Hosting Meeting Notes: July 17, 2019

Here’s the summary of our meeting in #hosting-community on Wednesday July 17th, 2019 at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

Here is the agenda from the meeting.

Attendees: @jadonn @brettface @fahimmurshed @amykamala @clorith @antpb

Housekeeping

On Note-Taking

The hosting-community team is looking for volunteers to take meeting notes to help balance out demands.

If you’re interested, please comment on this post, or message @mikeschroder, @jadonn or @amykamala on WordPress Slack. No prior experience or permissions are required and this is a great way to get more involved with the community.

On Meeting Time

A post about meeting times and the impact on having two alternate meeting times will be coming out soon! It’ll be posted to the team blog, and will be mentioned in meetings.

A number of changes were made based on everyones’ feedback about the visibility of meeting times:
• The Slack channel topic now has a link to https://make.wordpress.org/meetings/#hosting with the upcoming meeting times posted.
• Meeting times also now stay active on https://make.wordpress.org/meetings/ throughout meeting time.
• The meetings page was changed to allow filtering for meetings for specifics team and links were added for “add to my calendar” functionality

Thank you all for all of the suggestions for improving meeting time visibility and helping folks come to team meetings!

PHP Recommendations

PHP Extensions

Thank you to everyone who engaged in the discussion about PHP extensions! The conversation is pending closure, but any additional comments can still be posted in the replies here.

Minimum required PHP version

Thank you everyone who left feedback on the Site Health team’s post about the next minimum required version of PHP! Please feel free to share your thoughts in a comment on this post as the discussion continues. Conclusions of this discussion are coming soon.

Community

WordPress core E2E testing

WordPress Core has added end to end testing! The testing is emulates a human user scenario to identify potential problem areas and validate different flows. Hosts are encouraged to set up E2E testing and any contributions are values! For more information on E2E testing, check out the announcement from Core.

Call for #community-team Volunteers

The #community-team is looking for help reviewing the make.wordpress.org handbook! The goal is to make the handbooks more accessible and easier to use.

Volunteers are asked to dedicate 1-2 hours per week. This project completion date is projected to be in October, prior to WordCamp US.

More information found here.

WordPress User and Developer Survey

The WordPress User and Developer Survey is being updated! Please feel free to provide any feedback and suggestions, as well as find more info here.

Feedback

If you missed this week’s meeting and have questions or feedback, leave a comment on this post and share your thoughts! OR….Come join for the next meeting!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Monday, July 22, 2019 at 1400 UTC. Hope to see you then!

+make.wordpress.org/updates

Hosting Meeting Agenda – July 17th, 2019

Hello, everyone!

This is the agenda post for the meeting in #hosting-community on Slack that is scheduled for July 17th, 2019 at 1700UTC.

Housekeeping

  • The team needs help with taking notes! No prior experience is required. This is a great way to start contributing to the team!
  • Meeting times
    • Follow up post about the outcome of having two alternative meeting times
    • Members’ suggestions for improving meeting time visibility have been implemented

PHP Recommendations

  • Any final comments on the list of required PHP Extensions should be added to the PHP Requirements Check-in post
    • Conclusions on this issue will be reached soon!
  • Thank you to everyone who left feedback on the Site Health team’s post on what should be the next minimum PHP version!
    • Got more feedback or thoughts? Leave a comment on that post!
    • The Site Health team will be reviewing all of the feedback and will make a decision soon

E2E (End to End) Distributed Testing?

Handbook Working Group

Updates to the User and Developer Survey

Open Floor

Do you have anything else to add? Please leave a comment on this post! Look forward to seeing you there!

#agenda

Hosting Meeting Notes: July 8, 2019

Here’s the summary of our meeting in #hosting-community on Monday July 8th, 2019 at 1400 UTC (Slack archive).

Here is the agenda from the meeting.

