Tide Chat Summary: March 16th

This post summarizes the Tide chat from March 16th in the #tide SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. channel (agenda, Slack archive).

Reminder that the current Tide focus is integrating PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. https://www.php.net/manual/en/preface.php. Compatibility data from Tide into WordPress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/.  Once PHP Compatibility is integrated into WordPress.org, we’ll assess the next focus to provide the biggest impact to the community.

Node refactoring

  • @derekherman updated Status schema to allow Status UI to be sortable, will drop DB and rerun sync server after tweaking logic and iterating to resolve failed jobs
  • @antpb continuing to refactor PHP Compatability Checker plugin, may need small iterations on Tide schema/etc. to best align to pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party
  • @jeffpaul ran through local setup, focused on getting docs running and not full scale Tide, small PR to adjust Staging Docs, considering another PR to more obviously separate docs vs. complete Tide local setup
  • @derekherman to update architecture diagram to match new Node setup
  • Current Tide version in Production using Golang costs ~$600/month, last month Tide version in Staging using Node cost $2.66 and has cost a total of $6.64 since October
  • If you have time, please try out the updated Tide local setup using Node and call out any issues you see… thanks!

Next meeting

Note the change below to April 6th due to Spring Break schedules, when normally we’d meet on March 30th.

The next meeting, a 30-minute Tide status update and open floor discussion, will take place on April 6, 2021 at 18:00 UTC in the #tide Slack channel.  Please feel free to drop in with any updates or questions.  If you have items to discuss but cannot make the meeting, please leave a comment on this post so that we can take them into account.

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Tide Chat Summary: March 2nd

This post summarizes the Tide chat from March 2nd in the #tide SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. channel (agenda, Slack archive).

Reminder that the current Tide focus is integrating PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. https://www.php.net/manual/en/preface.php. Compatibility data from Tide into WordPress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/.  Once PHP Compatibility is integrated into WordPress.org, we’ll assess the next focus to provide the biggest impact to the community.

Node refactoring

  • @derekherman working to resolve two outstanding issues: finishing the status UIUI UI is an acronym for User Interface - the layout of the page the user interacts with. Think ‘how are they doing that’ and less about what they are doing. and updating the documentation
  • Status UI is connected to Firestore and provides real-time updates, but provides no pagination, sorting, or search
  • Documentation of installation should be good for others to try out / test, but after that there’s likely more that needs more/better info in the docs
  • Once the status UI and docs are committed and deployedDeploy Launching code from a local development environment to the production web server, so that it's available to visitors. Tide will be ready for a stable release

Post-meeting note: the status UI is now available.

Next meeting

The next meeting, a 30-minute Tide status update and open floor discussion, will take place on March 16, 2021 at 18:00 UTC in the #tide Slack channel.  Please feel free to drop in with any updates or questions.  If you have items to discuss but cannot make the meeting, please leave a comment on this post so that we can take them into account.

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Tide Chat Summary: February 16th

This post summarizes the Tide chat from February 16th in the #tide SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. channel (agenda, Slack archive).

Reminder that the current Tide focus is integrating PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. https://www.php.net/manual/en/preface.php. Compatibility data from Tide into WordPress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/.  Once PHP Compatibility is integrated into WordPress.org, we’ll assess the next focus to provide the biggest impact to the community.

Node refactoring

  • @derekherman still has some items left on his todo list, but is aiming for an RC1 release as early as March 2nd
  • Latest improvements was code coverage going from ~30% to ~94%, refactoring logic post proof-of-concept stage, and adding proper error handling
  • A new Cloud Function was added to host the Swagger UIUI UI is an acronym for User Interface - the layout of the page the user interacts with. Think ‘how are they doing that’ and less about what they are doing. so you can now interact with the API in the browser
  • @derekherman met with folks at WP Engine last week to discuss the Tide APIAPI An API or Application Programming Interface is a software intermediary that allows programs to interact with each other and share data in limited, clearly defined ways. as a data source for the PHP Compatibility Checker plugin that they support, the result of the meeting can be found on a related support forum post from @antpb
  • PHPCSPHP Code Sniffer PHP Code Sniffer, a popular tool for analyzing code quality. The WordPress Coding Standards rely on PHPCS. reports are now separated by PHP version to make it easier to build a UI on top of. These can be viewed in the PHPCS schema object
  • Tide now stores not just the pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party/theme version being audited, but also the version of the report (e.g., PHPCS) that the audit relates to in the Dependencies object, that’s part of the Report object, that’s part of the Audit object (where the plugin/theme version resides)
  • The API stores info about the server including Node and PHP version as well as the package used to run the audit
  • @derekherman is considering switching from Datastore to Firestore as a breaking change headed into an RC1 as this would allow a status UI as a VueVue Vue (pronounced /vjuː/, like view) is a progressive framework for building user interfaces. https://vuejs.org/. component in the docs to see audits in realtime, more details to come on that in the next Tidechat
  • @antpb to share test results as the PHP Compatibility Checker team gets further along in their development process
  • Biggest help others can provide is to test the Node version locally from https://staging.wptide.org/ and highlight any issues found as a GitHub issue, comment in Slack, or as a comment on this post

