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  • Jen Mylo 6:33 am on October 29, 2010 Permalink
    Tags: code-in, gsoc, mentorship, students   

    I submitted our application to be a participating organization in the Google Code-in.

    We need to compile the task list. I put in some high-level placeholders for now, but people should go ahead and make suggestions for tasks. Note that the final task list will be pruned down to those tasks that are approved by the core leads and that have appropriate people available to oversee them, to ensure a positive outcome for the students and that we’re not wasting anyone’s time. If you want to suggest a task, leave it in a comment here. Specify if you are also offering to mentor any student taking on that task, or if it’s just something you think should get done. As tasks are agreed upon and have mentors assigned to them, I’ll add them to the codex page.

     
  • Tracy Cannon 5:01 pm on May 7, 2010 Permalink
    Tags: gsoc, , update notifications   

    Summary of May 6 Meeting

    Q & A with Justin Shreve about his Ideas & Feedback Theme project which was accepted for GSoC. (Congrats!)

    Abstract:

    http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/student_project/show/google/gsoc2010/wordpress/t127230764519

    Previous Discussion: http://make.wordpress.org/ui/2010/04/01/better-ideas-so-to-speak/

    • GSOC officially starts May 24
    • Working on the functional specs
    • Now is a good time for feedback on features
    • Sites with similar functionality (for inspiration): Ubuntu BrainStorm, Dell IdeaStorm, UserVoice
    • He will be using the wp-ui mailing list for specific tasks and other help.
    • We’ll primarily use the mailing list to request help and for specific tasks.
    • … more specifics will be coming in the next few weeks.

    This week’s challenge::

    Better alternatives to the orange from the update notifications for themes/plugins. Blue/gray has been suggested as an alternative. Post mockups and suggestions here.

     
    • Tracy Cannon 6:22 pm on May 7, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Current Update Color: #D54E21

      Current Screenshots:
      http://flic.kr/p/7Zmsij
      http://flic.kr/p/7ZifAt

    • JohnONolan 12:43 pm on May 9, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Here’s one from me, didn’t feel that the blue was working as it didn’t stand out – so went for a few alternatives.

      http://twitpic.com/1meikk/full

      • Jane Wells 3:19 pm on May 20, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I think the middle orange (pending comments) looks the best with the blue, and the fact that we use it elsewhere to indicate pending status is something I like (your plugins are pending update, etc). The question comes down to whether the number indicator should feel be more like a prompt that something is waiting for you or more like an alert message.

    • holdenc 2:22 am on May 13, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      This is a difficult one because the orange is the perfect complimentary colour to the blue that is the default. There are a lot of colour that would look good, but some also vibrate on the grey. Something like a rgb(178,68,116), a nice purplish pink with a good contrast to the grey, or rgb(197,0,0) would go great with a small white accent (drop-shadow with a border bottom fallback) around it so the colours don’t vibrate together too much.

    • Tracy Cannon 6:19 pm on May 13, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

    • Norman 1:31 pm on May 15, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Whats wrong with the orange? Its one of WordPress’ brand colors and it works beautifully.

      • irishmark 3:25 pm on May 18, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I agree – nowt wrong with a bit of orange.

      • holdenc 6:53 pm on May 18, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        This was my point. I think the orange should stay!

      • JohnONolan 9:57 am on May 20, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Hi Norman, the specific orange which you’re referring to is left over from WordPress 2.5 – it doesn’t actually appear anywhere else in the UI so we’re trying some different options to bring it up to speed and keep it consistent.

    • Ivor Padilla 7:01 pm on May 19, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      In the menu section this line needs ‘overflow:hidden;’.

      #menu-management .menu-edit {
      margin-bottom:20px;
      *overflow:hidden;*
      }

    • Spencer Lavery 1:32 am on May 21, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      A variant of grey as per the Dashboard sub-section update notification would also work well.

      A major concern with the current orange is that it can appear alarming, and with the rate that plugins are updated recently, a WP installation running 10-20 plugins requires updating a few times per week. This can give the impression to client-deployed WP installations that the site is constantly in need of ‘fixing’, and leave them with a general feeling that the site may be unstable or broken in some way.

      An alternative would be to develop a hook to distinguish between security/critical updates (could be displayed with an orange/red badge) and non-critical updates (could be displayed with a grey). Although, obviously, plugin updates should never really be ‘critical’, and if that’s the case a sole grey colour would in terms of UX be more semantic.