Attendees: @clorith, @javiercasares, @danfoster, @aaroncampbell, @mdw1989, @pandjarov, @lightsoutdave, @amykamala, @fahimmurshed, @mikeschroder

Housekeeping

On Note-Taking

It would be great to have a rotating set of folks to take meeting notes so that no one person gets burned out, and so that when folks are away, there’s still someone to take notes for posting here.

If you’re interested, please comment on this post, or send @mike on WordPress Slack a message, and we’ll get a rotation set up! You don’t need any prior experience or permissions for writing on the site; this is a great way to get more involved with the team.

On Meeting Time

@mikeschroder noted that there’s still a post to come on metrics from meeting times. So far, it looks like there are about the same amount of attendees at the meetings, but with additional folks that weren’t able to attend before.

This is great! There has, however, been confusion about when the team is meeting each week.

Folks suggested:

PHP Recommendations

Extensions

Conclusions coming soon from the discussions around PHP extension recommendations. Please add any feedback on this post.

Versions

The Site Health team has requested feedback from the hosting team on how to set the recommendations for Site Health in the future.

There was discussion lead by @clorith on whether/the best way to test how recommending PHP versions affects new version adoption.

@clorith noted that the team would be taking all of the feedback and making a decision on the version bump soon.

Feedback

If you missed this week’s meeting and have questions or feedback, leave a comment on this post and share your thoughts! OR….Come join for the next meeting!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 at 1700 UTC. Hope to see you then!

+make.wordpress.org/updates

X-post: Updates to the WordPress User & Developer Survey

X-comment from +make.wordpress.org/updates: Comment on Updates to the WordPress User & Developer Survey

Hosting Meeting Agenda – July 8th, 2019

Hello, everyone!

This is the agenda post for the meeting in #hosting-community on Slack that is scheduled for July 9th, 2019 at 1400UTC.

Housekeeping

  • Call for folks to take synopsis notes for this and future meetings.
  • Quick meeting time note about followup post.

PHP Recommendations

E2E (End to End) Distributed Testing?

Core now has end to end tests! Connect on expanding this to work on the hosting team distributed tests.

Open Floor

Do you have anything else to add? Please leave a comment on this post! Look forward to seeing you there!

#agenda

Hosting Meeting Agenda – July 3rd, 2019

Hello, everyone!

This is the agenda post for the meeting in #hosting-community on Slack that will happen on July 3rd, 2019 at 1700UTC.

PHP Extensions

PHP Minimum Version

WordPress 5.2.2

  • Update released on June 18th to general public
  • Contains primarily bug fixes but also contains a fix for: Site Health: Make site health page access be filterable

Open Floor

Do you have anything else to add? Please leave a comment on this post! Look forward to seeing you there!

#agenda

What should the next PHP version recommendation be?

Hi All,

It’s been 8 weeks since the minimum required PHP version for WordPress was increased from PHP 5.2 to PHP 5.6.

Before we increase the minimum required PHP version again, we would like to trigger the servehappy warning banner to sites running on one of the end of life (EOL) copies of PHP. Before we can do that, we need to understand the impact the next PHP version recommendation would have on the users.

This is where the Hosting Team guidance would be awesome! Any feedback on the following three questions would be great.

  1. How has the PHP minimum requirement bump affected you?
  2. What should the next PHP minimum recommendation be and why?
  3. What common issues do you foresee having with the sites that you host with the next PHP bump?
— Edit: Adding a 4th question: What versions of PHP should we target with a servehappy warning banner? These are not minimum requirements but encouragements to get people to be proactive and bump their PHP version before the minimum requirement bump happens. #site-health

Hosting Meeting Notes: June 24th, 2019

Here’s the summary of our meeting in #hosting-community on Monday June 24th, 2019 at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

Here is the agenda for the meeting.

