Hosting Chat Recap: Wednesday, August 19, 2020

Here’s the summary of our meetings in #hosting-community on Wednesday, August 19, 2020 at 0900 UTC and on Wednesday, August 19, 2020 at 1800 UTC. (Slack archive).

The meetings were led by @mikeschroder and @jadonn. Notes taken by @Crixu.

Attendees: @chaion07, @clorith, @hristo-sg

Agenda

## Greetings
Welcome and Check-in
New Contributor Call Out

## Highlights
WordPress 5.5 Check-in

## Hosting Team Time
WordCamp US / 24 Hour Contributor Day

## Open Floor / Work Time

Highlights

WordPress 5.5 Check-in

During the meeting on Wednesday, August 12, 2020 some issues were raised which appeared with the release of WordPress 5.5. This week we checked back with the hosting team members to see if they got solved and if new ones appeared. @mike brought up the following issues:
https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/51011

In general it looks like the removal of jQuery Migrate was a bigger deal then expected.

As a reminder, the support team is maintaining a “Read first” list here:

Hosting Team Time

WordCampWordCamp WordCamps are casual, locally-organized conferences covering everything related to WordPress. They're one of the places where the WordPress community comes together to teach one another what they’ve learned throughout the year and share the joy. Learn more. US / 24 Hour Contributor DayContributor Day Contributor Days are standalone days, frequently held before or after WordCamps but they can also happen at any time. They are events where people get together to work on various areas of https://make.wordpress.org/ There are many teams that people can participate in, each with a different focus. https://2017.us.wordcamp.org/contributor-day/ https://make.wordpress.org/support/handbook/getting-started/getting-started-at-a-contributor-day/.

WordCamp US 2020 won’t take place as planned before but the team is looking into an 24 hour online Contributor Day. Last week we saw a few people raising their hands to volunteer, help, or simply attend. If you want to join the hosting team on the 24h CD drop by the slackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. channel 🙂

Open floor

As the Servehappy recommendation for PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. http://php.net/manual/en/intro-whatis.php. versions was moved forward, @clorith asked the attendees on how they are dealing with PHP version migrations.

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Hosting Chat Recap: Wednesday, August 26, 2020

Here’s the summary of our meetings in #hosting-community on Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 09:00 UTC (Slack archive) and on Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 1800 UTC (Slack archive).

The meetings were led by @mikeschroder and @jadonn. Notes taken by @javiercasares.

Attendees: @chaion07, @Crixu, Mark Muyskens, @amykamala, @piotrekkaminski, @davidvee, @asmartbear

Agenda

## Greetings
Welcome and Check-in
New Contributor Call Out

## Highlights
Call for volunteers for WP a11y day
WordPress 5.6 Kickoff
Apple, Google, and Mozilla SSL/TLS certificate policy changes
Learn WordPress is Live

## Hosting Team Time
Dropping support for old PHP versions in a fixed schedule

## Open Floor / Work Time

Highlights

Call for volunteers for WP a11yAccessibility Accessibility (commonly shortened to a11y) refers to the design of products, devices, services, or environments for people with disabilities. The concept of accessible design ensures both “direct access” (i.e. unassisted) and “indirect access” meaning compatibility with a person’s assistive technology (for example, computer screen readers). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessibility) day

There’s a call for volunteers open for WordPress a11y day!

@mikeschroder invites everyone from the team to join.

The event itself will be for 24 hours, and held on Friday, October 2, 2020.

WordPress 5.6 Kickoff

WordPress 5.6 kicked off last week, and is the final release of the year for WordPress. It is currently scheduled for release on December 8th, 2020.

@mikeschroder encourage everyone to give it a read.

Apple, Google, and Mozilla SSLSSL Secure Socket Layer - Encryption from the server to the browser and back. Prevents prying eyes from seeing what you are sending between your browser and the server./TLS certificate policy changes

It was said that commercial certificates usually are for 1 year, and Let’s Encrypt for 3 months, and the main concern is for internal or service organization certificates.

Learn WordPress is Live

Community and Training teams have launched a new platform for online learning for WordPress – Learn WordPress!

