Hosting Meeting Notes: Wednesday, January 15, 2020

This is the summary of both meetings in #hosting-community on Slack on Wednesday, January 15th, 2020 at 0900 UTC (0900 UTC Meeting) and Wednesday, January 15th, 2020 at 1800 UTC (1800 UTC Meeting). (Slack archive).

Meeting notes

@mikeschroder led the 0900 UTC conversation!

@jadonn led the 1800 UTC conversation!

Attendees of 0900 UTC meeting: @hristo-sg @Crixu @clorith @javiercasares @gtaniguchi

Attendees of 1800 UTC meeting: @amykamala, @jadonn, @Crixu

Topics

Housekeeping

0900 UTC

@mikeschroder can’t lead next week’s APAC meeting and is looking for a volunteer to lead next week’s meeting. @Crixu agreed to take over the lead for this meeting.

1800 UTC

@jadonn calls for volunteers to help with notes and organizing and leading meetings. If anyone is interested in it feel free to post in #hosting-community or DM @amykamala, @mikeschroder or @jadonn for more information.

We discussed about naming the meetings according to its target audiences. Current ideas are:

  • AM and PM Meeting
  • APAC/EMEA and EM/AM Meeting

Feel free to comment on what names you prefer in the comment section.

Open Floor

0900 UTC

@mikeschroder left some comments on the test runner and places to contribute here: https://wordpress.slack.com/archives/C3D6T7F8Q/p1579075230111800
Started some edits on pages in the Hosting team site. Most obvious is the header, where I added a list of potential places to contribute.

@mikeschroder also started to do some edits to the hosting team sites. Most obvious is the header, where he added a list of potential places to contribute.

@gtaniguchi raised again the importance to have multiple environments under 1 account for the php-unit-tests. Additionally, @gtaniguchi raised also the question regarding the need for nodeJS, grunt and so on for the tests as these tools couldn’t be installed on some environments and the WordPress Core don’t need them. @mikeschroder clarified that these tools are needed in the preparation environment and not the final testing environment. They set up a separate VPS that connects to the testing environment via SSH as the tools are needed to prepare the testing environment. Another option suggested by @mikeschroder would be to skip the building of WordPress each time the test is done. If such a feature is wished someone should open an issue for this on github.

@Crixu asked for the attendees of the contributor day on the upcoming WordCamp Asia 2020. Of the participants, @mikeschroder will join so far.

1800 UTC

@Crixu brought up an issue with some servers located in China which returned an HTTP-Code 429 while trying to get the latest package from wordpress.org. Leave a comment if you encountered a similar issue.

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, January 22th, 2020 at 0900 UTC. Hope to see you then!

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Hosting Meeting Notes: Wednesday December 18, 2019

This is the summary of the meeting in #hosting-community on Slack on Wednesday, December 18, 2019, at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

@jadonn led this conversation!

Attendees: @fahimmurshed @crixu @grafruessel @amykamala

Announcements

WordPress 5.3.1 Released

WordPress 5.3.1 was released on December 12, 2019!

WordPress 5.3.2 RC 1

The first WordPress 5.3.2 Release Candidate is available for testing:

WordPress 5.4!

WordPress 5.4 is scheduled for release in March 2020! Folks can check out the WordPress 5.4 Development Road Map here.

WordPress 5.4 Open Call for Tickets

Theres an open call for suggestions for WordPress 5.4! Feel free to submit a ticket with your ideas for WordPress 5.4, or if you’d like to highlight something for discussion you can comment on the open call post!

Hosting Team Happenings

2019 Meetings Concluded

This meeting was the last hosting team meeting of 2019! Thank you to everyone who has contributed and participated this past year! Meetings will reconvene on Wednesday January 8th, 2020! Happy Holidays!

Meeting Time Changes

Over the past few weeks team members have provided feedback in a survey regarding Meetings days and times. Thank you to everyone who participated! Based on survey results, the overwhelming majority are in favor of both meetings occurring every week on Wednesdays at 0900 and 1800 UTC, instead of the current alternating schedule.

Starting January 6, 2020, Hosting meeting days and times are changing. Both team meetings will be on Wednesdays every week, at 0900 UTC and 1800 UTC. Please note, there will be no more meetings on Mondays, moving forward.

