X-posting: Site Health Check Project review at WCUS

Hosting Meeting Notes: January 2, 2019

Here’s a summary of the meeting in #hosting-community on Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 1800 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees: @clorith @andrewtaylor-1 @dws122 @desrosj @mikeschroder @fahimmurshed

This was a light meeting, with many folks still out following the new year.

5.0.2 and 5.0 Followup

@mikeschroder asked how things were going following the 5.0.2 release, with @clorith noting nothing major.

@clorith requested feedback from hosts that had delayed upgrades of 5.0 until the new year. If this is you, please let us know how things are going in the comments or in #hosting-community in Slack!

Communication and Decision-making Processes

@francina made a wonderful post on this O2 about communication and decision-making, sharing learnings from the Community team.

@mikeschroder requested feedback on this in the meeting. Some of the items listed are tactical, like posting/cross-posting updates to the updates O2, which can be done immediately.

Others are proposals that would be great to have feedback. Please read it and leave comments with your thoughts!

Feedback

Miss this week’s meeting and want to discuss the things chatted about? Please leave a note in the comments or in Slack!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, January 9th, 2018, 1800 UTC. Hope to see you then!

+make.wordpress.org/updates

On chats, video chats, recaps and decisions

During the last chat we discussed a number of possible changes to the group chats.
Here is my experience from the Community Chats over the past few years

Chats

Sometimes not a lot of people show up, but consistency is key.

Another tip: we shouldn’t assume everyone is familiar with what we do in any team so we start by making a short intro.
This is what we post, it fits what we do and how we do it.

Hello hello

We’re starting our bi-monthly Community Team chat now – react to this message with your flags so we can see where you’re all from!

For anyone who is joining for the first time (whether active or observing), this is a meeting where community deputies discuss issues that have come up, WordCamps/meetups they are working on, and generally keeping up to date on what is going on in this corner of the WordPress project.

Most contributors on this team are volunteers, but we do have a handful of people who are sponsored to do this work. Ask questions as you have them, but remember we are family-friendly around here.

We might discuss issues when meeting in person, but we make decisions on the community blog :slightly_smiling_face:

Video Chats

It was discussed to add a video call to the regular weekly chat.
The main doubt seems to be how to make the content of those chats available for posterity: Zoom has the option to record video calls and they can be posted on YouTube or WordPress.tv.
I will check if the Community Team has a paid account and will report back.

Chat recaps

Team reps should post chat recaps in the Updates blog.
For the Community Team I post them there (Admittedly quite late) and then post the link to the Updates post in the agenda post in the team blog. See example.
Another solution is cross posting.
Whatever we pick, it would be great to see the hosting-community chat recaps show up in Updates 🙂

Discussions and decisions

The Community Team is operating in full transparency, which means that we discuss in our blog all the issues that come to mind.

We are refining the procedure, also by trying to use titles that make it clear from the start what you are about to read. If it’s a proposal the title will be “Proposal: …”, if it’s an announcement “Announcement:…”, if we need to put a team together for a specific purpose or need help with a task “Volunteers needed:…”, you get the gist.

If action is needed, we set a deadline at the end of the post and mark it as “To Do” through the native O2 functionality. See example.

Finally, when you want to wrap things up – even to say “We couldn’t come to a conclusion but we exhausted the conversation – you can use the “Top Comment” function.
When you click to edit a comment you will see “Edit, Delete, Top Comment”.
This last item will

  • Color the background of the comment in green
  • Show it as a sticky comment on top of the others

This is a great visual way to see where you’re at, when scrolling through the blog. You can also mark the post as “Done” if you want to make super-mega sure that everyone sees it 🙂 See example.
If you don’t see this in the blog, you need to ask Meta to activate it.

X-posting: PHP Meeting Recap – December 17th

Hosting Meeting Notes: December 12, 2018

Here’s a summary of the meeting in #hosting-community on Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 1800 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees: @brettface @akpanpromise @dws122 @antpb @mikeschroder @boborchard @stevenkword @mclancy3 @dhsean @pbiron @javiercasares @clorith @andrewtaylor-1

Announcements/Reminders

There’s been great feedback on how both plans and how things are going with 5.0 rollout within the channel! Thanks everyone! 

5.0

The meeting started out with folks chiming in on how the WordPress 5.0 release has been going so far.