Hosting Team Time

Dropping support for old PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. http://php.net/manual/en/intro-whatis.php. versions in a fixed schedule

On July 24, the coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. team brought up a proposal to drop the support for older PHP versions via a fixed schedule.

There have been several proposals and comments. Premises and data that have come to light (context):

  • PHP: bump minimum version requirements #51043
  • Key WordPress Statistics
  • A lot of hosts give from PHP 5.4 to PHP 7.4 (at least, from PHP 5.6 to PHP 7.4)
  • One thing is core, and another are plugins and themes
  • Plugins and themes may need a “tested up to” PHP version #51139

Mark Muyskens has explained that he is against a fixed schedule. “Too many folks out there drag their feet as far as updating it, unless forced by the host. What do propose when a customer doesn’t switch off PHP 5 for example when support is dropped? Blocking core updates? That’s going to lead to other larger problems.”

@javiercasares made a lot of proposals. First, WordPress should be in line with PHP (those are example on how it should be on older versions):

WordPress 5.6 = PHP 8.0 (dec 2020) -> supports PHP 8.0 – 7.2
WordPress 5.3 = PHP 7.4 (dec 2019) -> supports PHP 7.4 – 7.1
WordPress 5.0 = PHP 7.3 (dec 2018) -> supports PHP 7.3 – 7.0
WordPress 4.9 = PHP 7.2 (dec 2017) -> supports PHP 7.2 – 5.6
WordPress 4.7 = PHP 7.1 (dec 2016) -> supports PHP 7.1 – 5.6

So, WordPress (as a Community) should give info on WordPress (major) versions and PHP (major) versions supported. For example: WordPress 5.5 supports PHP 5.6.20 to 7.4. @mikeschroder considers that this could be in the Hosting Handbook.

In summary, each major WordPress version should officially support the PHP versions supported in that time (+/- 1 version), also, create a table with supported versions, so anybody knows the limits in each version.

@mikeschroder like the idea of scheduling, so that hosts (and users) can know what to expect. The actual schedule being up for debate is great. Also, love to discuss how hosts can help with the issue that is the background of this particular proposal, how can we best work together / with the project to get folks upgraded — not just from the 5.x, but in the future.

@jadonn highlighted that some hosts’ platforms’ PHP versions are provided by cPanel, Plesk, or the software managing the platform. In that case, the host is beholden to cPanel or whoever provides the PHP binaries.

@asmartbear “The good thing about a fixed schedule is it’s easy to plan for, way ahead of time. Tech, customer comms, measuring potential impact, etc…”. “A bad thing is you can’t use judgement calls.”

“It could be helpful for Core to mandate things, because it’s a forcing function for action, which doesn’t “blame” the hosts. So that might be net-positive for all hosts.”

“I think the main tension is that increasing PHP requirements is what’s best for the entire project/community from a technical perspective (features, performance, security, modernity), but anything that causes friction for users moves us away from the goal of “51% of the web.”

piotrekkaminski: “Support will either have to deal with PHP issues or sites getting hacked. My personal POV is i would rather take PHP issues.”

@jadonn: “It is probably a worthwhile question to ask about what is the path to the 51% goal. Is enforcing a newer version of PHP the path to achieving that goal? Like how does the PHP version correlate to or drive WordPress adoption.”

With that in mind, we left the meeting asking if there is a possibility to have more correlated data to make that kind of decisions.

@asmartbear closed with: “To Democratize Publishing doesn’t just mean that you can publish, it also means you own your work, which in the Internet world, means owning your site, and the wider ideals of the Open Web as well. No one wants to do maintenance, and many people (most?) don’t understand it. I believe we should be part of the solution, helping them along, rather than telling them to go to some closed-sourced, closed-web system. Also I think you’re not considering the fact that it’s not necessarily even the site owner’s “fault” in a certain sense. They use / bought some pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party or theme years ago and now it won’t work. Now you’re saying they have 4 months to replace their theme “or else.” While there is merit in that forcing function, our attitude should be one of compassion and trying to find the best way forward, rather than saying to a non-technical site owner that they should go re-tool a theme or else take their site.”