Both meetings will share an agenda, and possibly share meeting notes. The hope is that team communication will become more inclusive, engaged and productive.

Open Floor

In an effort to provide more visibility into team projects as well as offer a point of entry for new contributors, @grafruessel announced that they made a Trello board for the hosting team.

@jadonn mentioned that it sounds useful, also stating that at the moment there are no projects to track.

@grafruessel stated that the German hosting community has discussed a trello board helping the hosting team become more accessible. In the start of the year the trello board can be more filled out, possibly starting with updating the Handbook.

@jadonn agreed that it’s time to revisit updating the documents, handbook and best practices information to assure those are current. The Hosting team hasn’t worked on it in several months. He asked @grafruessel to put together a simple example board or card for updating the handbook to demonstrate how it can be valuable.

@grafruessel will be starting that next year and may need some help!

Next Meeting

The next meetings will be in the #hosting-community channel on Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 0900 UTC and Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 1800 UTC. Hope to see you then!

+make.wordpress.org/updates

#weekly-hosting-chat

Hosting Meeting Notes: Wednesday December 9, 2019

This is the summary of the meeting in #hosting-community on Slack Wednesday, December 9, 2019, at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

@mikeschroder led this discussion!

Attendees: @crixu, @amykamala, @mazeheld, @grafruessel, @duchesscorp, @deb @javiercasares

Agenda

This was the Hosting Team Meeting Agenda for Monday December 9th, 2019

—Announcements—

  • WordPress 5.4 Open Call For Tickets
  • WordPress 5.3 Recap and Retrospective
  • Updates on Gutenberg
  • WordPress 5.3.1 Development Cycle
  • WordPress Development Roadmap
  • CloudFest 
  • Global WordPress Accessibility Day

—New Discussion—

  • Update List of Official Team Reps
  • Team Meeting Time Changes
  • Open Floor

Announcements

WordPress 5.4 Open Call For Tickets

There’s an open call for tickets for WordPress 5.4! If you have anything that has been on your mind for the next release, this is a great way to bring it up!

WordPress 5.3 Recap and Retrospective

Check out the WordPress 5.3 retrospective and recap!

Updates on Gutenberg

Many Gutenberg updates are on the horizon. Find out what’s new with Gutenberg here!

WordPress 5.3.1 Development Cycle

The WordPress 5.3.1 development cycle is underway and 5.3.1 RC2 is scheduled for release on the 12th! As always, testing is welcome and encouraged.

WordPress Development Roadmap

A development roadmap is available with with some tentative dates! More information found here.

CloudFest Hackathon

@crixu announced CloudFest in March, where there will be another Hackthon and a WebPros event! CloudFest is welcoming team member participation!

Global WordPress Accessibility Day

The #accessibility team is discussing holding another Global Accessibility Awareness Day! If you’re interested in participating, please leave your information here.

Team Discussion

Update List of Official Team Reps

@Mike mentioned that @amykamala has made valuable contributions to the hosting team and is on a track to become an official WordPress.org hosting Team Rep!

Team Meeting Time Changes

Meeting days and times will soon be re-scheduled to be more inclusive for APAC time zones. Team members are gravitating towards changing the Monday meetings to 0900 UTC on Wednesdays, the same day as the other hosting meeting. Folks can voice preferences for meeting times and days in this survey.

Open Floor 

WordPress.org/hosting Project Status

@crixu asked about the status of the /hosting page on WordPress.org and @mike replied that a response is pending from @chanthaboune on the feedback the Hosting Team provided.

Ease of Use – PHPUnit Test Suite for Hosters

@grafruessel and @crixu discussed the phpunit test runner; if it’s possible to make it easier to install, perhaps with a batch script. They will look into it further, and @mike added that the docs and open issues for that test need some work too. Volunteers are welcome to get involved!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, December 18th , 2019 at 17:00 UTC . See you then!

+make.wordpress.org/updates

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#hosting-community

Hosting Meeting Notes: Wednesday December 4, 2019

This is the summary of the meeting in #hosting-community on Slack Wednesday, December 4, 2019, at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

@jadonn spearheaded this discussion!

