Hosting Meeting Notes: April 15, 2019

Here’s the summary of our meeting in #hosting-community on Wednesday, April 15, 2019 at 1400 UTC (Slack archive).

This was the first meeting at the alternate day/time, and I’m excited to see so many folks!

Attendees: @javiercasares @tylerthomas @j-falk @clorith @boborchard @danfoster @redituk @arvindsingh @katebolin @earnjam @brechtryckaert @mazeheld @tnash @mikeschroder

Hosting Meeting Notes

@redituk noted that he wasn’t able to review meeting notes, so we chatted briefly about the need for folks to review notes/lead meetings and enable that.

@mikeschroder noted that permissions were something we could add, but also that public previews could be enabled if make/hosting had the proper plugin. Since the meeting, this has been added so that anyone can review. Thanks @dd32!

Site Health

As a followup on the chat from last week @mikeschroder suggested folks test the 5.2 beta and linked to a doc that has details on tests and filters for the Site Health tool that is set to ship.

Specifically, he noted that some tests may not apply, or require changes for certain hosts, so please take a look! For instance, there’s a check for automatic update support that requires that WordPress be writable and not have a .git directory. Hosts that have a non-writable WordPress directory or native version control and handle upgrade for users manually may want to change or remove that test using the available filters.

@earnjam pointed out that there will also be a post on make/core soon regarding Site Health.

@j-falk asked if there was any documentation on the PHP modules that Site Health checks for availability. This may be in the upcoming dev note, but in the meantime, it’s visible in the hosting handbook and in the Site Health source.

@mazeheld noted that Site Health was working well for them.

Hosting Automated Testing

@redituk asked to discuss the hosting automated tests.

@earnjam explained that when he set up the tests for Bluehost recently, there were a couple of things he noticed.

First, reporting of the specific error encountered stopped working when the autosave endpoint was merged to core. This makes it so that we can no longer see which tests failed on a host from make/hosting.

Fixing this will involve changes both in the test reporter and on the meta side, but there is currently no way for hosts to know when the test runner/reporter needs to be updated. This makes it difficult to get hosts up to date.

Secondly, some tests were added to core that were failing on hosts that run the tests as root and were since removed temporarily.

He said he’d check to find out which hosts we should contact and recommended we document that the tests should not be run as root (this documentation has since been updated).

Feedback

If you missed this week’s meeting and have questions or feedback, leave a comment on this post and share your thoughts! OR….Come join for the next meeting!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, April 24th, 2019 at 1700 UTC. Hope to see you then!

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Hosting Meeting Notes: April 11, 2019

Here’s the summary of our meeting in #hosting-community on Wednesday, April 11, 2019 at 1800 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees: @brechtryckaert @FahimMurshed @tnash @brettface @mazeheld @jnash @zzap @redituk

New Meeting Times Decided

There was brief discussion around the decision to test alternating meeting times for a month.

If you’re interested in taking notes or helping lead either meeting, please leave a comment either here or on the meeting-times-post!

Folks were positive, with @redituk pointing out it would be a good idea to remind folks when the next meeting is, in addition to the make/meetings schedule.

WCEU Contributor Day

@zzap asked if anyone was interested in representing the Hosting team at WCEU, and @mazeheld volunteered. Thanks!

Site Health

@jadonn shared a doc from @mikeschroder detailing the Site Health checks and some filters available for them targeted for WordPress 5.2. Please take a look and see if they look appropriate for your hosting environment. @clorith noted that a dev note is coming soon as well — thanks!

Feedback is appreciated!

Feedback

Miss this week’s meeting and want to know more about anything above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts! OR….Come join us!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, April 24th, 2019 at 1700 UTC. Hope to see you then!

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Hosting Meeting Notes: April 3, 2019

Here’s the summary of our meeting in #hosting-community on Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 1800 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees: @jadonn @brettface @kamala @xkon @RonG @Fuegas @clorith @supersoju

New Meeting Time – Continued Discussion

@mikeschroder proposed having two meeting times per week: Wednesdays at 1800 or 1700 UTC and Monday at 1400 UTC.

Please post feedback about new meeting times in last week’s meeting notes post, as the discussion continues:

Meeting notes will continue to be used to sync with. Other ideas for staying synced with two meeting times are:

  • Create a Calendar feed to notify members of pending meetings.
  • Use The Slack channel status as a reminder of when the next meeting is.

Open Call for Gutenberg Users

The WordPress.org Marketing team is looking for examples of great work done using Gutenberg! This includes but is not limited to websites, designs, applications and other efforts using Gutenberg.