By and large, there has been much less support than expected after the release. So far, it’s widely seen by hosts as going well.

Users reporting issues seem primarily to be due to plugin or theme incompatibilities, with one host reporting confusion around Twenty Nineteen, which is being investigated.

@pbiron offered to make public and collaborate on a list of Gutenberg compatible plugins and themes that his team is working on. If anyone is interested, please comment here, or message in Slack!

There was discussion on documentation in general, that included @antpb pointing out that the Docs team has made a call for contributors for Gutenberg documentation, and later on @javiercasares offered to share a technical manual as a proposal for further documentation for the handbook.

WordCamp US

Many folks from the hosting community team met during WordCamp US. @brettface synopsized from the public notes made during WordCamp US contributor day. I love how the meetings were documented in real time and suggest taking a look at them to get a better picture of the discussion.

Mission and Direction

In general, a lot of the conversation was around direction of the team, and the best ways we can work together and invite others into conversations around hosting WordPress.

By the end, the group gathered came up with a suggestion for a new mission statement, with the aim of being more inclusive.

Work to improve the WordPress’ end-user experience across a variety of hosting environments through a combination of industry collaboration and user education.

What do folks think about that? Let’s bounce this back and forth a little, and decide on a new one.

There were suggestions to have a regular video meeting as an additional gathering to help with connections. What do you think about this? 

Another theme in the conversations I had was around folks that wanted to share information or data, but feel uncomfortable doing so publicly — or at least without anonymity, with one person suggesting a private channel for that use. I’m happy to anonymize any information for meetings if you feel comfortable, but does anyone have additional ideas to help folks feel more comfortable participating in regular chat and meetings?

Site Health Check

The hosting team met up with the Health Check / Servehappy teams to discuss direction and the newly announced initiatives to merge them during the next year and increase the PHP version requirement for WordPress.

The aim is to ship WSOD (PHP Fatal Error) protection and an in-dashboard PHP version warning for PHP < 5.6 in WordPress 5.1, planned for February 21, 2019.

You’ll start seeing the updates related to the above projects cross-posted on this blog so that it’ll be easier for everyone to stay connected.

See more in the notes.

Feedback

Miss this week’s meeting and want to discuss the things chatted about? Please leave a note in the comments or in Slack!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, December 19, 2018, 1800 UTC. Hope to see you then!

Hosting Meeting Notes: October 17, 2018

Here’s the summary of our meeting in #hosting-community on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees: @danielbachhuber @dhsean @ugyen @mikeschroder

Announcements/Reminders

Please review and suggest/comment on the hosting Gutenberg working document.

Gutenberg

There were only a few folks this week, but the meeting this week was focused primarily on Gutenberg, and going over @mikeschroder‘s prepared doc on hosting team asks/tasks.

@dhsean liked, in particular, the idea to provide instructions in the WordPress panel surrounding troubleshooting.

@mikeschroder will check in with folks on the final proposed UX with/without the classic editor plugin installed.

We briefly discussed plugin developer notifications, and when they were going to go out. These went out on October 19 (thanks plugins team!).

@mikeschroder has started work on benchmarking Gutenberg, which is one of the items in the document. If anyone has existing performance or benchmarking data, or wants to help with this, please leave a comment, or come chat in #hosting-community.

@danielbachhuber is going to look into the REST API questions in the doc.

During conversation about docs, @mikeschroder brought up the suggestion to coordinate with existing docs efforts for Gutenberg.

When asked about getting existing Gutenberg tests (including End-to-End tests) working on hosting automated tests running,  @danielbachhuber said he thought it wouldn’t be a lot of work to add them.

After a call for feedback for the quarterly update, “Prepping for Gutenberg release” was suggested as top priority and current struggle.

If you have any notes, comments, or suggestions to add to the doc, please do!

Feedback

Miss this week’s meeting and want to discuss the initiatives above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, November 7, 2018, 1800 UTC. Hope to see you then!

Hosting Meeting Notes: October 10, 2018

Here’s the summary of our meeting in #hosting-community on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees: @andrewtaylor-1 @daveryan @dhsean @ugyensupport @jadonn @mikeschinkel @mikeschroder @brettface

Announcements/Reminders

@jadonn posted a callout for ideas last week for new initiatives for the team. Please bring them to the meeting on Oct 24!