Attendees: @brettface @crixu @fahimmurshed @supersoju @amykamala @redituk @javiercasares

Announcements

WordPress 5.3 Recap and Retrospective

The WordPress 5.3 retrospective and recap has been published:

WordPress 5.3.1 Development Cycle

The WordPress 5.3.1 development cycle is underway! Here is week 3’s bug scrub schedule.

Gutenberg Updates

Big things are in store for Gutenberg this month, including a number of block changes and improvements! Check out what is coming next in Gutenberg!

WordPress 5.4 Open Call for Tickets

WordPress 5.4 is on the horizon! Hosts, Developers and individuals alike are invited to submit ideas for improvements, features and bug resolution for WordPress 5.4! More info found here.

Events

CloudFest

CloudFest 2020 is coming up in March! CloudFest aims to bring together web professionals and hosting providers to collaborate and plan for better serving mutual end users. More information about CloudFest found here! Check out the Annual CloudFest Hackathon and opportunities for web professionals! CloudFest has also provided a .pdf with more details!

Global WordPress Accessibility Day

The WordPress.org #accessibility team is considering organizing another Global Accessibility Awareness Day! Global Accessibility Awareness Day helps to bring greater attention to accessibility-related issues and projects in the WordPress ecosystem. Any hosts and individuals interested in participating may add their info to this spreadsheet to get involved.

Hosting Team Happenings

Official Team Reps

@jadonn and @mikeschroder have proposed adding @amykamala to the official list of team reps. @jadonn stated this proposal is “in recognition of the significant work she has done this year organizing and managing the team. She has taken an increasingly active role in team organization and running meetings. She already has been acting as a team rep for a number of months now, and [the #hosting-community team] would like to make it official.”

A number of meeting participants stated they support this.

@amykamala mentioned that she appreciates the support and has enjoyed working with everyone!

Feedback on this proposal is welcomed and invited. Feel free to comment here or in the #hosting-community channel!

Meeting Time Changes

A few challenges have surfaced revolving around the Monday 1400 UTC meeting dates and times. While @mikeschroder usually leads the 1400 UTC meeting, the meeting time occurs late at night for the APAC time zones. Additionally, the alternating meeting days and every-other-week schedule has lended to some confusion about what meeting is happening when.

In an effort to remedy this, the hosting team is proposing that:

  • The Monday meeting time be adjusted to an earlier time.
  • Both meetings occur on the same day of the week.
  • Both meetings occur weekly.
  • Meetings share a combined agenda and notes.

Hosts and team members are invited to participate in the conversation regarding what the best dates and times are for meetings!

@Crixu and @javiercasares both stated that Wednesday at 10:00 UTC is a good time for them and their teams!

Please feel free to comment here and in the #hosting-community Slack channel! Keep a lookout for a survey regarding proposed new meeting times, as well!

Next Meeting

For now, the next meeting will still be in the #hosting-community channel on Monday, December 9, 2019 at 1400 UTC. Hope to see you then!

+make.wordpress.org/updates

#weekly-hosting-chat

Hosting Meeting Notes: Wednesday November 20, 2019

This is the summary of the meeting in #hosting-community on Slack on November 20th, 2019 . The full discussion is available here.

Attendees: @jadonn, @antpb, @arslanahmed, @amykamala, @andreamiddleton, @grafruessel, @duchesscorp, @mpcube, @deb

Announcements: WordPress 5.3 Release!

WordPress 5.3 was released on schedule on November 12, 2019! This new release includes:

  • 658 bug fixes and enhancements
  • A new default theme; TwentyTwenty
  • 654 contributors, 9 focus leads and 12 weeks of development
  • Updates to all components
  • Gutenberg 6.9 with more releases coming soon!
  • WP-CLI v2.4.0

Some additional highlights that may affect hosts are:

As always, please refer to the Field Guide for a detailed list of changes in 5.3!

Community feedback by @mpcube regarding the Admin email verification page resulted in 2 trac tickets; #48745 and #48746

Annual Survey

You’re invited to participate in the 2019 WordPress Annual Survey ! Your feedback is valued and appreciated.

WordPress-based organizations are invited to promote the annual survey, as well! Thank you to hosts, businesses and individuals alike who are helping share this survey!