      • Jane Wells 1:54 am on May 21, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I think we’re going to go with the milder orange that use elsewhere in the admin to indicate ‘pending’ status. I agree that we need color standardization based on types. We talked about this in today’s UI chat, and will be working toward that.

      • JohnONolan 11:39 am on May 21, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I like the idea of colours to indicate severity of the update – let’s definitely have a chat about that one when we come to 3.1 task discussions

  • Jen Mylo 7:46 pm on April 1, 2010 Permalink
    Tags: gsoc, , theme   

    Better Ideas (so to speak) 

    Justin Shreve is proposing a GSoC project this year that I’m sure will be near and dear to the UI group’s heart, and that some of you may want to help with it (the pre-project design part). Everyone wants to fix the Ideas forum, right? It’s currently in bbPress, I’ve been cleaning it out, we added categories, and it’s very slowly getting a little more useful and just needs a new design to make it easier to get around, right? Maybe, maybe not. bbPress does some things very well, and others not so much. Justin’s proposal will be for a theme and some plugins that could be used to run the Ideas forum (I’m thinking it could get relocated to make.wordpress.org/suggestions), and I will likely be the primary mentor for the UX/interaction modeling, with another mentor for code reviews. Here’s his proposal draft:

    http://justin.wordpress.com/2010/04/01/gsoc-proposal-specialized-theme-for-ideas-feedback/

    I’ve just talked to him about additional features and structuring the project, so this draft may change a bit, but now’s a good opportunity to get in on the ground floor of a full design project, as opposed to little UI tweaks. Comment away!

     
    • Dre 4:19 am on April 2, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      This is a good start Justin, and thanks for the post Jane.

      I think this is a great opportunity to start fully revamping at least one component of the WP support system.

      I like the recommended commenting system. Often times, all of the emphasis is put on the actual idea, yet great comments around the original idea typically stem into great ideas of their own. Problem is that in most cases those comments don’t float to the top resulting in potentially great ideas to be overlooked.

      I am definitely game to help here if needed.

      Great job Justin.

      • Jane Wells 4:35 am on April 2, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Just to be clear, the Ideas forum is not meant to be a part of the support system, but of the contribution infrastructure.

      • Justin Shreve 4:48 am on April 2, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Dre: I agree about the normal commenting system issues. I hope the solutions feature will allow the ideas to grow and evolve and lead to action being taken on the original idea.

        If you had any other ideas on improving comments let me know. I’m sure my proposed system could use some work to make discussion on ideas even better.

    • Dre 4:40 am on April 2, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Why thank you, my apologies. :)

    • Dre 5:00 am on April 2, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Justin: You have a great start here, I am sure it will come together quite nicely. I will try to add where relevant.

    • iamronen 7:54 am on April 2, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Some thoughts on personas who may use this application, their motivations and interactions with it…

      Personas:
      • End User: make a suggestion based on personal experience and needs – low involvement – generallly a one time interaction
      • Community User (more active and involved then an end user): review suggestions, comment and vote – wants to make a difference
      • Plugin Developers: engage end users on conversation about ideas related to a specific plugin
      • Designer: seek interesting ideas and provide suggested solutions
      • Developer: seek interesting idea and develop a solution
      • WordPress Facilitator: make it easy for the above mentioned people to get and stay involved

      Persona: End User
      • Submit an idea – using words and images – HTML editor
      • Here’s an idea: make it possible to submit ideas directly from the Admin UI (plugin?)

      Persona: Community User
      • Review new/latest ideas
      • Review popular ideas
      • Vote on idea
      • Comment on idea
      • Subscribe to feed on idea

      Persona: Plugin Developer
      • Subscribe to feed on plugin ideas & comments & suggestions
      • Share information on upcoming features (displayed as ideas)
      • Review ideas, comments & suggestions on Plugin

      Persona: Designers
      • Provide solution suggestions for idea
      • Comment on suggested solutions

      Persona: Developer
      • Take an idea into development – “Join Development Team”
      • Contact people involved in idea for discussion: idea creator, commenters, designers

      Persona: WordPress Facilitator
      • Set idea target implementation: plugin (not core) / core – coming soon / core – future
      • Set idea highlights – highlighted ideas can be given preferred exposure – to bring them to the front and get more people’s input on them.
      • Close ideas
      • Move ideas into development (Trac?) and close converation.
      • Consolidate repeat ideas

    • JohnONolan 1:19 am on May 4, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’ve just read the proposal in full and I have to say, I think it sounds really great. Justin – let us know what you need. I’m guessing you’re planning on wireframing it up yourself to build the functionality, once you’ve got that as a starting point we can start looking at contributing wherever you need it!

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