the comments of this post. If you’d prefer, you’re always welcome to create issues in this GitHub repo directly for Gutenberg and in this GitHub repo for TT1 Blocks. If you leave feedback in GitHubGitHubGitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/, please do still comment below with the link. If you see that someone else has already reported a problem, please still note your experience with it below, as it’ll help give those working on this experience more well-rounded insight into what to improve.