Next Meeting

The next meetings will be in the #hosting-community channel on Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 0900 UTC and Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 1800 UTC. Hope to see you then!

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Hosting Chat Recap: Wednesday, June 24, 2020

Here’s the summary of our meetings in #hosting-community on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 0900 UTC and on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 1800 UTC. (Slack archive).

The meetings were led by @mikeschroder and @jadonn. Notes taken by @Crixu.

Attendees: @chaion07, @clorith, @pfefferle, @mazeheld, @jonathansulo, @fahimmurshed, @thebengalboy, @amykamala, @nullbyte

Agenda

## Greetings
- Welcome and Personal Check-in

## Highlights
- APAC Triage Sessions
- XML Sitemaps Merged

## Hosting Team Time
- Open Handbook PRs
- Task Check-in

## Open Floor

Highlights

APAC Triage Sessions

APAC triage sessions have moved days, to account for the new APAC coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. dev chat:
https://make.wordpress.org/core/2020/06/22/new-date-and-time-for-apac-triage-sessions

@mikeschroder invites everyone from the team to join the sessions.

XML Sitemaps Merged

The XML Sitemaps feature was now merged to the core and the hosts are called to help to test the new feature on their platforms:
https://core.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/48072

Hosting Team Time

Open Handbook PRs

On the githubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/ page for the Hosting Handbook there are some pull request which need to be reviewed. Feel free to review and comment them:
https://github.com/WordPress/hosting-handbook/pulls

Hosting Team Tasks and Check-in

@pfefferle brought up the issue #65 on the Test Reporter repo. There is already a proposed way to send/store the data and the next step was to figure out how to display it. An idea was to bring it to the design team and ask them for help on how to display multiple reports per bot/host.

@mikeschroder was working on <a href="#36455“>#36455 (Invalidate files in opcode cache after pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party, theme or core update).

Open Floor

@Crixu brought up the question about the PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. http://php.net/manual/en/intro-whatis.php. Memory limit requirements and recommendations. See issue #45 on the handbook repo. As requirements change from website to website @mazeheld mentioned there can’t be an official recommendation while @mikeschroder is the opinion that we should give a recommendation with the remark that the requirement changes the more plugins and themes are installed and used. @mikeschroder suggested checking with hosts to get their average memory usage for WP so we might get at least a feeling about the consumption.

Next Meeting

The next meetings will be in the #hosting-community channel on Wednesday, July 01, 2020 at 0900 UTC and Wednesday, June 01, 2020 at 1800 UTC. Hope to see you then!

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Hosting Chat Recap: Wednesday, July 01, 2020

Here’s the summary of the meeting in #hosting-community on July 01, 2020 at 09:00 UTC and on July 01, 2020 at 18:00 UTC.(Slack archives).

The meetings were led by @mikeschroder and @jadonn. The Notes were taken by @chaion07.

Attendees: @tillkruess, @ugyensupport, @decipher05, @chaion07, @GMSamejo, @javiercasares, @pfefferle, @francina, @Crixu, @mikeschroder, @jonathansulo, @jadonn, @amykamala, @fahimmurshed, @passoniate, @evanstanton.

At the beginning of the meeting, there was a discussion about the requirements for getting a hosting team badge. Details on this can be found in the hosting handbook. If you have any questions, or are missing a badge, please leave a comment on this post, or contact any of the team reps!

Agenda

## Greetings
- Welcome and Personal Check-in

## Highlights
- WordPress 5.5 Beta 1 upcoming
- jQuery update

## Hosting Team Time
- PHP 8 and Hosting Tests- Task Check-in
- Open Handbook PRs

## Open Floor

Highlights

WordPress 5.5 BetaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. 1

WordPress 5.5 Beta 1 will be released on 7 July 2020!

5.5 will be the second major releaseMajor Release A set of releases or versions having the same major version number may be collectively referred to as “X.Y” -- for example version 5.2.x to refer to versions 5.2, 5.2.1, and all other versions in the 5.2. (five dot two dot) branch of that software. Major Releases often are the introduction of new major features and functionality. of 2020 and aims to include an update of the block editor to the latest release of GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/, automatic updates for plugins and themes, a blockBlock Block is the abstract term used to describe units of markup that, composed together, form the content or layout of a webpage using the WordPress editor. The idea combines concepts of what in the past may have achieved with shortcodes, custom HTML, and embed discovery into a single consistent API and user experience. directory, XML sitemaps, and lazy loading of images.

