Dev Chat Summary: October 4th (4.9 week 10)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from October 4th (agendaSlack archive).

4.9 schedule

  • Today is the Beta 1 deadline for enhancements and feature requests. All tickets have been scrubbed as of earlier today, any that are still open when the Beta 1 build process begins later today will be punted to Future Release.
  • Next on the 4.9 release schedule will be Beta 2 on Wednesday, October 11th.
  • 30 enhancements and features still in the milestone
  • Beta 1 build process will begin around Wednesday, October 4th 20:00 PDT / Thursday, October 5th 03:00 UTC

Gutenberg block data storage

  • Want to start thinking about and discussing how block data is stored. We currently (specially after allowing meta attributes) have a lot of ways to store block data, with different tradeoffs. It’s going to be important to communicate when each is appropriate.
  • This will come through examples and documentation, but generally such knowledge has also spread by core contributors doing talks and blog posts, etc.
  • As people start to look at creating blocks, there are various ways to specify attributes, and different ways things can be saved (static blocks, dynamic blocks, etc). A lot of the reason people used custom fields or meta attrs will be different as blocks allow individual attributes that are still part of the content.
  • If you have input to share on that, please join in #core-editor and their weekly meetings.

REST API Handbook

  • They are moving / have moved the REST API Handbook content to GitHub.
  • Once it’s deployed, the REST API handbook’s content will be managed in GitHub.

General announcements

  • @rskansing: I want to give a thanks to the security team for always being very nice and polite in regards to my many queries and questions

#4-9, #core, #core-restapi, #dev-chat, #gutenberg, #security, #summary

Dev Chat Agenda for October 4th (4.9 week 10)

This is the agenda for the weekly dev meeting on October 4, 2017 at 20:00 UTC / October 4, 2017 at 20:00 UTC:

  • 4.9 schedule
    • Beta 1 deadline for Enhancements and feature requests today
  • Gutenberg block data storage
  • REST API Handbook
  • General announcements

If you have anything to propose to add to the agenda or specific items related to the above, please leave a comment below. See you there!

#4-9, #agenda, #dev-chat

Dev Chat Summary: September 27th (4.9 week 9)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from September 20th (agendaSlack archive).

4.9 schedule

  • Today is the feature project merge deadline
  • Bulk of the code editor improvements already merged into core, along with the Gallery widget
  • Theme browsing in the Customizer and drafting & scheduling in the Customizer to be merged tonight or tomorrow at the latest
  • Beta 1 in next Wednesday, enhancement tickets due by then
  • Bug scrubs scheduled over next week
  • @joemcgill: Anyone wanting to rubber duck #21819 over approaches in the media meeting tomorrow would be good
    • trying to solve a UX issue with a broadly defined outcome and different possibilities include varying levels of tech complexity
  • @danieltj: recommend putting version info into At A Glance metabox #35554
    • @melchoyce: let's get feedback on this and work to a decision in the next couple days

General announcements

  • @azaozz: removal of SWFUpload #41752 needs more testing in the affected plugins
    • would be great to see how the fallback works in all of them, so please help test
  • @kadamwhite: The REST API team is having a bug scrub on Friday at 15:00 UTC, and likely another the start of next week (time TBD). We’ve got a lot of tickets sitting with patches that are pretty close, so if you’ve got outstanding REST patches to discuss hope to see y’all then in #core-restapi!
  • @johnbillion: if anyone is running PHP 7.2 (currently in beta) it'd be great to test trunk. Some fixes will be going in shortly to remove deprecated notices, apart from that it should be bug free.
  • @obenland: Since [41594], orphaned widgets will get merged into the inactive widgets sidebar on theme switch, instead of becoming orphaned. what your opinions are on removing the concept of orphaned widgets entirely, and just have them be part of the inactive sidebar?
    • pre-41594 they would be shown in separate Orphaned Widgets sidebars above inactive widgets
    • @melchoyce: Looking for someone to take screenshots or a video of this in action on 4.8 and on trunk, so we can compare them visually

#4-9, #bug-scrub, #core, #dev-chat, #media-widgets, #php7, #summary

Dev Chat Agenda for September 27th (4.9 week 9)

This is the agenda for the weekly dev meeting on September 27, 2017 at 20:00 UTC / September 27, 2017 at 20:00 UTC:

  • 4.9 schedule
    • Feature projects merge deadline today
    • Beta 1 deadline for Enhancements and feature requests next Wednesday
  • General announcements

If you have anything to propose to add to the agenda or specific items related to the above, please leave a comment below. See you there!

#4-9, #agenda, #dev-chat

Dev Chat Summary: September 20th (4.9 week 8)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from September 20th (agendaSlack archive).

4.9 schedule

  • 1 week until the feature project merge deadline, 2 weeks until Beta 1
  • Drafting and scheduling (#39896) has designs and is working through development
  • Gallery widget (#41914) is now available in the Core Media Widgets feature plugin, so please test that as we plan to merge it into core next week
  • Updating a plugin via ZIP (#9757) or drag/drop (#24579) is not getting any traction, so they will likely be punted
  • Review needed on #34115 to bring the ability to use oEmbed outside the context of posts
    • This allows the Text widget to have embeds in it, as well as to be able to remove the restriction on the Video widget to only show YouTube and Vimeo
  • Long list of Code Editor tickets that could use contributors
    • If you’re interested and capable with JS and playing with CodeMirror, #41873 is a great place to start
  • Any tickets related to goals in the 4.9 Goals post should be prioritized
  • Bug scrub post will be published with dates/times to scrub features and enhancements ahead of the Beta 1 deadline. If you’re interested in helping run a scrub, then please let @jbpaul17 know.
  • User testing needed on #39693, especially running it through a battery of theme switching tasks; the goal is to improve the “it just works” experience
    • Testing steps include installing a theme, populating sidebars with widgets, switching to another theme, and checking how the widgets appear in the newly switched theme
    • If you switch back to the old theme, the sidebar widgets get restored
    • Testing should be done when switching themes via the WP admin themes page, and also via live preview in the Customizer
    • Themes that have varying numbers of sidebars would be the key to test with. Switching from a theme with 2 sidebars, to one with 4, to another with 1, to another with 5, and so on.
    • If you want to have a public test environment set up with the patch to test, then please ping @westonruter