It’s time to update the community team on our status for the quarter. Please comment or message @jadonn or @mikeschroder if you have thoughts on these points:

  • What is the team’s one-sentence top priority right now (and what’s the ETA)?
  • What struggles is the team having?
  • What is one thing you are all proud of this quarter?

Gutenberg

The meeting this week was focused primarily on Gutenberg.

The team started out talking about rollout plans for Gutenberg, given the November release date announcement.

Those present were optimistic about Gutenberg, but concerned specifically about the launch date being right before the busiest times for eCommerce during the year.

Some hosts are planning to roll out the Classic Editor plugin to selected users or all users to avoid breakage during the time period.

Those present had consensus that a January release date would be better for hosts, users, and adoption of Gutenberg.

@mikeschroder mentioned that he was asked for a list of hosting needs from @pento and is putting together a document with concerns+tasks from the hosting team for Gutenberg. Please take a look/edit/comment.

@pento also requested feedback specifically around upgrade policies and concerns regarding handling of updates if a security update came out between now and 5.0.x. Please take a look and comment on the thread in Slack.

Feedback

Miss this week’s meeting and want to discuss the initiatives above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, October 17, 2018, 1700 UTC. Hope to see you then!

Hosting Meeting Notes: October 3rd, 2018

Here’s the summary of our meeting in #hosting-community on Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees:
@jadonn @mikeschroder @brettface @antpb  @andrewtaylor-1 @francina

Announcements/Reminders

@jadonn posted a callout for ideas for new initiatives for the team. Please bring them to the meeting on Oct 24!

Gutenberg

The team is still looking for more ways to contribute to the Gutenberg / 5.0 rollout. Whether related to the above call for ideas or separately, feel free to reach out to the team in #hosting-community if we can help.

@mikeschroder connected with @francina and @pandjarov about a user’s Gutenberg whitescreen issue. It looks to have been specific to that site, rather than the platform. Thanks for the details, both!

@mikeschroder noted additional availability for Gutenberg related tasks.

WordPress Hosting Best Practices Documentation

Per @andrewtaylor-1, documentation in a good place after the performance doc going live. 

Bumped the meta ticket for getting the PHP recommendations linked from the WordPress.org Requirements page.

Contributions and edits are always welcome on the GitHub repo.

Feedback

@andrewtaylor-1 is going to be at WordCamp Portland, Seattle, and Philadelphia, and @earnjam at WordCamp Philadelphia as well. Does anyone else have plans to be at WordCamps and want to catch up or cowork on community tasks?

Miss this week’s meeting and want to discuss the initiatives above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, October 10, 2018, 1700 UTC. Hope to see you then!

Bring your Ideas and Projects to the October 24th Hosting Community Meeting

The #hosting-community team is looking for new opportunities to enhance the WordPress experience for WordPress users! Hosts and others in the WordPress community are welcome to join the team at the October 24th meeting Wednesday, October 24th, 2018 at 1700 UTC. The team would also like to ask regular contributors and team members to outline 2-3 ideas for new initiatives for the team to work on.

The #hosting-community wants to hear all ideas, big or small, especially for projects related to or for improving WordPress hosting. Some of the team’s previous projects include:

New ideas and initiatives do not have to be limited to these kinds of projects. Contributors and newcomers alike are welcome to suggest any new initiatives or efforts that could improve the hosting experience for WordPress users in general.

Hosting Meeting Notes: August 15th, 2018

Here’s the summary of our meeting #hosting-community on Wednesday, August 15th, 2018 at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees:
@mikeschroder @brettface @antpb @danielbachhuber @clorith @t-rave @pdclark

Announcements/Reminders

  • No new announcements or reminders this week.

WordPress Hosting Best Practices Documentation

Gutenberg

  • @danielbachhuber asked team members to report back on adoption of Gutenberg.
    • @mikeschroder said things are going better than expected at DreamHost.
    • @t-rave said Flywheel has not seen much chatter about Gutenberg yet.
  • @mikeschroder asked team members to monitor any changes in resource usage on WordPress websites with Gutenberg installed.
    • @pento reported outside of the normal meeting time some instances of increased RAM usage have been seen by users who install Gutenberg.

Feedback

Miss this week’s meeting and want to discuss the initiatives above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, August 22nd, 2018, 1700 UTC. Hope to see you then!