@pfefferle and @javiercasares mentioned that testing has been going well so far.

jQuery Update

jQuery is getting a major update this time around, and testing has been requested.

@javiercasares pointed out a plugin that makes it easy to test.

Hosting Team Time

Host Testing and PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. http://php.net/manual/en/intro-whatis.php. 8.0

@pfefferle brought the hosting tests and PHP 8 up for discussion, specifically: “How we can effectively test and report PHP 8 problems and does it make sense to change the host tests to PHP 8 when development of 5.6 starts?”

@mikeschroder recommended that hosts hold off on switching PHP versions until PHP 8 tests are passing on core’s TravisCI, stating that “CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress.’s TravisCI (it runs the same tests) is already running PHP 8, fortunately, so some things are visible there.”

Per @javiercasares‘ recommendation, two issues were created to check the phpunit-test-reporter and phpunit-test-runner for PHP 8 compatibility to make sure the tools are ready.

@francina investigated the potential for implementing a similar approach to what was taken for PHP 7.4, and mentioned “The test runner could start including PHP8  + ..definitely open tickets in tracTrac Trac is the place where contributors create issues for bugs or feature requests much like GitHub.https://core.trac.wordpress.org/. to highlight new and deprecated things in PHP8 that need fixing in WP.”

PHP 8 related tickets are being tracked with the php8 keyword, and help is welcome — both with existing tickets, and new ones!

Check-in

@javiercasares said they are planning to check pull requests in the team’s GithubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/ repos today (a review/report of the issues is now posted here).

@mikeschroder did a little handbook change review this week, and hopes to do more this week. Also committed the change to invalidate opcode cache on update in core, and has requested testing.

Next Meeting

The next meetings will be in the #hosting-community channel on July 08, 2020 at 09:00 UTC and July 08, 2020 at 18:00 UTC

Hope to see you then!

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Hosting Chat Recap: Wednesday, June 17, 2020

Here’s the summary of our meetings in #hosting-community on Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 0900 UTC and on Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 1800 UTC. (Slack archive).

The meetings were led by @crixu and @jadonn. Notes taken by @mikeschroder and @amykamala.

Attendees: @chaion07, @JavierCasares, @francina, @sstoyanov, @mazeheld

Agenda

## Greetings
- Welcome and Personal Check-in

## Highlights
- Gutenberg 8.3 
- Feedback requested: WP Notify
- New Meeting Calendar 

## Hosting Team Time
- Taking Notes
- Badge Announcement and Open Call for Hosting Badge Requests
- Hosting Page Updates
- Open Handbook PRs
- Task Check-in

## Open Floor

Highlights

Hosting Team Time

Call for note takers!

Please comment or ask in the channel if you’d like to help out. There are no requirements to take part, and it’s a great way to get involved. There’s peer review for folks helping out, too — so no worries about mistakes.

@chaion07 offered to be added to the rotation. Thank you!

Contribution Badges

Team reps decided to give @JavierCasares and @pfefferle the Hosting Team badge for their great work and leadership with projects in the past months and during the WCEU Contributor dayContributor Day Contributor Days are standalone days, frequently held before or after WordCamps but they can also happen at any time. They are events where people get together to work on various areas of https://make.wordpress.org/ There are many teams that people can participate in, each with a different focus. https://2017.us.wordcamp.org/contributor-day/ https://make.wordpress.org/support/handbook/getting-started/getting-started-at-a-contributor-day/.. Thanks so much!

Hosting Page Project

@mikeschroder had some details to share about the Hosting Page Project via @aaroncampbell and Josepha:

  • It sounds like Matt is +1 on the rubric that the Hosting Team came up with, the point/addition that hosts that make a large amount of their budget from hosting WordPress need to give back to administrative / CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. efforts in the project to be recommended.
  • The next step is for a small working team to be put together of impartial folks (not from hosts), to evaluate hosts initially, then again once per year.
  • The hosting team is likely done with its part, outside of gathering information that the working team needs and/or consulting on the rubric.
  • The working group will likely not be put together until after Josepha returns from sabbatical in ~3 months.