Editor update

General announcements

#4-9, #core, #core-editor, #dev-chat, #feature-oembed, #media-widgets, #security, #summary

Dev Chat Agenda for September 20th (4.9 week 8)

This is the agenda for the weekly dev meeting on September 20, 2017 at 20:00 UTC / September 20, 2017 at 20:00 UTC:

  • 4.9 schedule
  • Call for testing and contributors
  • General announcements

If you have anything to propose to add to the agenda or specific items related to the above, please leave a comment below. See you there!

#4-9, #agenda, #dev-chat

Dev Chat Summary: September 13th (4.9 week 7)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from September 13th (agendaSlack archive).

4.9 schedule and requests for contributions

  • 2 weeks until the feature project merge deadline, 3 weeks until Beta 1
  • These tickets need someone to contribute to them or else they’re in danger of not making it in 4.9:
    • Add nested folder structure deeper than 2 levels (#6531)
    • Add better warnings when you’re editing themes and plugins (even if they’re not active) (#31779, #41078)
    • Updating a plugin or theme via a ZIP file (#9757). Also, drag and drop uploading of themes and plugins (#24579)
    • Widgets: Default to “custom URL” in the image widget (#41629)
    • Customizer drafting/scheduling (#39896, #28721)
  • @westonruter: I committed CodeMirror to integrate with the Theme/Plugin editors, Custom HTML widget, and Additional CSS in the Customizer
  • @jbpaul17: looking to schedule bug scrubs, please reach out if you’re interested in helping
    • Component maintainers: Please confirm if you’re running scrubs for your component

#4-9, #core, #dev-chat, #summary

Dev Chat Agenda for September 13th (4.9 week 7)

This is the agenda for the weekly dev meeting on September 13, 2017 at 20:00 UTC / September 13, 2017 at 20:00 UTC:

  • 4.9 schedule and requests for contributions
  • General announcements

If you have anything to propose to add to the agenda or specific items related to the above, please leave a comment below. See you there!

#4-9, #agenda, #dev-chat

Dev Chat Summary: September 6th (4.9 week 6)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from September 6th (agendaSlack archive).

4.9 schedule review

  • 3 weeks until the feature project merge deadline, 4 weeks until Beta 1
  • Customizer improvements for merging Changeset drafting and scheduling has yet to kick off development, designs are nearing completion (see: #39896 and #28721)
  • Gallery widget is still under development but it seems to have stalled, TODO’s noted on related GitHub PR
    • @joemcgill to look into avoiding serializing attachments data in the widget this week
  • @obenland working on wrestling the widget mapping issue when switching themes (see: #39693)
  • Page on Front progressing slowly, likely not ready for dev before Feature Merge
  • Theme switching issue for nav menu mapping has already been merged in trunk (see: #39692)
  • CodeMirror feature plugin (aka Better Code Editing) needs testing and a few outstanding issues that would benefit from contributors. Plan is to merge this week.
  • @psykro to look into #9757
  • “Add Media” button in the Text widget great opportunity for new contributors
  • #35827 could use an owner and remaining items in 4.9 Goals post could use contributors to help land in the release

Editor update

Iterating in trunk

  • @matt: I’m fine with more iteration happening in trunk vs how we’re bouncing patches around Trac so much
  • @matt: I’m okay with parts of trunk being broken as we iterate in this phase of dev
  • @desrosj: Do we have an established process for reverting things that break?
  • @obenland: I think we’re not talking about “PHP fatals”-broken, but rather a feature maybe not fully functional

HTML5 input types for validation

  • @afercia: any thoughts about relying on HTML5 input types browsers built-in validation only?
  • @azaozz: used to be buggy, seems to be working properly now
  • @afercia: seems to me still premature to rely on required for validation
  • @afercia: looking to leads to make a decision as new browsers support policy
  • @asaozz: Worth some testing, especially on the “lower end”, IE11
  • @afercia: there are still CSS rules in ie.css for Internet Explorer 6 (and 7, and 8). Can they just be dropped?
  • @azaozz: no need of ie.css in my honest opinion
  • @azaozz: intention is not to completely break old browsers if they still work, but to stop testing in them
  • @clorith: concerned about users locked into older browsers, like IE8, and keeping option for them to enqueue scripts relevant to their browser
  • @afercia: I wanted to start the discussion about this as it relates to the new browsers support policy

General announcements

#4-9, #core, #core-customize, #core-editor, #dev-chat, #gallery, #gutenberg, #html5, #summary, #trunk, #widgets

Dev Chat Agenda for September 6th (4.9 week 6)

This is the agenda for the weekly dev meeting on September 6, 2017 at 20:00 UTC / September 6, 2017 at 20:00 UTC:

  • 4.9 schedule review
  • General announcements

If you have anything to propose to add to the agenda or specific items related to the above, please leave a comment below. See you there!

#4-9, #agenda, #dev-chat