If you have such an example, please submit your information in the #marketing team Slack channel.

WordPress 5.2 Projected Release in end of April

WordPress 5.2 is scheduled for release on April 30, 2019.

Since WordPress 5.1, users with versions of PHP <= 5.6 see a dashboard widget suggesting that they update PHP.

WordPress 5.2 takes this further, raising the minimum required version of PHP to 5.6.20. This means that users with lesser versions won’t be able to upgrade to WordPress 5.2 until they’ve updated PHP.

More Details On Health Check

Status updates and discussion being logged here:

https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/46573

The Health Check Plugin version 1.3 (pending release) is expected to include a rudimentary PoC for WP-CLI

More info on how to use the new Health Check module found here:

Feedback

Miss this week’s meeting and want to know more about anything above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts! OR….Come join us!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, April 10th, 2019 at 1800 UTC. Hope to see you then!

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Hosting Meeting Notes: March 20, 2019

Here’s the summary of our meeting in #hosting-community on Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 1800 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees: @jadonn @brechtryckaert @mikeschroder @dhsean @amykamala @fahimmurshed @Andrew_Jones @RonG

New Meeting Time Proposal

@mikeschroder proposed new hosting community meeting times. Please fill out this Doodle to help determine better meeting times for team participants around the globe:

https://doodle.com/poll/wtc5ug34g4q26tfq

Open Call for Gutenberg Users

#marketing has put a call out for examples of incredible work done with Gutenberg. This includes websites, user experiences or anything beneficial that has resulted from using Gutenberg. This seems like a great opportunity to share work you or your customers/clients are doing with WordPress and Gutenberg. If you have any questions, the #marketing team, Mike or Harry (@miker and @harryjackson1221) are available to help.

Feedback

Miss this week’s meeting and want to know more about anything above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts! OR….Come join us!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, April 10th, 2019 at 1800 UTC. Hope to see you then!

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Meeting Time Poll

Hey everyone!

I’m back from being away for a move, and have created this poll to see when folks are available for weekly meetings.

Whether you’ve been attending meetings for a while, or are interested in attending but haven’t been able to attend in the past, please note your availability.

As a group, we’ve been considering whether more than one meeting might be helpful to cover more of the globe, and this will help us decide that too.

Please fill out the poll here.

I’ll leave it open for a week, then we’ll talk about the results and decide on meeting time(s). Please let me know if you have any troubles with it, and look forward to seeing you there. Thanks so much!

Hosting Meeting Notes: March 6, 2019

Here’s the summary of our meeting in #hosting-community on Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 1800 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees: @brechtryckaert @kamala

Meeting postponed

Due to the low turnout this meeting is postponed until next week.

Feedback

Miss this week’s meeting and want to know more about anything above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts! OR….Come join us!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, April 10th, 2019 at 1800 UTC. Hope to see you then!

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Hosting Meeting Notes: February 27, 2019

Here’s the summary of our meeting in #hosting-community on Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 1800 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees: @jadonn @brechtryckaert @abdullahramzan @fahimmurshed @earnjam @mazeheld @brettface @andrewtaylor-1 @joostdevalk

Collaboration Proposal

@brechtryckaert proposed to look into a collaboration with the marketing team on the “recommended hosting companies”-list (https://wordpress.org/hosting/), since several hosting companies active in this group would be eager to get vetted for this list. @jadonn also indicated that the marketing team also would love to get showcase proposals. @brechtryckaert will reach out to @joostdevalk to see how a collaboration can be initiated and will provide an update at the next meeting. He also asks if anyone is interested in helping out.

End-To-End (E2E) Testing

@jadonn inquired with @earnjam if there are any updates on this initiative.
@earnjam reports that both him and @mikeschroder have gotten access to the repository to work on it.

@earnjam also ask for even more hosting companies to join in on this effort. Here is the page he is referring to: https://make.wordpress.org/hosting/test-results/

Feedback

Miss this week’s meeting and want to know more about anything above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts! OR….Come join us!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, April 10th, 2019 at 1800 UTC. Hope to see you then!

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Hosting Meeting Notes: February 20, 2019

Here’s the summary of our meeting in #hosting-community on Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 1800 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees: @mikeschroder @mazeheld @brechtryckaert @rawrly @fahimmurshed @Mile @Ugyen @earnjam

Housekeeping

@mikeschroder reminds us that @jadonn and @brechtryckaert will be helping out with the meetings during his move. He also indicates that extra people to help out with the meeting notes are welcome.

Testing Results

@earnjam reports he has opened several issues on the PHP Unit Test Runner repository as well as on a PR.