Hosting Team Tasks and Check-in

Help is requested for reviews on open pull requests in the handbook repo that could be unblocked.

@JavierCasares specifically pointed these out as ready to go:

@pfefferle requested review on  https://github.com/WordPress/phpunit-test-runner/pull/119 for consistency with https://github.com/WordPress/hosting-handbook/pull/11.

@mikeschroder requested review on #36455, both for whether it solves the problems that plugins/hosts have been having with OPcache, and also whether a filterFilter Filters are one of the two types of Hooks https://codex.wordpress.org/Plugin_API/Hooks. They provide a way for functions to modify data of other functions. They are the counterpart to Actions. Unlike Actions, filters are meant to work in an isolated manner, and should never have side effects such as affecting global variables and output. to control invalidation would be helpful.

Open Floor

@joostdevalk asked whether hosts were testing PHP8, and whether they plan to offer it to customers. Multiple hosts noted that yes, they were planning to release it, but didn’t have specifics. Two plan on shipping a few days after release, but not as a default.

Next Meeting

The next meetings will be in the #hosting-community channel on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 0900 UTC and Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 1800 UTC. Hope to see you then!

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Hosting Chat Recap: Wednesday, June 10, 2020

Here’s the summary of our meetings in #hosting-community on Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 0900 UTC and on Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 1800 UTC. (Slack archive).

The meetings were led by @mikeschroder and @jadonn. Notes taken by @crixu and @amykamala.

Attendees: @chaion07, @mazeheld, @JavierCasares, @clorith, @nullbyte, @joostdevalk @riper81

Agenda

## Greetings
  - Welcome and Personal Check-in
## Highlights
  - WordPress 5.4.2 comes out today!
## Hosting Team Time
  - WCEU 2020 Online Contributor Day
  - Thank you again!
  - Handbook
  - New WordPress.org Repo
  - What was accomplished
  - Task Check-in
## Open Floor

Highlights

WordPress 5.4.2 RC1 (Release CandidateRelease Candidate A beta version of software with the potential to be a final product, which is ready to release unless significant bugs emerge. 1) was released this week. Details on the Release Candidate can be found here. As always, testing and feedback is appreciated!

Hosting Team Time

WordCampWordCamp WordCamps are casual, locally-organized conferences covering everything related to WordPress. They're one of the places where the WordPress community comes together to teach one another what they’ve learned throughout the year and share the joy. Learn more. Europe 2020 Contributor DayContributor Day Contributor Days are standalone days, frequently held before or after WordCamps but they can also happen at any time. They are events where people get together to work on various areas of https://make.wordpress.org/ There are many teams that people can participate in, each with a different focus. https://2017.us.wordcamp.org/contributor-day/ https://make.wordpress.org/support/handbook/getting-started/getting-started-at-a-contributor-day/. was on June 4th! @crixu and @pfefferle spearheaded the event, with focus on two projects:

1. The Hosting Handbook Proposal and rough draft Handbook repository were migrated to a central GitHub repository and the team made progress on expanding handbook content. The new central repo enables the team to track issues and progress more effectively, and allows anyone to contribute by commenting, opening issues, or creating pull requests. Contributions can be made to the handbook using the in-browser editing option (Click ‘edit’ next to one of the Handbook pages) or by forking and cloning the repo.

2. PHPUnit Test Runner and Reporter documentation received a thorough peer review to assure that it is comprehensive and accessible for all Hosting Team members and other interested parties. In addition, some new hosting representatives configured testing and reporting on their hosting systems, while already-participating hosts fired up testing again successfully after a bug had previously interrupted reporting. The bug was resolved during WCEU 2020 Contributor Day, and the Hosting Team hasn’t seen any reports of failed tests since the fix. Hosts that run the phpunit test runner and reporter will want to take steps to update local systems to the latest version of the runner/reporter.

