Hosting Meeting Notes: October 17, 2018

Here’s the summary of our meeting in #hosting-community on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees: @danielbachhuber @dhsean @ugyen @mikeschroder

Announcements/Reminders

Please review and suggest/comment on the hosting Gutenberg working document.

Gutenberg

There were only a few folks this week, but the meeting this week was focused primarily on Gutenberg, and going over @mikeschroder‘s prepared doc on hosting team asks/tasks.

@dhsean liked, in particular, the idea to provide instructions in the WordPress panel surrounding troubleshooting.

@mikeschroder will check in with folks on the final proposed UX with/without the classic editor plugin installed.

We briefly discussed plugin developer notifications, and when they were going to go out. These went out on October 19 (thanks plugins team!).

@mikeschroder has started work on benchmarking Gutenberg, which is one of the items in the document. If anyone has existing performance or benchmarking data, or wants to help with this, please leave a comment, or come chat in #hosting-community.

@danielbachhuber is going to look into the REST API questions in the doc.

During conversation about docs, @mikeschroder brought up the suggestion to coordinate with existing docs efforts for Gutenberg.

When asked about getting existing Gutenberg tests (including End-to-End tests) working on hosting automated tests running,  @danielbachhuber said he thought it wouldn’t be a lot of work to add them.

After a call for feedback for the quarterly update, “Prepping for Gutenberg release” was suggested as top priority and current struggle.

If you have any notes, comments, or suggestions to add to the doc, please do!

Feedback

Miss this week’s meeting and want to discuss the initiatives above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, November 7, 2018, 1800 UTC. Hope to see you then!

Hosting Meeting Notes: October 10, 2018

Here’s the summary of our meeting in #hosting-community on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees: @andrewtaylor-1 @daveryan @dhsean @ugyensupport @jadonn @mikeschinkel @mikeschroder @brettface

Announcements/Reminders

@jadonn posted a callout for ideas last week for new initiatives for the team. Please bring them to the meeting on Oct 24!

It’s time to update the community team on our status for the quarter. Please comment or message @jadonn or @mikeschroder if you have thoughts on these points:

  • What is the team’s one-sentence top priority right now (and what’s the ETA)?
  • What struggles is the team having?
  • What is one thing you are all proud of this quarter?

Gutenberg

The meeting this week was focused primarily on Gutenberg.

The team started out talking about rollout plans for Gutenberg, given the November release date announcement.

Those present were optimistic about Gutenberg, but concerned specifically about the launch date being right before the busiest times for eCommerce during the year.

Some hosts are planning to roll out the Classic Editor plugin to selected users or all users to avoid breakage during the time period.

Those present had consensus that a January release date would be better for hosts, users, and adoption of Gutenberg.

@mikeschroder mentioned that he was asked for a list of hosting needs from @pento and is putting together a document with concerns+tasks from the hosting team for Gutenberg. Please take a look/edit/comment.

@pento also requested feedback specifically around upgrade policies and concerns regarding handling of updates if a security update came out between now and 5.0.x. Please take a look and comment on the thread in Slack.

Feedback

Miss this week’s meeting and want to discuss the initiatives above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, October 17, 2018, 1700 UTC. Hope to see you then!

Hosting Meeting Notes: October 3rd, 2018

Here’s the summary of our meeting in #hosting-community on Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees:
@jadonn @mikeschroder @brettface @antpb  @andrewtaylor-1 @francina

Announcements/Reminders

@jadonn posted a callout for ideas for new initiatives for the team. Please bring them to the meeting on Oct 24!

Gutenberg

The team is still looking for more ways to contribute to the Gutenberg / 5.0 rollout. Whether related to the above call for ideas or separately, feel free to reach out to the team in #hosting-community if we can help.

@mikeschroder connected with @francina and @pandjarov about a user’s Gutenberg whitescreen issue. It looks to have been specific to that site, rather than the platform. Thanks for the details, both!

@mikeschroder noted additional availability for Gutenberg related tasks.

WordPress Hosting Best Practices Documentation

Per @andrewtaylor-1, documentation in a good place after the performance doc going live. 

Bumped the meta ticket for getting the PHP recommendations linked from the WordPress.org Requirements page.

Contributions and edits are always welcome on the GitHub repo.

Feedback

@andrewtaylor-1 is going to be at WordCamp Portland, Seattle, and Philadelphia, and @earnjam at WordCamp Philadelphia as well. Does anyone else have plans to be at WordCamps and want to catch up or cowork on community tasks?

Miss this week’s meeting and want to discuss the initiatives above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, October 10, 2018, 1700 UTC. Hope to see you then!

Hosting Meeting Notes: August 15th, 2018

Here’s the summary of our meeting #hosting-community on Wednesday, August 15th, 2018 at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees:
@mikeschroder @brettface @antpb @danielbachhuber @clorith @t-rave @pdclark

Announcements/Reminders

  • No new announcements or reminders this week.

WordPress Hosting Best Practices Documentation

Gutenberg

  • @danielbachhuber asked team members to report back on adoption of Gutenberg.
    • @mikeschroder said things are going better than expected at DreamHost.
    • @t-rave said Flywheel has not seen much chatter about Gutenberg yet.
  • @mikeschroder asked team members to monitor any changes in resource usage on WordPress websites with Gutenberg installed.
    • @pento reported outside of the normal meeting time some instances of increased RAM usage have been seen by users who install Gutenberg.

Feedback

Miss this week’s meeting and want to discuss the initiatives above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, August 22nd, 2018, 1700 UTC. Hope to see you then!

