Tide Chat Agenda: January 19th

UPDATE: Will need to postpone this meeting until the same time on January 26th.

This is the agenda for the 30-minute Tide status update and open floor discussion on January 19, 2020 at 19:00 UTC:

  • Updates on progress of Node service refactoring
  • Open floor

If you have anything to propose to add to the agenda or specific items related to the above, please leave a comment below. See you there!

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Tide Chat Summary: November 10th and December 8th

This post summarizes the Tide chats from November 10th (agenda, Slack archive) and December 8th (agenda, Slack archive) in the #tide SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. channel.

Reminder that the current Tide focus is integrating PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. http://php.net/manual/en/intro-whatis.php. Compatibility data from Tide into WordPress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/.  Once PHP Compatibility is integrated into WordPress.org, we’ll assess the next focus to provide the biggest impact to the community.

Node refactoring

  • @ivankk crafted APIAPI An API or Application Programming Interface is a software intermediary that allows programs to interact with each other and share data in limited, clearly defined ways. spec
  • @derekherman shared that the rebuild on Node past couple of months will make code more approachable compared to Golang version
  • @derekherman aiming to share code publicly in coming weeks, Staging API functioning, aiming for stable release in January and then deprecate old repo versions
  • @derekherman noted that plan is to work with WP Engine for new version of Tide as data source to support PHP Compatibility Checker pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party
  • The new codebase leverages Firebase hosting, Cloud Functions, Cloud Run, Pub/Sub, and Datastore along with the OpenAPI Specification for our API and Vuepress for the docs. Assumption is it will cost much less to maintain and be a lot easier to contribute to.
  • Main help once the new repos and Staging URLs are shared will be on testing and helping update docs

Tide Goals

  • Options to consider post-PHP Compat work are:
    • Displaying Tide audit results on WP.org plugin/theme pages
    • Displaying Tide audit results (immediate and historical) in a private view for plugin/theme developers
    • Ability to editorially include compatible PHP versions for plugins/themes that include backcompat code
    • Assist plugin/theme review team review processes via automated code reviews
    • CI bot / GitHubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/ Action tied to WPCS / Theme Review Team ruleset for plugin/theme developers to integrate to GitHub repos & get feedback earlier in their development process
  • @jeffpaul likes idea of helping out plugin/theme review teams if Tide can align to their goals/problems to solve
  • @jeffpaul also likes idea of showing warnings in WP Admin add plugin/theme screens if users site may not be compatible based on PHP Compat Tide has identified for a plugin/theme
  • Will look to identify Tide’s goal(s) / focus(es) in future Tidechat, but please provide feedback on what you feel is worthwhile!

Next meeting

The next meeting, a 30-minute Tide status update and open floor discussion, will take place on January 19, 2021 at 19:00 UTC in the #tide Slack channel.  Please feel free to drop in with any updates or questions.  If you have items to discuss but cannot make the meeting, please leave a comment on this post so that we can take them into account.

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Tide Chat Agenda: December 8th

This is the agenda for the 30-minute Tide status update and open floor discussion on December 8, 2020 at 19:00 UTC:

  • Updates on progress of Node service refactoring
  • Meeting scheduling & holidays
  • Open floor

If you have anything to propose to add to the agenda or specific items related to the above, please leave a comment below. See you there!

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CANCELLED Tide Chat: November 24th

This weeks Tide meeting originally scheduled on November 24, 2020 at 18:00 UTC has been CANCELED due to the US Thanksgiving holiday having the coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. Tide team mostly offline.

If you have anything to propose to add to the next Tidechat agenda, please leave a comment below. See you then!

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Tide Chat Agenda: November 10th

This is the agenda for the 2-hour Tide active working session on November 10, 2020 at 18:00 UTC:

If you have problems you would love to see Tide help with or other goals you would like to see Tide achieve, then please come to this Tidechat or comment on this agenda post and we’ll include them in our discussion.

If you have anything to propose to add to the agenda or specific items related to the above, please leave a comment below. See you there!

#agenda, #roadmap, #tide-chat

Tide Chat Summary: October 27th

This post summarizes the 30-minute Tide status update and open floor discussion from October 27th in the #tide SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. channel (agenda, Slack archive).

Reminder that the current Tide focus is integrating PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. http://php.net/manual/en/intro-whatis.php. Compatibility data from Tide into WordPress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/.  Once PHP Compatibility is integrated into WordPress.org, we’ll assess the next focus to provide the biggest impact to the community.