@JavierCasares suggested to have a weekly review of some more critical PRs to mitigate any confusion about steps required for merging requests. This was inspired by pull 15 which enhances security recommendations. This pull was merged prematurely as the content requires feedback from the Make WordPress security team. The Hosting team is also working towards providing more clarity on the guidelines for new reviewers, particularly for major audits. GitHub issue 44 was created to follow up on this subject.

Additionally, 7 new Hosting Contributors joined the Hosting Team and made contributions on Contributor Day! Welcome to the team! Folks who participated in Contributor Day who have not yet received a Hosting Team badge are encouraged to reach out to a team repTeam Rep A Team Rep is a person who represents the Make WordPress team to the rest of the project, make sure issues are raised and addressed as needed, and coordinates cross-team efforts. (@mikeschroder, @jadonn, @amykamala) for assistance.

Open Floor

@JavierCasares shared the new project overview for the handbook.

Two PRs were reviewed and one PR was merged during the meetings to facilitate reverting the Security content in the new Handbook and expand on the new project overview.

Feedback is requested on the following two issues , regarding a proposal list for Databases and Web Servers:

@joostdevalk suggested adding plugins to the test runner to enable both developers and hosts to check if popular plugins are still working. Hosts could easily opt-in for such nightly tests of plugins through the test runner. An issue on the GithubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/ repo of the test runner will be opened to continue the discussion.

Next Meeting

The next meetings will be in the #hosting-community channel on Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 0900 UTC and Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 1800 UTC. Hope to see you then!

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WCEU 2020 Team Intro Video – Call for Submissions

WordCampWordCamp WordCamps are casual, locally-organized conferences covering everything related to WordPress. They're one of the places where the WordPress community comes together to teach one another what they’ve learned throughout the year and share the joy. Learn more. EU 2020 will be entirely online! The conference organizers have asked each Make.WordPress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/ team to put together a short video (no longer than one minute) to introduce the team to the conference. The #hosting-community team is looking for team members to record short greetings to include in the team introduction.

The video is going to be published ahead of WCEU 2020 so new contributors can watch the team videos and decide which teams they would like to contribute to. The #hosting-community team would like to give team members a chance to be a part of this introduction.

If you would like to participate, please record a very brief video of yourself (about 5 seconds) saying a greeting from where you live. For someone in the United States who is a native English speaker, you would say “Hello from the United States”. The #hosting-community encourages team members who are not native English speakers to say the greeting in their native language if team members are comfortable doing so.

Once you are ready to share your clip, please send a direct message in SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. to @Crixu, @amykamala, @jadonn, or @mikeschroder to submit the video clip to the team.

If you have any other questions, leave a comment on this post and we’ll do our best to answer you!

Thank you to @mazeheld for volunteering to edit the video clips together, to @Crixu for helping organize video clip submissions, and to @amykamala for managing the work for WCEU 2020!

Hosting Chat Recap: Wednesday, April 29, 2020

This is the summary of both meetings in #hosting-community on Slack on Wednesday, April 29, 2020, at 0900 UTC and Wednesday, April 29, 2020, at 1800 UTC Here is the Slack archive for this week’s meetings.

The early meeting was led by @mikeschroder. The late meeting was led by @jadonn. Notes were taken by @crixu and @amykamala.

Meeting attendees: @mazeheld, @chaion07, @hristo-sg, @pfefferle, @javiercasares, @FahimMurshed, @passionate, @DHSean, @amykamala

Agenda

## Greetings
Welcome and Personal Check-in

## Highlights
WordPress 5.4.1 release candidate planned to ship this week

## Hosting Team Time
WCES 2020 Online Contributor Day
WCEU 2020 Online Contributor Day
Task Check-in

## Open Floor

Recap

WordPress 5.4.1 Release CandidateRelease Candidate A beta version of software with the potential to be a final product, which is ready to release unless significant bugs emerge. 1

WordPress 5.4.1 RC1 is scheduled to be released on April 29th, 2020 or April 30th, 2020, depending on your local timezone. Because of some upcoming public holidays it might be difficult for hosts to properly test everything before updating their clients, however team members will do their best.

More information about the 5.4.1 Release Candidate can be found here.

