Title: Content Creation Discussion: Examples Author: Chip Bennett Published: June 2, 2015 --- [ ](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 3:16 pm _on_ June 2, 2015   # Content Creation Discussion: Examples In anticipation of the content creation discussion, and as a continuation of last week’s meeting, please post in the comments examples of types of content that you believe need clarification. To reiterate: what we want to do is two-fold: 1. Clarify what constitutes user content 2. Identify what, if any, of such content is acceptable to be defined by the Theme Please read [@greenshady](https://profiles.wordpress.org/greenshady/)‘s post, where [you will find the obvious things](http://justintadlock.com/archives/2015/05/28/the-theme-review-teams-content-creation-discussion) that are out-of-scope: * Custom post types. * Custom taxonomies. * Non-presentational post metadata. * Database tables. * Shortcodes. * Custom comment types. Justin lists four types of other content: * Footer text * Portfolio projects * Profile widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user. * Front-page content sections If you have more, please post your examples here, before discussing them in the meeting, in the hopes that the discussion in SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform [https://slack.com/](https://slack.com/). The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at [https://make.wordpress.org/chat/](https://make.wordpress.org/chat/) will be as orderly/organized as possible. Also, please try to be as descriptive as possible. A “custom text widget” doesn’t really help. What is the _purpose_ of that custom text widget? 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[superwinner](https://profiles.wordpress.org/superwinner/) 3:24 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 3. Can we give examples of themes? 4. * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 3:35 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * No, please give examples of content types. 5. ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/dcab50d06752c5c2ae64b584dbb3c5c98173fc69eaf932eb6479e4ac33fe0f71? s=32&d=mm&r=g) 6. [progmastery](https://profiles.wordpress.org/progmastery/) 3:28 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 7. What about these? 8. Widgets for simple Advertisements (banner, text) with or without click counting. Widgets for custom code inserted by user. Post Metadata : number of post views. This can also be presentational if used for arranging posts in blog by popularity. 9. ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/05fc6de6acadfd2ef1f52a1c23d426d28c0c3e90e5875eded5991823c2e4672f? s=32&d=mm&r=g) 10. [cats_456](https://profiles.wordpress.org/cats_456/) 3:39 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 11. Input field for a link in a ‘call to action button’. 12. * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 4:01 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * I think CTAs, in general, are trivial content and should be allowed. - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/ee688e454076072936e2f07ceea1727351cda523c1c8925b90e5040a858463e1? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [Carolina Nymark](https://profiles.wordpress.org/poena/) 4:02 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - +1 - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8845aff3f199163c862fab2df0749653d1becc94902764cbba85dc67bb2e6ae6? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [Omaar Osmaan](https://profiles.wordpress.org/moonomo/) 4:40 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - +1 - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/eb5d081232974bf03b5342543996762577822cf6c5f5e61d0200ed7a413a145a? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [acosmin](https://profiles.wordpress.org/acosmin/) 4:50 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - even if it’s made with custom metaMeta Meta is a term that refers to the inside workings of a group. For us, this is the team that works on internal WordPress sites like WordCamp Central and Make WordPress.? * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 4:56 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * Again, the focus is on content type, not implementation method. 13. ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/e4dc2e76f66e99bf45ff04e1ff030592a19385e86e987b5b0ae8722cb0b7f314? s=32&d=mm&r=g) 14. [Maria Antonietta Perna](https://profiles.wordpress.org/antonietta456/) 3:39 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 15. Just to clarify, would an option in the CustomizerCustomizer Tool built into WordPress core that hooks into most modern themes. You can use it to preview and modify many of your site’s appearance settings. for the user to change footer text be allowed? 16. * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 3:42 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * That’s what we’ll be discussing. To simplify things, don’t worry about the implementation (customizerCustomizer Tool built into WordPress core that hooks into most modern themes. You can use it to preview and modify many of your site’s appearance settings., etc.), and just focus on the content type (e.g. footer text). * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 3:47 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * Also, I agree with [@greenshady](https://profiles.wordpress.org/greenshady/) that, while footer text can be defined in other ways (such as a WidgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user. area), the content is trivial, and as such is reasonable for a Theme to define. - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8845aff3f199163c862fab2df0749653d1becc94902764cbba85dc67bb2e6ae6? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [Omaar Osmaan](https://profiles.wordpress.org/moonomo/) 4:45 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - +1 17. ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/18976976723d48b71e04b7e6d11d65ef2e4b065cd410b27b803e0d2b823c88e3? s=32&d=mm&r=g) 18. [Nilambar Sharma](https://profiles.wordpress.org/rabmalin/) 3:40 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 19. * WidgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user. for Call to action; Text field for a sentence, button text, button URLURL A specific web address of a website or web page on the Internet, such as a website’s URL www.wordpress.org, * Widget with title and text but with lots of design customization like, background color, border color, border width border style and bla bla style settings. It may be presentational but when switching theme, lots of hours could go waste. 20. * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 3:43 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * What would that “sentence” be? What would the “title and text” be? * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 3:46 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * I think a custom Call-to-Action WidgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user. represents extremely trivial content, and as such is reasonable for a Theme to define. - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/18976976723d48b71e04b7e6d11d65ef2e4b065cd410b27b803e0d2b823c88e3? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [Nilambar Sharma](https://profiles.wordpress.org/rabmalin/) 4:01 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - Today, we need to mark now what is trivial. If textarea is added, then whole lot of content could be added and that may not be trivial. But it text input, it may be trivial. * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 4:06 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * Again, please focus on data types, not the means of input of those data types. Input versus textarea is not really what we’re trying to clarify here. 21. ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/0138ef14da77b9261fdf0b83568bf7caa859d704d28586f62ea7cbc34631fe5c? s=32&d=mm&r=g) 22. [ThemeZee](https://profiles.wordpress.org/themezee/) 3:44 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 23. A textarea option in the CustomizerCustomizer Tool built into WordPress core that hooks into most modern themes. You can use it to preview and modify many of your site’s appearance settings. that allows users to add a banner ad in the headerHeader The header of your site is typically the first thing people will experience. The masthead or header art located across the top of your page is part of the look and feel of your website. It can influence a visitor’s opinion about your content and you/ your organization’s brand. It may also look different on different screen sizes. area using HTMLHTML HTML is an acronym for Hyper Text Markup Language. It is a markup language that is used in the development of web pages and websites. code ( escaped with wp_kses_post ) 24. * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 3:46 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * Why can that not be a coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. WidgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user. area, using a core text Widget? - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/0138ef14da77b9261fdf0b83568bf7caa859d704d28586f62ea7cbc34631fe5c? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [ThemeZee](https://profiles.wordpress.org/themezee/) 3:48 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - Because users tend to add any widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user. to the headerHeader The header of your site is typically the first thing people will experience. The masthead or header art located across the top of your page is part of the look and feel of your website. It can influence a visitor’s opinion about your content and you/ your organization’s brand. It may also look different on different screen sizes. area then and expect that they all work there properly. A simple setting seemed easier 🙂 But I agree that widgets would be possible as well. * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 3:53 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * So provide Theme documentation that explains the intended usage of a given WidgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user. area. You can’t always make users use your Themes the way you intend. Even if you create a custom Widget, that doesn’t mean they won’t try to put a different, arbitrary widget in that area. Or try to put seven Widgets in an area designed for three. The best laid plans of mice and men, and all that… - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/eb5d081232974bf03b5342543996762577822cf6c5f5e61d0200ed7a413a145a? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [acosmin](https://profiles.wordpress.org/acosmin/) 3:48 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - because you can’t use some htmlHTML HTML is an acronym for Hyper Text Markup Language. It is a markup language that is used in the development of web pages and websites. elements with the coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. one * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 3:58 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * What HTMLHTML HTML is an acronym for Hyper Text Markup Language. It is a markup language that is used in the development of web pages and websites. elements does a banner ad need, that aren’t available using the coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. text widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user.? - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/eb5d081232974bf03b5342543996762577822cf6c5f5e61d0200ed7a413a145a? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [acosmin](https://profiles.wordpress.org/acosmin/) 4:03 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - 🙂 have you seen google adsense? * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 4: 07 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * Google adsense (and similar) should be enqueued and hooked into wp_head or wp_footer. And more importantly, Google AdSense is something that should be PluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory [https://wordpress.org/plugins/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/) or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party.-defined to begin with. - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/eb5d081232974bf03b5342543996762577822cf6c5f5e61d0200ed7a413a145a? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [acosmin](https://profiles.wordpress.org/acosmin/) 4:14 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - I don’t think that helps if you want the ad to appear in the area 🙂 * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 4: 20 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * Why would it not help? The Theme provides the template location, and the pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory [https://wordpress.org/plugins/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/) or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party. provides the output( e.g. WidgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user.). - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/eb5d081232974bf03b5342543996762577822cf6c5f5e61d0200ed7a413a145a? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [acosmin](https://profiles.wordpress.org/acosmin/) 4:15 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - seems I am not allowed to write - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/eb5d081232974bf03b5342543996762577822cf6c5f5e61d0200ed7a413a145a? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [acosmin](https://profiles.wordpress.org/acosmin/) 4:16 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - body tag 25. ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/0138ef14da77b9261fdf0b83568bf7caa859d704d28586f62ea7cbc34631fe5c? s=32&d=mm&r=g) 26. [ThemeZee](https://profiles.wordpress.org/themezee/) 3:53 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 27. Custom Widgets that display posts from a selected categoryCategory The 'category' taxonomy lets you group posts / content together that share a common bond. Categories are pre-defined and broad ranging.. I’m using these a lot to allow users to create a custom layouted and flexible magazine homepage, for example: [http://preview.themezee.com/leeway/](http://preview.themezee.com/leeway/) 28. These should be 100% presentational, because no content is created. 29. * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/27c0751de5ed93222d17118b8e8b3ea1f97be0c79dafaa270e454df903f1afd1? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [kevinhaig](https://profiles.wordpress.org/kevinhaig/) 4:01 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * They are presentational. Anything that displays data in the post database is presentational in my opinion. * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 4:01 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * Indeed. Custom queries of existing posts are not content creation. - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/27c0751de5ed93222d17118b8e8b3ea1f97be0c79dafaa270e454df903f1afd1? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [kevinhaig](https://profiles.wordpress.org/kevinhaig/) 4:02 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - ha we agree 🙂 - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/0138ef14da77b9261fdf0b83568bf7caa859d704d28586f62ea7cbc34631fe5c? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [ThemeZee](https://profiles.wordpress.org/themezee/) 4:15 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - Yeah, I thought so. - I included that example to make sure that custom widgets are not forbidded in general 🙂 * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 4:20 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * A custom widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user. isn’t any particular content type. 🙂 30. ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/27c0751de5ed93222d17118b8e8b3ea1f97be0c79dafaa270e454df903f1afd1? s=32&d=mm&r=g) 31. [kevinhaig](https://profiles.wordpress.org/kevinhaig/) 4:05 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 32. Static Home Pages populated by option data should be allowed. 33. As a compromise I feel authors should be able to populate a static home page with option content. 34. Static home pages are an important part of a WordPress website, as important as a blog, or styling in a theme. Authors need to be able to distinguish their themes not only with styling or layout, but with a distinct home page. 35. I think it is more difficult to control the look and content of a home page outside a theme, unless a pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory [https://wordpress.org/plugins/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/) or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party. essentially duplicates the integration of a static home page with the theme. In such a case, it seems better to have it in the theme in the first place. 36. To suggest content is lost when a user switches a theme is a bit presumptuous. I would suggest you survey to find out what users build a theme without some sort of Notepad type backup of content. Configuration is lost, but I suspect in most cases content is not. When you switch themes you will always lose configuration. 37. I have changed a lot of websites myself, and never had a problem re-configuring a home page. In fact it provides an opportunity to revisit your content. 38. * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 4:09 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * What specific type of front-page content? - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/27c0751de5ed93222d17118b8e8b3ea1f97be0c79dafaa270e454df903f1afd1? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [kevinhaig](https://profiles.wordpress.org/kevinhaig/) 4:11 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - images, titles, textareas with htmlHTML HTML is an acronym for Hyper Text Markup Language. It is a markup language that is used in the development of web pages and websites. * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/27c0751de5ed93222d17118b8e8b3ea1f97be0c79dafaa270e454df903f1afd1? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [kevinhaig](https://profiles.wordpress.org/kevinhaig/) 4:11 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * and of course links - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 4:14 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - Links to what? * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 4:13 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * A “textarea” isn’t a content type. What is the content being displayed? * Images: where/how are the images created? * Titles: titles of what? - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/27c0751de5ed93222d17118b8e8b3ea1f97be0c79dafaa270e454df903f1afd1? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [kevinhaig](https://profiles.wordpress.org/kevinhaig/) 4:17 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - Is all this critical to the discussion? It is content. - A title is a line of text. An image is a link to a image uploaded by media uploader textarea with htmlHTML HTML is an acronym for Hyper Text Markup Language. It is a markup language that is used in the development of web pages and websites. is ……well content with html??? * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 4: 22 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * Yes, it is critical. The type of content is what we’re discussing. * An image uploaded by the media uploader is an image in the media manager, and not defined by the Theme. * An arbitrary bit of content and HTMLHTML HTML is an acronym for Hyper Text Markup Language. It is a markup language that is used in the development of web pages and websites. is precisely what a coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. text widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user. is for – title included. - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3ee25ec15c79a0ce794f8e935172908bcf82b3173be6a641e10eaaf2e991ac97? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [Towfiq I.](https://profiles.wordpress.org/tislam100/) 4:24 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - You cant add links, bold text, italic text, images with coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. text widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user. without knowing htmlHTML HTML is an acronym for Hyper Text Markup Language. It is a markup language that is used in the development of web pages and websites.. do you realize that? * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 4: 27 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * What’s the point? - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/27c0751de5ed93222d17118b8e8b3ea1f97be0c79dafaa270e454df903f1afd1? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [kevinhaig](https://profiles.wordpress.org/kevinhaig/) 4:26 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - Using the supplied text widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user. is not practical. Setting it up for proper presentation would be ridiculously complicated. * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 4: 27 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * Why? It’s just CSSCSS CSS is an acronym for cascading style sheets. This is what controls the design or look and feel of a site.. - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3ee25ec15c79a0ce794f8e935172908bcf82b3173be6a641e10eaaf2e991ac97? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [Towfiq I.](https://profiles.wordpress.org/tislam100/) 4:31 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - [@chipbennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) you said“ An arbitrary bit of content and HTMLHTML HTML is an acronym for Hyper Text Markup Language. It is a markup language that is used in the development of web pages and websites. is precisely what a coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. text widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user. is for – title included.” end users cant add html content becuase they are not devs. They dont know how to use html to include links, images, bold text, italic text etc in the text widget. So creating html content with text widget is not possible for endusers hence you statement is incorrect. * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 4: 33 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * I find that to be an unnecessarily condescending view of end users. I would also say that a rich-text WidgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user., in general, is PluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory [https://wordpress.org/plugins/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/) or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party. territory. - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/27c0751de5ed93222d17118b8e8b3ea1f97be0c79dafaa270e454df903f1afd1? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [kevinhaig](https://profiles.wordpress.org/kevinhaig/) 4:34 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - OK….example - You have a linked centered image, title, and underneath, you have a paragraph in a service box. Now you have three service boxes across the page. You want to give users the choice of using a font icon instead of an image. - To facilitate all this in a widgetized area is ridiculous. - You would need at least 9 widgetized areas, or have the user extremely knowledgeable in htmlHTML HTML is an acronym for Hyper Text Markup Language. It is a markup language that is used in the development of web pages and websites.. * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 4: 37 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * Linked centered image, title, with paragraph beneath. This all * could* be done using nothing more than the coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. image handling (image, image title, image description), but I would think that this would be trivial, and don’t see a major issue with a Theme defining image title/description. * Service boxes: this starts to border on pseudo-CPTs. This is the meat of the “gray area” that we need to discuss. - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/27c0751de5ed93222d17118b8e8b3ea1f97be0c79dafaa270e454df903f1afd1? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [kevinhaig](https://profiles.wordpress.org/kevinhaig/) 4:39 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - Wow….that’s all I can say 🙁 - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/27c0751de5ed93222d17118b8e8b3ea1f97be0c79dafaa270e454df903f1afd1? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [kevinhaig](https://profiles.wordpress.org/kevinhaig/) 5:24 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - I am fully aware of the image caption and description….I use it in portfolio pages. - You forgot to account for the option in the example to use a font icon instead of an image? - If using options to upload the image, the user then has to go to the media manager, find the image and input caption and description. When it could all be done at once in the options panel. I realize there is probably a way to populate the image caption and description from the options panel, but still what about the font icon case? Overall the user experience is not as good I think. - Also you have to remember, developers like myself are not as expert as you are in WordPress. Trivial solutions to you (I find that a slap in the face by the way), are not that obvious for some developers. It’s like you have to jump through hoops and to