Next meeting

The next meeting, a 30-minute Tide status update and open floor discussion, will take place on March 2, 2021 at 19:00 UTC in the #tide Slack channel.  Please feel free to drop in with any updates or questions.  If you have items to discuss but cannot make the meeting, please leave a comment on this post so that we can take them into account.

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Tide Chat Summary: February 2nd

This post summarizes the Tide chat from February 2nd in the #tide SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. channel (agenda, Slack archive).

Reminder that the current Tide focus is integrating PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. https://www.php.net/manual/en/preface.php. Compatibility data from Tide into WordPress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/.  Once PHP Compatibility is integrated into WordPress.org, we’ll assess the next focus to provide the biggest impact to the community.

Node refactoring

  • @ivankk noted the refactored codebase is available at https://github.com/wptide/wptide.org and the respective documentation is at https://staging.wptide.org/
  • Ideal steps are to test Tide on Staging and for those looking to contribute to have a look at those docs and try setting it up locally
  • For anyone testing the local set up, please open issues for any inconsistencies / issues / improvements you see that could be made… thanks!

Next meeting

The next meeting, a 30-minute Tide status update and open floor discussion, will take place on February 16, 2021 at 19:00 UTC in the #tide Slack channel.  Please feel free to drop in with any updates or questions.  If you have items to discuss but cannot make the meeting, please leave a comment on this post so that we can take them into account.

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Tide Chat Summary: January 26th

This post summarizes the Tide chat from January 26th (originally scheduled for January 19th) in the #tide SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. channel (agenda, Slack archive).

Reminder that the current Tide focus is integrating PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. https://www.php.net/manual/en/preface.php. Compatibility data from Tide into WordPress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/.  Once PHP Compatibility is integrated into WordPress.org, we’ll assess the next focus to provide the biggest impact to the community.

Node refactoring

  • @derekherman will move beta version of Node rewrite to https://github.com/wptide/ and make public
  • @derekherman will share link to related docs site that gets converted to HTMLHTML HTML is an acronym for Hyper Text Markup Language. It is a markup language that is used in the development of web pages and websites. and deployedDeploy Launching code from a local development environment to the production web server, so that it's available to visitors. from markdown files in the repo, docs were completely rewritten to match Node version
  • wptide.org will stay in place until the updated Tide APIAPI An API or Application Programming Interface is a software intermediary that allows programs to interact with each other and share data in limited, clearly defined ways. output gets finalized
  • Node version will run in Staging until work is finalized, will then setup deploys to Production
  • @jeffpaul will look for folks to help test the betaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. Node version and be available to help pitch in on any remaining tasks to get Node version out of beta and functionally covering near term goals for Tide
  • NOTE from after the meeting:

I have moved the repository to the wptide organization and made it public. https://github.com/wptide/wptide.org This currently deploys develop to https://staging.wptide.org There are a few more things I was to sort out tomorrow and will give a full overview of where we are at. I’m heading off as it’s almost 2am. The API will most definitely change and if you are trying to test it just know it could be different in the next couple days.

Derek Herman in Slack

Next meeting

The next meeting, a 30-minute Tide status update and open floor discussion, will take place on February 2, 2021 at 19:00 UTC in the #tide Slack channel.  Please feel free to drop in with any updates or questions.  If you have items to discuss but cannot make the meeting, please leave a comment on this post so that we can take them into account.

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Tide Chat Summary: November 10th and December 8th

This post summarizes the Tide chats from November 10th (agenda, Slack archive) and December 8th (agenda, Slack archive) in the #tide SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. channel.