Feedback Requested

Feedback has been requested for the WordPress 5.4 Retrospective and the WordPress 5.5 call for tickets. The deadline for both is April 30th.

WCES 2020 and WCEU 2020

Tickets for WordCamp Europe 2020 and WordCamp Spain 2020 are now available!

Although online WordCamps tend to be free of charge, registering helps organizers prepare for potential spikes in traffic and to know what to expect and collect metrics. Registerring also gives folks the opportunity to be listed on the camp attendees pages.

WCES is going to take part between May 6th and May 9th with a Contributor DayContributor Day Contributor Days are standalone days, frequently held before or after WordCamps but they can also happen at any time. They are events where people get together to work on various areas of https://make.wordpress.org/ There are many teams that people can participate in, each with a different focus. https://2017.us.wordcamp.org/contributor-day/ https://make.wordpress.org/support/handbook/getting-started/getting-started-at-a-contributor-day/. on the last day. @JavierCasares will share details on WCES Contributor Day soon, and in addition this document has been prepared to help team members get ready for Contributor Days. As the site is EUPL, the hosting team can utilize this for the new Hosting Handbook pages, as well.

For WCEU Contributor Day, which will take place on June 4th, 2020 from 13:00-18:00 UTC, @amykamala started putting together a GitHubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/ project and some issues for tracking our team WCEU preparation.

Team members are starting work on a new handbook structure with new content for WCEU.

Office Hours are being discussed, and will be held from May 25th through June 3rd, 2020. The team is leaning towards holding office hours before and after the regularly scheduled meetings on Wednesdays. @crixu and @amykamala have volunteered to facilitate Hosting Team office hours.

Team members have been brainstorming on ideas for the video introduction. The team introduction will consist of information about the team and contributor day, as well as clips of team members saying hello from their location. Team members are invited to start recording your video clips now!

Instructions for hosting team members who wish to participate: Please record a short video clip of yourself saying “Hello from {{ YourLocation }}”, using your location. If you speak more than one language, you may say hello first in your language and then in English e.g.: “Hallo aus Deutschland! Hello from Germany!”

Folks can use a phone, webcam or another type of camera of your choice for this. Please make sure that you do not wear or display any company logos within your clip.

Because the video submission deadline was recently announced to be May 8th, it is requested that team members try to record their video clip by Wednesday, May 6th. Thank you all for your flexibility and participation!

@Crixu will provide a NextCloud instance for video uploads and @mazeheld has volunteered to edit the video. Thank you both!

Once complete, please contact @crixu, @mikeschroder, @jadonn or @amykamala for upload instructions.

Volunteers who wish to help with facilitating this process are still welcomed. Feel free to comment on the GitHub project or in these notes.

During the meeting @pfefferle asked: Who is hosting the hosting contributor day? According to this blog post there should be a team of contributors as mentors to help and guide new contributors.

Volunteers are welcomed for that as well! If you want to be part of this team of mentors, simply comment down below and join the #hosting-community channel on slackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/..

Next Meeting

The next meetings will be in the #hosting-community Slack channel on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 0900 UTC and Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 1800 UTC. Hope to see you then!

Hosting Chat Recap: Wednesday, April 22, 2020

This is the summary of both meetings in #hosting-community on Slack on Wednesday, April 22, 2020, at 0900 UTC and Wednesday, April 22, 2020, at 1800 UTC Here is the Slack archive for this week’s meetings.

The meetings were led by @mikeschroder and @jadonn. Notes taken by @crixu and @amykamala.

Attendees: @FahimMurshed, @pfefferle, @redituk, @chaion07, @mehedi_csit, @davidvee, @nullbyte, @crixu, @mikeschroder, @jadonn, @amykamala

Agenda

## Greetings
Welcome and Personal Check-in

## Highlights
WordPress 5.4.1 release candidate planned to ship this week

## Hosting Team Time
WCEU and WCES 2020 Online Contributor Day

## Open Floor

Chat Recap

WordPress 5.4.1 Release CandidateRelease Candidate A beta version of software with the potential to be a final product, which is ready to release unless significant bugs emerge.