Node refactoring

  • @ivankk prototyping solution and simpler APIAPI An API or Application Programming Interface is a software intermediary that allows programs to interact with each other and share data in limited, clearly defined ways. definition using OpenAPI spec v3, aiming for update in next couple of weeks
  • Goal is to switch from Golang to JS to make it easier to contribute to and more approachable for the community
  • Plans to integrate with PHP Compat Checker plugin as the main consumer of the API
  • Discussion on migrating data from current schema to new, decided easier to just re-audit on new Node.js platform so data matches schema but can keep Golang schema and data around for visualizations if desired
  • Will eventually need to create a new Sync Server and decide how much data to initialize into the new system

Next meeting

The next meeting, a 2-hour active working session, will take place on November 10, 2020 at 18:00 UTC in the #tide Slack channel.  Please feel free to drop in with any updates or questions.  If you have items to discuss but cannot make the meeting, please leave a comment on this post so that we can take them into account.

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Tide Chat Agenda: October 27th

This is the agenda for the 30-minute Tide status update and open floor discussion on October 27, 2020 at 18:00 UTC:

  • Updates on progress of Node service refactoring
  • Open floor

If you have anything to propose to add to the agenda or specific items related to the above, please leave a comment below. See you there!

#agenda, #tide-chat

Tide Chat Agenda: September 29th

This is the agenda for the 2-hour Tide active working session on September 29, 2020 at 18:00 UTC:

If you have problems you would love to see Tide help with or other goals you would like to see Tide achieve, then please come to this Tidechat or comment on this agenda post and we’ll include them in our discussion.

If you have anything to propose to add to the agenda or specific items related to the above, please leave a comment below. See you there!

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Tide Chat Summary: September 15th

This post summarizes the 30-minute Tide status update and open floor discussion from September 15th in the #tide SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. channel (Slack archive).

Reminder that the current Tide focus is integrating PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. http://php.net/manual/en/intro-whatis.php. Compatibility data from Tide into WordPress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/.  Once PHP Compatibility is integrated into WordPress.org, we’ll assess the next focus to provide the biggest impact to the community.

Tide rewrite

  • @derekherman and team at XWP working on Node package that generates Serverless APIAPI An API or Application Programming Interface is a software intermediary that allows programs to interact with each other and share data in limited, clearly defined ways.’s from an OpenAPI Specification v3 (OASv3) document that could be foundation of Tide rewrite
  • @derekherman: Node rewrite will make Tide easier to maintain and simplify the architecture
  • While XWP works to complete the Node package, the Tide community will need to define the Tide API spec in the OASv3 format (see wptide#204)

Tide goals

  • Discussion then shifted to goals of Tide and what’s currently desired compared to what was originally built
  • Some items that came up were:
    • Displaying Tide audit results on WP.org pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party/theme pages
    • Displaying Tide audit results (immediate and historical) in a private view for plugin/theme developers
    • Ability to editorially include compatible PHP versions for plugins/themes that include backcompat code
    • Assist plugin/theme review team review processes via automated code reviews
    • CI bot / GitHubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/ Action tied to WPCS / Theme Review Team ruleset for plugin/theme developers to integrate to GitHub repos & get feedback earlier in their development process
  • Please comment on this post or come to the next Tide meeting with any other problems you’d love to see Tide help with or other goals you’d like to see Tide achieve.
  • We’ll review all options for Tide in our next meeting to work towards a confirmed focus for the team and align with a Node rewrite/OASv3 spec

Next meeting

The next meeting, a 2-hour active working session, will take place on September 29, 2020 at 18:00 UTC in the #tide Slack channel.  Please feel free to drop in with any updates or questions.  If you have items to discuss but cannot make the meeting, please leave a comment on this post so that we can take them into account.

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Tide Chat Agenda: August 18th

This is the agenda for the 2-hour Tide active working session on August 18, 2020 at 18:00 UTC:

  • 1.0.0
    • Review open PRs for issues blocking merging, commit to owners to resolve those, aiming to get to merge by end of the working session
    • Review open issues needing PRs, commit to owners to submit those PRs, aiming to get to code review and possibly merge by end of the working session

If you have anything to propose to add to the agenda or specific items related to the above, please leave a comment below. See you there!

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