@mikeschroder also reminds us about the porting initiative for these E2E-tests:
If you work at a host and aren’t already aware, this team has a tool that allows hosts to set up PHPUnit tests to get run against their environment, so that it’s clear when either WordPress trunk has broken some things at hosts, or hosting environments aren’t compatible with trunk: https://make.wordpress.org/hosting/test-results/

@mikeschroder also pinged @danielbachhuber to facilitate @earnjam‘s contributions to the project.

WordPress 5.1 RC2

@mikeschroder reminds us that WordPress 5.1 RC2 (https://wordpress.org/news/2019/02/wordpress-5-1-rc2/) was released yesterday. @mazeheld reports that he’s seen some issues regarding double installs of the Hello Dolly plugin. This issue occurs in the following situation:

  1. Get a clean install of WP 4.8
  2. Skipped all minor updates and updated through to 5.0
  3. Then “hello dolly” displayed twice, and got a fatal error

@earnjam suspects that the extra Hello Dolly was installed via the plugin repository, since the paths in the resulting fatal error differ. @mikeschroder asked @Maze Held to create a ticket for this issue, to make sure it’s tracked.

Feedback

Miss this week’s meeting and want to know more about anything above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts! OR….Come join us!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, April 10th, 2019 at 1800 UTC. Hope to see you then!

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Hosting Meeting Notes: February 13, 2019

Here’s the summary of our meeting in #hosting-community on Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 1800 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees: @mikeschroder @Fahim Murshed @aaroncampbell @Ugyen @brettface @brechtryckaert @kenshino @earnjam @Andrew Jones @RonG

Personal Announcement

@mikeschroder indicated that he’s moving to Japan, so he’ll be unavailable from now until the week of the 18th of March, when he’ll be fully available again. @brechtryckaert offered to help out during @mikeschroder‘s absence. @mikeschroder also indicated that @jadonn might also be able to do part of the work and suggested connecting in the following days to work out a plan.

@mikeschroder also indicates that this will impact his hours of availability. The current chat would be at 3 am local time for him. While he’s able to shift it for an hour or two, he’s interested to hear our input on the possibility of a second meeting in Slack, focussed on the APAC or APAC/EU regions. @mikeschroder also indicated willingness to lead that meeting. @aaroncampbell suggests starting a Doodle for this.

End-To-End (E2E) Testing

@mikeschroder reports he has just about got GoDaddy’s setup with the current tests running well, and it’s brought up good bugs/enhancements for the test runner. @earnjam indicated Bluehost has been set up since yesterday. @Andrew Jones indicated A2 Hosting should have this up by early next week.

@mikeschroder also reminds us about the porting initiative for these E2E-tests:
If you work at a host and aren’t already aware, this team has a tool that allows hosts to set up PHPUnit tests to get run against their environment, so that it’s clear when either WordPress trunk has broken some things at hosts, or hosting environments aren’t compatible with trunk: https://make.wordpress.org/hosting/test-results/

WordPress 5.1

@mikeschroder reminds us about WordPress 5.1 which is nearing release. This version adds a notice to the dashboard indicating that they are running and outdated PHP version if this version is < 5.6. He requests us to help test the release candidate.

Feedback

Miss this week’s meeting and want to know more about anything above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts! OR….Come join us!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, April 10th, 2019 at 1800 UTC. Hope to see you then!

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Hosting Meeting Notes: February 6, 2019

Here’s the summary of our meeting in #hosting-community on Wednesday, February 6, 2019 at 1800 UTC (Slack archive).

Attendees: @jadonn @j-falk @brechtryckaert @fahimmurshed @brettface @dyrer @jnashhawkins @rong @aaroncampbell @francina @pandjarov @mikeschroder

Video-based Meeting

The first video meeting happened, and 8 people attended! @brettface posted the notes here.

He requested folks ping him if they’d like anything added to the agenda for next time.

Core PHP team assistance

It was brought up in the last core chat that the core PHP team could use some help, and because the work they are doing is very connected to hosting, it’d be great if we could help out.

We briefly discussed this, and pointed to the tickets where help is needed. The Core PHP team meets weekly, with the next meeting on Monday, January 18, 2019 at 1600 UTC.

Feedback

@chanthaboune followed up on her “Our Strengths and Challenges” post. Check it out, and please leave feedback with any thoughts or recommendations.

Miss this week’s meeting and want to know more about anything above? Spend some time in the comments and share your thoughts! OR….Come join us!

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be in #hosting-community on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 1800 UTC. Hope to see you then!

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