@mikeschroder mentioned that the WP 5.4.1 Release Candidate is scheduled for this week. Hosts are encouraged to test all releases, including release candidates. Testing helps contribute to the continued improvement of WordPress, so thank you to all hosts who contribute with testing!

WordCampWordCamp WordCamps are casual, locally-organized conferences covering everything related to WordPress. They're one of the places where the WordPress community comes together to teach one another what they’ve learned throughout the year and share the joy. Learn more. Europe Contributor DayContributor Day Contributor Days are standalone days, frequently held before or after WordCamps but they can also happen at any time. They are events where people get together to work on various areas of https://make.wordpress.org/ There are many teams that people can participate in, each with a different focus. https://2017.us.wordcamp.org/contributor-day/ https://make.wordpress.org/support/handbook/getting-started/getting-started-at-a-contributor-day/.

WordCamp Europe is scheduled to take place as a fully online event and the hosting team will be facilitating a hosting table at Contributor Day. A few things are requested of the team in order to prepare for WCEU Contributor Day:

  • Create or update a “Getting started at a Contributor Day” page in the team handbook.
  • Designate office hours on SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. targeted for new contributors.
  • Create a short video introduction about the Hosting Team and Contributor Day activities at the hosting table.

A GitHub project board has been created to use for team coordination while preparing for WCEU 2020 Contributor Day. Folks have volunteered to help with the following:

Handbook: @pfefferle, @Crixu and @amykamala have volunteered to work on the updates to contributor pages in the Hosting Handbook. A GitHub issue was created for establishing a proposal for the new Handbook Sections. A “Getting Started” page has been created in the HandBook but does not yet have content.

Video: @amykamala suggested that each team member record a quick 30 second video clip saying “hello from [location]” to edit together with a welcome from team reps at the beginning and end.

The dialogue in the video might sound like this: “Hello from Bangladesh” .. “Hello from Japan” .. “Hello from the UK” .. “Hello from Germany” .. “Hello from France” .. “Hello from the USA” .. and then “Hello from the Make WordPress Hosting Team! Thank you for joining…” 

@nullbyte suggested that the team “add something that everyone likes about hosting. For example:
‘I like ngnix rewrite rules’
‘I enjoy combing through log files’…”

Office Hours: The team has not yet established a time slot for office hours. It was proposed that open office hours be held in place of weekly team meetings by some of the team members.

Do you have any thoughts or ideas about the WCEU project? Would you like to participate? Feel free to leave a comment below!

Task Check In

@pfefferle and @mike talked about some new PRs for the test runner. Currently, there are 33 reporters in total. The new limit on the reporter overview will be 3 revisionsRevisions The WordPress revisions system stores a record of each saved draft or published update. The revision system allows you to see what changes were made in each revision by dragging a slider (or using the Next/Previous buttons). The display indicates what has changed in each revision. and 50 reporters while the limit on the revision detail view will be 500 reporters.

Next Meeting

The next meetings will be in the #hosting-community channel on Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 0900 UTC and Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 1800 UTC. Hope to see you then!

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Host Feedback Requested Regarding SimpleXML

Hello WordPress Hosts!

WordPress CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. and the Core SiteMaps Feature Plugin Team are looking for statistics about the availability of the SimpleXML PHP Extension on systems that provide WordPress hosting.

Any non-sensitive data that can be shared regarding the following will help facilitate the growth and success of the WordPress software:

  • Do hosting platforms support and enable the SimpleXML extension as a standard?
  • How common is it for hosting platforms to not support the extension?
  • Will customers be disadvantaged if the core sitemaps feature “failed gracefully” (with an alert) if the extension is not supported on the hosting system?

The extension is required for the feature plugin as of version 0.2.0. Unless a large percentage of WordPress sites don’t support SimpleXML, when the feature is merged into core the extension will also be required for it to work; however, it will not be required for core itself.

Have any thoughts, questions or concerns? Want to provide data to help support WordPress? Drop a comment below or message the whole team in #hosting-community on SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/.!

Thank you to hosting contributors who provide info on SimpleXML! Your feedback is valuable!

#core, #feature-plugins, #feature-projects, #xml-sitemaps