Post Release Testing

Folks are also invited to participate in post release testing for WordPress 5.3. Testing helps provide valuable data for fixes and enhancements. Those who are interested in helping with testing can find more info in the Handbook. Thank you to everyone who has helped out with testing and who continues to do so!

Call For Feedback

Your feedback on WordPress 5.3 is requested! Feedback provided can help make the development process more effective. Feel free to leave a comment with your thoughts!

Meeting Times and Days

The hosting team is interested in hearing feedback on the bi-weekly, alternating meeting schedule. What is and is not working? Would it be easier to communicate if there were a meeting for each time zone each week, instead of one every other week? Would a different time for the Monday meeting that better accommodates the APAC time zone be more inclusive? Thanks for sharing your thoughts in the comments below!

Open Floor

@grafruessel expressed concern for meeting notes coverage with the /hosting team and offered to help with notes! Thanks @grafruessel

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Monday, November 25, 2019, 1400 UTC . See you then!

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Hosting Meeting Notes: Wednesday November 6, 2019

This is the summary of the meeting in #hosting-community on Slack Wednesday, November 6, 2019, at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees: @antpb, @stevenkword, @earnjam, @amykamala, @chanthaboune, @tfanelli, @Crixu, @JavierCasares, @clorith, @Pandjarov

WordPress 5.3 Release Candidate 4 is Out

WordPress 5.3 is set to release on November 12th, 2019. Release Candidate 4 is out now for testing and offers many new improvements!

As always, please refer to the Field Guide for a detailed list of changes in 5.3.

WordCamp US

The Hosting Matrix draft was discussed at length during WCUS Contributor Day and comments have been left with thoughts around a requirement matrix. Thank you everyone that contributed during Contributor Day! @chanthaboune will be reviewing the document soon.

Daylight Savings Time

The meeting times remain the same: 1700 UTC every other Wednesday and 1400 UTC every other Monday. UTC time does not shift, however if your time zone changes with DST, you may need to adjust your attendance time to sync with local times after the DST shift. If anyone has any feedback on shifting that time, please leave them in the comments below!

Media Improvement Statistics Request

@mikeschroder recently asked if there were any hosts able to share support ticket statistics from before and after 5.3 being rolled out for failed media uploads with an ‘HTTP Error’ message. This will help to measure how well the changes to media uploads are working and what additional changes might be needed.

Open Floor

@tfanelli asked about HyperDB and is looking to know who the person is who would know the most about HyperDB and the status of the project as they have noticed a lack of activity over the last couple of years. If you know who might be maintaining that project, feel free to leave a comment below.

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Monday, October 11, 2019 at 1400 UTC. See you then!

+make.wordpress.org/updates

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Hosting Meeting Notes: Wednesday October 23, 2019

This is the summary of the meeting in #hosting-community on Slack Wednesday, October 23, 2019, at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees: @jadonn @brettface @duchesscorp @azaozz @amykamala

WordPress 5.3 Release Candidate is Out

WordPress 5.3 is set to release on November 12th, 2019. Release Candidate 2 is out now, is available for testing and offers many new changes.

WordPress 5.3 Highlights

@jadonn mentioned that “Requiring the JSON extension will allow the core team to remove a number of workarounds, polyfills, and other bits of code that tried to accommodate PHP installations that did not have the JSON extension. In relation to this, JSON is already one of the PHP extensions we have listed on the #hosting-community team handbook’s list of PHP extensions.

  • Some changes in 5.3 are aimed at improving the Site Health page. The Site Health page will report Should be improved or Good for the various tested items rather than display numeric scores. Additionally, Site Health’s recovery emails will now contain debug information. Core team has provided more details on that here.
  • There are numerous changes to media uploads and handling with 5.3. 5.3 automatically retries uploads and if that fails, serves informative errors instead of an http error.
  • WordPress 5.3 will introduce a number of CSS changes in WordPress admin, as well. You can see dev notes here.
  • In 5.3 a new admin email verification screen is introduced, that will be displayed once every six months for users to confirm their email addresses. The admin login page will have a “Show” button next to the password field for displaying the password.
  • Find out more about whats new in 5.3 here!