Hosting Meeting Notes: August 8th, 2018

Here’s the summary of our meeting #hosting-community on Wednesday, August 8th, 2018 at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees:
@mikeschroder @dhsean @pbiron @jessecowens @antpb @schlessera @pdclark @andrewtaylor-1

Announcements/Reminders

WordPress Hosting Best Practices Documentation

Gutenberg

  • @mikeschroder asked hosts to provide reports on any noteworthy developments or experiences with the roll out of Try Gutenberg.
    • @pbiron joined today from the #core team to gather any feedback
    • @mikeschroder and @dhsean reported nothing trending for DreamHost
    • @antpb said WP Engine has not observed any issues
      • @antpb did say the Try Gutenberg roll out has almost doubled adoption of Gutenberg

Feedback

Miss this week’s meeting and want to discuss the initiatives above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts!

Hosting Meeting Notes: August 1st, 2018

Here’s the summary of our meeting #hosting-community on Wednesday, August 1st, 2018 at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees:
@danielbachhuber @andrewtaylor-1 @pbiron @pdclark @dhsean @jadonn @mikeschroder @mazeheld

Announcements/Reminders

WordPress Hosting Best Practices Documentation

  • No new developments due to ongoing focus on Gutenberg and Try Gutenberg.

Gutenberg

  • @andrewtaylor-1 reported that a new filter try_gutenberg_learn_more_link has been added to filter the “Learn More” link.
  • Hosts can also use the try_gutenberg_panel action to append/prepend items to the Try Gutenberg panel or to remove the panel entirely
  • @jadonn asked for additional feedback about publishing or distributing the Try Gutenberg Hosting Support Best Practices
    • The team felt the document should continue to live in its current form as a shared Google Document
  • Hosts are busy finishing up preparations for the launch of Try Gutenberg 

Feedback

Miss this week’s meeting and want to discuss the initiatives above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, August 8th, 2018, 1700 UTC. Hope to see you then!

Hosting Meeting Notes: July 25th, 2018

Here’s the summary of our meeting #hosting-community on Wednesday, July 25th, 2018 at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees:
@danielbachhuber @andrewtaylor-1 @dryanpress @pdclark @dhsean @jadonn @bph @mikeschinkel @earnjam @mikeschroder

Announcements/Reminders

Gutenberg

  • @andrewtaylor-1 reported two new issues with Try Gutenberg.
    • Users are prompted to install even when they do not have file write privileges.
      • Additional checks have been added for file privileges.
    • Hosts need to be able to customize some of the text in the Try Gutenberg panel in order to direct users to resources relevant for their platforms.
      • @pento implemented an action hook hosts can use for this in response.
  • Regarding customizing the text, after some discussion, the team agreed to request the action @pento implemented be changed to a filter and to have the filter change the “Learn more about Gutenberg” link and its anchor text.
  • @mikeschroder raised a concern about WordPress.org not having the means to remotely toggle whether or not the Try Gutenberg panel is displayed.
    • Such functionality would be useful in case of significant issues that arose during the initial adoption phase.
    • @mikeschroder will follow up with Trac ticket #41316 regarding his concerns.
  • @mikeschroder asked team members to add any information they think would be helpful to the Try Gutenberg Support Best Practices Documentation.

Feedback

Miss this week’s meeting and want to discuss the initiatives above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, August 1st, 2018, 1700 UTC. Hope to see you then!

Hosting Meeting Notes: July 18th, 2018

Here’s the summary of our meeting #hosting-community on Wednesday, July 18th, 2018 at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees:
@danielbachhuber @andrewtaylor-1 @rawrly @hirenpurohit @brettface  @jadonn @jessecowens @mazeheld

Announcements/Reminders

Hosting Best Practices Documentation

Gutenberg

Feedback

Miss this week’s meeting and want to discuss the initiatives above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, July 25th, 2018, 1700 UTC. Hope to see you then!

Hosting Meeting Notes: July 11th, 2018

Here’s the summary of our meeting #hosting-community on Wednesday, July 11th, 2018 at 1700 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees:
@danielbachhuber @andrewtaylor-1 @antpb @rawrly @ivanatanasov @brettface @bph @jadonn @dryanpress @pandjarov @clorith 

Announcements/Reminders

  • The launch of the Try Gutenberg callout is scheduled for the release of WordPress 4.9.8
    • WordPress 4.9.8 is due for general release on July 31st

Gutenberg

Feedback

Miss this week’s meeting and want to discuss the initiatives above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, July 18th, 2018, 1700 UTC. Hope to see you then!

Help with the Gutenberg Migration Guide at Contributor Day

Looking for something to do at Contributor Day? We could use your help!

The Gutenberg Migration Guide is a crowdsourcing project to document WordPress Classic Editor customization points and their Gutenberg equivalents (if such exist). media_buttons is the quintessential example; whereas you might’ve used this action previously in the Classic Editor to register a button, it no longer exists in Gutenberg and the block inserter is its direct equivalent.

We want the migration guide to be as comprehensive as it can be. This is defined as:

  1. Identifying as many integration points as we can find. For instance, there are already 14 actions / filters listed. Some are commonly used, while others are not. As long as we have a good example for how the integration point is used, it makes sense to include in the guide.
  2. Whenever possible, documenting how feature parity can be achieved with Gutenberg. Some integration points do already have Gutenberg equivalents. Others don’t yet, and that’s alright.

You can help make the migration guide more comprehensive. If you don’t have any examples of your own to include, here are a couple of places you can start looking:

Everyone can contribute to the migration guide, regardless of skill set. All you need to do is open a new GitHub issue and report the incompatibility you’ve found. Screenshots and GIFs are tremendously helpful. If you know the underlying problem, then please include that too. If all you know is that a given plugin’s feature doesn’t work in Gutenberg, no worries; simply open an issue and we can help track down the cause. Identifying examples of breakage are what we need help with most.

Feel free to join #hosting-community in the WordPress.org Slack if you have any questions, etc. Thanks for your help!