Reminder that the current Tide focus is integrating PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. https://www.php.net/manual/en/preface.php. Compatibility data from Tide into WordPress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/.  Once PHP Compatibility is integrated into WordPress.org, we’ll assess the next focus to provide the biggest impact to the community.

Node refactoring

  • @ivankk crafted APIAPI An API or Application Programming Interface is a software intermediary that allows programs to interact with each other and share data in limited, clearly defined ways. spec
  • @derekherman shared that the rebuild on Node past couple of months will make code more approachable compared to Golang version
  • @derekherman aiming to share code publicly in coming weeks, Staging API functioning, aiming for stable release in January and then deprecate old repo versions
  • @derekherman noted that plan is to work with WP Engine for new version of Tide as data source to support PHP Compatibility Checker pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party
  • The new codebase leverages Firebase hosting, Cloud Functions, Cloud Run, Pub/Sub, and Datastore along with the OpenAPI Specification for our API and Vuepress for the docs. Assumption is it will cost much less to maintain and be a lot easier to contribute to.
  • Main help once the new repos and Staging URLs are shared will be on testing and helping update docs

Tide Goals

  • Options to consider post-PHP Compat work are:
    • Displaying Tide audit results on WP.org plugin/theme pages
    • Displaying Tide audit results (immediate and historical) in a private view for plugin/theme developers
    • Ability to editorially include compatible PHP versions for plugins/themes that include backcompat code
    • Assist plugin/theme review team review processes via automated code reviews
    • CI bot / GitHubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/ Action tied to WPCSWordPress Community Support A public benefit corporation and a subsidiary of the WordPress Foundation, established in 2016. / Theme Review Team ruleset for plugin/theme developers to integrate to GitHub repos & get feedback earlier in their development process
  • @jeffpaul likes idea of helping out plugin/theme review teams if Tide can align to their goals/problems to solve
  • @jeffpaul also likes idea of showing warnings in WP Admin add plugin/theme screens if users site may not be compatible based on PHP Compat Tide has identified for a plugin/theme
  • Will look to identify Tide’s goal(s) / focus(es) in future Tidechat, but please provide feedback on what you feel is worthwhile!

Next meeting

The next meeting, a 30-minute Tide status update and open floor discussion, will take place on January 19, 2021 at 19:00 UTC in the #tide Slack channel.  Please feel free to drop in with any updates or questions.  If you have items to discuss but cannot make the meeting, please leave a comment on this post so that we can take them into account.

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Tide Chat Summary: October 27th

This post summarizes the 30-minute Tide status update and open floor discussion from October 27th in the #tide SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. channel (agenda, Slack archive).

Reminder that the current Tide focus is integrating PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. https://www.php.net/manual/en/preface.php. Compatibility data from Tide into WordPress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/.  Once PHP Compatibility is integrated into WordPress.org, we’ll assess the next focus to provide the biggest impact to the community.

Node refactoring

  • @ivankk prototyping solution and simpler APIAPI An API or Application Programming Interface is a software intermediary that allows programs to interact with each other and share data in limited, clearly defined ways. definition using OpenAPI spec v3, aiming for update in next couple of weeks
  • Goal is to switch from Golang to JS to make it easier to contribute to and more approachable for the community
  • Plans to integrate with PHP Compat Checker plugin as the main consumer of the API
  • Discussion on migrating data from current schema to new, decided easier to just re-audit on new Node.js platform so data matches schema but can keep Golang schema and data around for visualizations if desired
  • Will eventually need to create a new Sync Server and decide how much data to initialize into the new system

Next meeting

The next meeting, a 2-hour active working session, will take place on November 10, 2020 at 18:00 UTC in the #tide Slack channel.  Please feel free to drop in with any updates or questions.  If you have items to discuss but cannot make the meeting, please leave a comment on this post so that we can take them into account.

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Tide Chat Summary: September 15th

This post summarizes the 30-minute Tide status update and open floor discussion from September 15th in the #tide SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. channel (Slack archive).

Reminder that the current Tide focus is integrating PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. https://www.php.net/manual/en/preface.php. Compatibility data from Tide into WordPress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/.  Once PHP Compatibility is integrated into WordPress.org, we’ll assess the next focus to provide the biggest impact to the community.