Daylight Savings Time

Daylight Savings time in the U.S. ends November 3rd. Should the #hosting-community meeting time be adjusted to accommodate the change? Feel free to comment here!

Open Floor

@azaozz requested help testing image post-processing changes in 5.3, mentioning that you “may need to tweak the test server’s php.ini (if possible) to make it timeout or go out of memory. More info here

Anyone can get started with testing by installing the WordPress Beta Tester plugin. Or, you can download the release candidate directly.

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Monday, October 28, 2019 at 1400 UTC. Hope to see you then!

+make.wordpress.org/updates

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Hosting Meeting Notes: October 14, 2019

This is the summary of the meeting in #hosting-community on Slack Monday, October 14, 2019, at 1400 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees: @codexdemon @redituk @mikeschroder

Team Agenda

The only agenda was to connect about WordPress 5.3.

WordPress 5.3 Testing

The 5.3 Release Candidate is out now, and has many changes.

As a couple of examples for testing, @mikeschroder pointed out that for upgrades, the JSON extension will now be required, and there have been many changes with regards to media uploads.

The field guide will be released soon, but in the meantime you can see dev notes here.

Open Floor

@codexdemon requested an update on what’s next for @antpb / the team’s work on the hosting page project. @mikeschroder wasn’t sure the exact plan, but asked async in the channel, and mentioned that he thought folks would reconnect around the time of WCUS.

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 1700 UTC. Hope to see you then!

+make.wordpress.org/updates

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Hosting Meeting Notes: September 30, 2019

This is the summary of the meeting in #hosting-community on Slack Monday, September 30, 2019, at 1400 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees: @mikeschroder @fahimmurshed @duchesscorp @erichk @danielkanchev @cybr @javiercasares @redituk @hristo-sg

Team Agenda

@mikeschroder posted the agenda in Slack, and folks can reply to it in Slack. The detailed agenda can be found here.

Team Member Announcements

WordPress 5.3 Beta Testing

Please don’t hesitate to report any issues found during 5.3 beta testing. Beta 2 is due for release this week. Thank you to all who have participated in beta testing and who continue to do so! Your contributions are valuable.

Feedback Requested

  • @afragen reported Site Health log to public file errors are still showing as a potential problem. Trac #47985
  • Please feel free to jump into the conversation on Trac #48116, regarding PHP extension usage tracking.

Hosting Matrix Conversation Continues

  • @antpb has created a draft of a recommended matrix for the WordPress.org/hosting page. Please feel free to leave comments or suggestions on the doc itself.
  • @hristo-sg provided some feedback in Slack.
  • @mikeschroder expressed support for the idea of building something that serves user needs.
  • @javiercasares mentioned that there was a Contributor Day at PonteWordCamp with 15 WordPressers. Feedback and conclusions can be seen here. Feel free to leave comments, as well. @mikeschroder mentioned this feedback might be worth some PRs for updates to the handbook.
  • @hristo-sg suggested that the project should focus on a particular audience.
  • Concern about traffic to the /hosting page was brought up, particularly regarding traffic trends and types of visitors. @hristo-sg stated that people who are new to WordPress visit the /hosting page most often.

Open Floor

  • Folks present thought we could talk about updating the handbook during the next meeting, and that this would be a good idea to do between now and when 5.3 is released.

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 1700 UTC. Hope to see you then!

#weekly-hosting-chat

Hosting Meeting Agenda – September 25th, 2019

Hello, everyone!

This is the agenda post for the meeting in #hosting-community on Slack that is scheduled for September 25, 2019 at 1700UTC.

Announcements

Feedback Requested

  • @miss_jwo has requested input from hosts regarding Site Health error logging, Trac #47985.
  • Please feel free to jump into the conversation on Trac #48116 , re: tracking PHP extension usage.
  • There were recently some unit test failures, and a resolution is being worked on. If you’d like to help, contact @earnjam.

WordPress.org/hosting Page

Team Agenda

  • @mikeschroder mentioned that the media team has been experimenting with having the agenda posted in Slack, and folks can reply to it, like this.
  • Any feedback on this idea is appreciated!

Open Floor

Anything else to add? Please leave a comment on this post! Look forward to seeing you there!

#agenda