find a solution so we are not adding content. - This kind of content likely has to be reviewed and re-done anyway on a theme change. Because the format of a Static Home Page will be different. * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 5: 48 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * > I am fully aware of the image caption and description….I use > it in portfolio pages. > You forgot to account for the option in the example to use a > font icon instead of an image? * Like I said: an icon font character is trivial content. * > If using options to upload the image, the user then has to go > to the media manager, find the image and input caption and description. > When it could all be done at once in the options panel. I realize > there is probably a way to populate the image caption and description > from the options panel, but still what about the font icon case? > Overall the user experience is not as good I think. * Which is primarily the reason that I agree with you: ad-hoc title/ description for an image in that case is trivial content. * Also you have to remember, developers like myself are not as expert as you are in WordPress. Trivial solutions to you (I find that a slap in the face by the way), are not that obvious for some developers. * I have not said that any particular implementation or solution is trivial. I have only said that certain _content types_ are trivial– and as such, would be acceptable for Themes to define/create. * > It’s like you have to jump through hoops and to find a solution > so we are not adding content. * I’m also not looking to “jump through hoops” to avoid creating content. There are cases where I’m pointing out that there are coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. alternatives. Even if the ultimate conclusion is that certain content types are acceptable for Themes to define (and it’s clear that there are), why is it a problem (or an insult, even), to try to point out alternative approaches that use core methods? * > This kind of content likely has to be reviewed and re-done anyway > on a theme change. Because the format of a Static Home Page will > be different. * In some cases, yes. but not in all cases. - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3ee25ec15c79a0ce794f8e935172908bcf82b3173be6a641e10eaaf2e991ac97? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [Towfiq I.](https://profiles.wordpress.org/tislam100/) 4:38 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - So you are saying that most users who use WordPress knows htmlHTML HTML is an acronym for Hyper Text Markup Language. It is a markup language that is used in the development of web pages and websites.? Are you talking from experience? I have been providing support for my themes for 6 years through 20k support tickets and I KNOW Most people who uses WordPress DONT KNOW HTML. - What you are trying to do is make WordPress accessible to only those who knows html. * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 4:41 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * No, I didn’t say that most users know HTMLHTML HTML is an acronym for Hyper Text Markup Language. It is a markup language that is used in the development of web pages and websites.. I said that an arbitrary rich- text widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user. is PluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory [https://wordpress.org/plugins/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/) or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party. territory. - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3ee25ec15c79a0ce794f8e935172908bcf82b3173be6a641e10eaaf2e991ac97? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [Towfiq I.](https://profiles.wordpress.org/tislam100/) 4:42 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - who said anything about a rich text widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user.? * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 4: 43 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * A rich-text widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user. is exactly what you’re talking about: a text widget, with the ability to add formatting and HTMLHTML HTML is an acronym for Hyper Text Markup Language. It is a markup language that is used in the development of web pages and websites. links. - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3ee25ec15c79a0ce794f8e935172908bcf82b3173be6a641e10eaaf2e991ac97? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [Towfiq I.](https://profiles.wordpress.org/tislam100/) 4:48 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - No I am not talking about Rich Text widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user.. Please read again. I am saying that content creation through theme options/customizerCustomizer Tool built into WordPress core that hooks into most modern themes. You can use it to preview and modify many of your site’s appearance settings. for Theme Frontpage should be allowed as it was allowed for past 4 years. and your proposed method => “htmlHTML HTML is an acronym for Hyper Text Markup Language. It is a markup language that is used in the development of web pages and websites. content creation for frontpage with coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. text widget” is not a feasible solution. thats what I tried to say in my previous comments. * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 4: 55 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * And I am asking for specific types of content that you want the Theme to create. Not the format of the content, but the type of content. - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/eb5d081232974bf03b5342543996762577822cf6c5f5e61d0200ed7a413a145a? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [acosmin](https://profiles.wordpress.org/acosmin/) 4:48 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - I think he is talking about a widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user. that has a few more input fields besides a textarea - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3ee25ec15c79a0ce794f8e935172908bcf82b3173be6a641e10eaaf2e991ac97? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [Towfiq I.](https://profiles.wordpress.org/tislam100/) 5:04 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - [@chipbennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) Lets say I am talking about a theme link this one, which has few sections like a cta section and a services blocks section. [https://goo.gl/eEotSz](https://goo.gl/eEotSz) - you are saying that, all those sections should be created with coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. text widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user. by the end users. Which will require them to learn htmlHTML HTML is an acronym for Hyper Text Markup Language. It is a markup language that is used in the development of web pages and websites. because they will need to add images, links, buttons etc. So ultimately, to use that theme you will have to know html..how is that a feasible solution? * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 5: 06 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * I am saying no such thing. I am asking for examples of different content types, for specific discussion about each specific content type. A CTA is one type of content. “Services” are a different kind of content. * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3ee25ec15c79a0ce794f8e935172908bcf82b3173be6a641e10eaaf2e991ac97? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Towfiq I.](https://profiles.wordpress.org/tislam100/) 5:16 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * [@chipbennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) I am not sure how they are different. kindly tell me how they are different. * and lets talk about the service blocks section. how should devs implement this type of sections in a theme without using theme options/customizerCustomizer Tool built into WordPress core that hooks into most modern themes. You can use it to preview and modify many of your site’s appearance settings.? 39. ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/05fc6de6acadfd2ef1f52a1c23d426d28c0c3e90e5875eded5991823c2e4672f? s=32&d=mm&r=g) 40. [cats_456](https://profiles.wordpress.org/cats_456/) 4:47 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 41. What is the correct way for creating section ‘our services’ on the front page without content creation? 42. * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 4:54 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * So, the content type is “services”? Again, this is that pseudo-CPT that needs to be discussed. - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3ee25ec15c79a0ce794f8e935172908bcf82b3173be6a641e10eaaf2e991ac97? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [Towfiq I.](https://profiles.wordpress.org/tislam100/) 4:55 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - what do you mean by pseudo-CPT? I have never headerHeader The header of your site is typically the first thing people will experience. The masthead or header art located across the top of your page is part of the look and feel of your website. It can influence a visitor’s opinion about your content and you/ your organization’s brand. It may also look different on different screen sizes. this term before. kindly elaborate? * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 4:58 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * Pseudo-custom post typeCustom Post Type WordPress can hold and display many different types of content. A single item of such a content is generally called a post, although post is also a specific post type. Custom Post Types gives your site the ability to have templated posts, to simplify the concept.. It is a “custom post type” in disguise. It has all the characteristics of a custom post type, but implemented using some other method (custom widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user., Theme option, etc.). - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/05fc6de6acadfd2ef1f52a1c23d426d28c0c3e90e5875eded5991823c2e4672f? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [cats_456](https://profiles.wordpress.org/cats_456/) 5:05 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - Pseudo menu. - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/05fc6de6acadfd2ef1f52a1c23d426d28c0c3e90e5875eded5991823c2e4672f? s=32&d=mm&r=g) - [cats_456](https://profiles.wordpress.org/cats_456/) 5:03 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 - No, this is not a content type. It is a menu with links to a pages (1 link for shop index, second link for portfolio index, third link for blog index). * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 5:10 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * A menu is a content type – in fact, it is a coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress.-defined post-type. * Now, if all you’re doing is displaying a link to a page, then you’re not creating content. If you’re displaying a page title, then you’re not creating content. If you’re pulling an excerptExcerpt An excerpt is the description of the blog post or page that will by default show on the blog archive page, in search results (SERPs), and on social media. With an SEO plugin, the excerpt may also be in that plugin’s metabox. from that page, then you’re not creating content. (Though you may need to enable support for excerpts for the page post-type). * If you’re assigning an icon to that link, then you’re creating content. However, I would think that the content would be trivial, and acceptable. 43. ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/521ebe7563b13f6ad89975ea9dac218d4acc3daa504ba531cdce76c7aa94656d? s=32&d=mm&r=g) 44. [Kadence Themes](https://profiles.wordpress.org/britner/) 7:06 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 45. Hey, Another example of “Front-page content sections”. For clarity I use these in my themes if you want to look. An option to add a home page slider through the theme options. The theme options has a place to choose a media file or multiple files from the media library and assign them to a slider that shows on the front page. I think it would be important to clarify if an option like this is going to be “out-of-scope” vs a call to action in the theme options. 46. * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7d256f7b605361e4dc402138e2896ff727d2a13d669f1420a8644d12a90bb7af? s=32&d=mm&r=g) * [Chip Bennett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/chipbennett/) 7:36 pm _on_ June 2, 2015 * “Front page content sections” is not specific. Front page is a location, not a content type.. * If you’re referring to sliders: the question is really a matter of what content the slider will display. 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