Tide rewrite

  • @derekherman and team at XWP working on Node package that generates Serverless APIAPI An API or Application Programming Interface is a software intermediary that allows programs to interact with each other and share data in limited, clearly defined ways.’s from an OpenAPI Specification v3 (OASv3) document that could be foundation of Tide rewrite
  • @derekherman: Node rewrite will make Tide easier to maintain and simplify the architecture
  • While XWP works to complete the Node package, the Tide community will need to define the Tide API spec in the OASv3 format (see wptide#204)

Tide goals

  • Discussion then shifted to goals of Tide and what’s currently desired compared to what was originally built
  • Some items that came up were:
    • Displaying Tide audit results on WP.org pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party/theme pages
    • Displaying Tide audit results (immediate and historical) in a private view for plugin/theme developers
    • Ability to editorially include compatible PHP versions for plugins/themes that include backcompat code
    • Assist plugin/theme review team review processes via automated code reviews
    • CI bot / GitHubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/ Action tied to WPCSWordPress Community Support A public benefit corporation and a subsidiary of the WordPress Foundation, established in 2016. / Theme Review Team ruleset for plugin/theme developers to integrate to GitHub repos & get feedback earlier in their development process
  • Please comment on this post or come to the next Tide meeting with any other problems you’d love to see Tide help with or other goals you’d like to see Tide achieve.
  • We’ll review all options for Tide in our next meeting to work towards a confirmed focus for the team and align with a Node rewrite/OASv3 spec

Next meeting

The next meeting, a 2-hour active working session, will take place on September 29, 2020 at 18:00 UTC in the #tide Slack channel.  Please feel free to drop in with any updates or questions.  If you have items to discuss but cannot make the meeting, please leave a comment on this post so that we can take them into account.

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Tide Chat Summary: August 4th

This post summarizes the 30-minute Tide status update and open floor discussion from August 4th in the #tide SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. channel (Slack archive).

Reminder that the current Tide focus is integrating PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. https://www.php.net/manual/en/preface.php. Compatibility data from Tide into WordPress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/.  Once PHP Compatibility is integrated into WordPress.org, we’ll assess the next focus to provide the biggest impact to the community.

1.0.0

  • @derekherman & @jeffpaul looking to support WCUS’ suggested 24hr Contributor Day event, but only able to cover certain hours on that schedule, so looking for others to help coordinate, pingPing The act of sending a very small amount of data to an end point. Ping is used in computer science to illicit a response from a target server to test it’s connection. Ping is also a term used by Slack users to @ someone or send them a direct message (DM). Users might say something along the lines of “Ping me when the meeting starts.” @jeffpaul if you’re interested in assisting
  • No major updates on progress towards v1.0.0
  • Looking for assistance in installing Tide locally and troubleshooting what isn’t working after the WP 5.3 update

Next meeting

The next meeting, a 2-hour active working session, will take place on August 18, 2020 at 18:00 UTC in the #tide Slack channel.  Please feel free to drop in with any updates or questions.  If you have items to discuss but cannot make the meeting, please leave a comment on this post so that we can take them into account.

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Tide Chat Summary: June 23rd

This post summarizes the 2-hour Tide active working session from June 23rd in the #tide SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. channel (agenda, Slack archive).

Reminder that the current Tide focus is integrating PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. https://www.php.net/manual/en/preface.php. Compatibility data from Tide into WordPress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/.  Once PHP Compatibility is integrated into WordPress.org, we’ll assess the next focus to provide the biggest impact to the community.

1.0.0

  • No major updates across items that remain In Progress or In Review for v1 release
  • @jeffpaul pulled together issues/PRs from wptide, pkg, wp-tide-api, wporg-tide-api, and docs repos into a GitHub project board to help better track To Do / In Progress / In Review / Done items for the v1 release
  • @jeffpaul also worked on refactoring the docs to remove docpress and simplify to GitHubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/ Pages. Forked repo and sample docs site are available for review and can open a PR to merge changes upstream and then can assign the wptide.org domain to the GitHub Page and be fully migrated off docpress into a simpler setup.
  • Note we can also utilize the default https://wptide.github.io/docs/ URL for a GitHub Pages docs site, but utilizing the existing wptide.org may be more ideal
  • Help testing/reviewing the sample docs site for any inconsistencies against the current wptide.org docs site would be helpful to ensure switching from docpress to GitHub Pages goes smoothly.

Next meeting

The next meeting, a 30-minute update/open floor session, will take place on July 7, 2020 at 18:00 UTC in the #tide Slack channel.  Please feel free to drop in with any updates or questions.  If you have items to discuss but cannot make the meeting, please leave a comment on this post so that we can take them into account.

#summary, #tide-chat