Attendees: @abdullahramzan @mehul0810 @redituk @JavierCasares @Mike @amykamala

Continued Discussion on Auditing PHP Extensions

An audit of the list of recommend PHP extensions in the Hosting Community handbook has been ongoing. Thanks to all who have participated! Some details being discussed are:

• Should the Hosting Handbook recommend extensions beyond what core requires?
• Should Site Health Check recommend extensions beyond what core requires?
• Where should requirements and recommendations for core be located?
• What changes would you recommend making to the current list?

Contrary to the sentiment during Wednesday’s meeting, the consensus in today’s meeting is that core should provide information on core requirements only, and not extend beyond that. Some points are:

• Providing recommendations can add more work for core developers and may complicate things.

• Plugins and themes can make recommendations for additional extensions if need be.

• Providing the list of required extensions in the handbook is sufficient.

Question: Would it be prudent to put a call out to hosts to provide a list of modules installed in their systems to help determine what extensions can and can not be used?

Trac ticket #47454 was filed in relation to the PHP extensions audit. Feel free to add to the Trac ticket and continue the discussion here:

Hosts are also encouraged to participate in PHP Unit Testing to help assure compatibility and preemptively resolve conflicts and errors:

WordCamp EU and Contributor Day!

WordCamp Europe was on June 20-22 and June 20th was Contributor Day! Thank you to all participants! More info found here

@Mike reported from WCEU that this talk on Security, by @smitka, is worth viewing once available:

WordCamp talks from all over the globe can be seen on https://wordpress.tv/

Feedback

If you missed this week’s meeting and have questions or feedback, leave a comment on this post and share your thoughts! OR….Come join for the next meeting!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, July 3rd, 2019 at 1700 UTC. Hope to see you then!

Hosting Meeting Notes: June 19th, 2019

Here’s the summary of our meeting in #hosting-community on Wednesday June 19th, 2019 at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

Here is the agenda for the meeting.

Attendees: @jadonn @fahimmurshed @earnjam @francina @amykamala

PHP Extensions Audit Continues

The Hosting Community team has been asked to audit the list of recommend PHP extensions in the Hosting Community handbook. Thank you to everyone who has participated! Some details being discussed are:

• Should the Hosting Handbook recommend extensions beyond what core requires?
• Should Site Health Check recommend extensions beyond what core requires?
• Where should requirements and recommendations for core be located?
• What changes would you recommend making to the current list?

Some hosts mentioned that offering both a list of required extensions as well as recommended ones would be useful, provided that it is made clear what is required and what is not.

Some ideas are:

• Info on PHP extensions could be provided as a phpinfo page under Site Health – > Info in wp-admin.

• An alert in wp-admin could notify users if a required extension is missing.

• List extensions both required and recommended in the handbook for reference.

Trac ticket #47454 was filed in relation to the PHP extensions audit. Feel free to add to the Trac ticket and continue the discussion here:

WCEU and Contributor Day

WordCamp Europe is happening June 20-22! More info found here

June 20th is Contributor Day! Thank you to all participants!

Feedback

If you missed this week’s meeting and have questions or feedback, leave a comment on this post and share your thoughts! OR….Come join for the next meeting!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Monday, June 24th, 2019 at 1400 UTC. Hope to see you then!

Hosting Meeting Agenda – June 19th, 2019

Hello, everyone!

This is the agenda post for the meeting in #hosting-community on Slack that will happen on June 19th, 2019 at 1700UTC.

Housekeeping

PHP Extensions

  • @mikeschroder wrote a post on the team blog about the discussions regarding PHP Extensions
    • Please leave feedback in a comment on that post about the following four main questions:
      • Should the Hosting Handbook recommend extensions beyond what core requires?
      • Should Site Health Check recommend extensions beyond what core requires?
      • Where should requirements and recommendations for core be located?
      • What changes would you recommend making to the current list?
    • The post has more background information about the discussions the team has been having around the PHP Extensions list on the Hosting Community handbook

WordCamp Europe

Open Floor

Do you have anything else to add? Please leave a comment on this post! Look forward to seeing you there!

#agenda