Title: I&#8217;d love your thoughts on adding two new&#8230;
Author: Lance Willett
Published: July 18, 2012

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 [  ](https://profiles.wordpress.org/lancewillett/) [Lance Willett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/lancewillett/)
6:47 pm _on_ July 18, 2012     
Tags: [core ( 4 )](https://make.wordpress.org/themes/tags/core/),
tags   

# I’d love your thoughts on adding two new…

I’d love your thoughts on adding two new tags to allowed theme tags: see https://
core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/21065.

[#core](https://make.wordpress.org/themes/tags/core/), [#tags](https://make.wordpress.org/themes/tags/tags/)

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 1.  ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/66100363deaf502bcb6a7200150bf4f3405f16f76c250b814c7d31714c1ae125?
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 2.   [Amy Hendrix (sabreuse)](https://profiles.wordpress.org/sabreuse/)  6:54 pm _on_
     July 18, 2012
 3.  +1 to both. There’s some ongoing discussion about what the review standards should
     be for responsive themes, but I see that as a separate issue to the question of
     having a tag — tags are about the fact that end users want to search for certain
     features, and responsive design isn’t a concept that’s going away any time soon.
     And flexible headers is an easy win.
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 5.   [Nicholas Weaver](http://nicholasbweaver.com)  7:25 pm _on_ July 18, 2012
 6.  I think this is a great idea, not only because its a feature on WordPress.comWordPress.
     com An online implementation of WordPress code that lets you immediately access
     a new WordPress environment to publish your content. WordPress.com is a private
     company owned by Automattic that hosts the largest multisite in the world. This
     is arguably the best place to start blogging if you have never touched WordPress
     before. [https://wordpress.com/](https://wordpress.com/) already but because I
     often want to change the size dimensions (height more so then width) in twenty
     ten and twenty eleven as I use those themes for almost everything I do with WordPress.
 7.  Adding the ‘flexible-headerHeader The header of your site is typically the first
     thing people will experience. The masthead or header art located across the top
     of your page is part of the look and feel of your website. It can influence a 
     visitor’s opinion about your content and you/ your organization’s brand. It may
     also look different on different screen sizes.’ tag & allowing 3.4 compatible 
     themes the ability to use the custom header feature is a must as far as I am concerned.
 8.  Adding the ‘responsive-width’ tag isn’t a bad idea. I think as people’s expectations
     of themes, to be responsive, increases, this will be a patch you will have to 
     make down the road, if you decide against it now. Definitely a step in the right
     direction.
 9.  I appreciate you reaching out to me for my thoughts and I’d love to help out more
     in whatever way I can!
 10. side note: 🙂 I apologize for the lack of Weekly Theme Shows as of late, we are
     really trying to get the right fit and structure down for the show to make it 
     worthwhile to everyone who listens.
 11.  * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/66100363deaf502bcb6a7200150bf4f3405f16f76c250b814c7d31714c1ae125?
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      *  [Amy Hendrix (sabreuse)](https://profiles.wordpress.org/sabreuse/)  7:30 pm
        _on_ July 18, 2012
      * Note that the features are up for grabs and any theme developer to use, and
        flex headers in particular are already in both Twenty Ten and Twenty Eleven—
        the question here is about adding the tags to the filtered search so users 
        can specifically search for themes that include them.
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           s=32&d=mm&r=g)
         -  [Nicholas Weaver](http://nicholasbweaver.com)  7:36 pm _on_ July 18, 2012
         - Ah, gotcha. Yeah i read trough that track ticket a little to quickly.
         - Themes with those abilities are something I actively look for when dealing
           with clients, hence the heavy usage of twenty ten and twenty eleven. Being
           able to do a filtered search for themes with these features would be extremely
           beneficial, save time, and help to better qualify themes for selection/download,
           in my opinion.
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     s=32&d=mm&r=g)
 13.  [Emil Uzelac](https://profiles.wordpress.org/emiluzelac/)  9:28 pm _on_ July 
     18, 2012
 14. There’s no doubt that this isn’t needed, both are definitive (yay).
 15. To check if Theme is using RWD and how much of that’s true will take as much as
     time as the standard review. No point really going there, unless there are some
     obvious issues.
 16. RWD is not just the layout, it’s everything else around it, such as images, videos,
     typography etc.
 17. If an author says that their design is layout super, we can take their word for
     it. If it’s not it will be classified as false “advertisement” (Theme Description).
 18. Emil
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 20.  [Konstantin Kovshenin](https://profiles.wordpress.org/kovshenin/)  8:30 am _on_
     July 19, 2012
 21. I like both feature tags, though I wouldn’t use “responsive-width” for several
     reasons:
 22.  * it’s not clear (for the end users) how responsive-width differs from flexible-
        width
      * media queries can contain `max-height` too
      * separate stylesheets (and even markup) based on user agent strings (without
        media queries) achieve the same goals, except that we don’t get that funky 
        effect we all love, when resizing our browser windows 🙂
 23. I think the feature should be called mobile-friendly, device-friendly or okay,
     maybe responsive-layout, but it should not fall under the width column in the 
     tag filterFilter Filters are one of the two types of Hooks [https://codex.wordpress.org/Plugin_API/Hooks](https://codex.wordpress.org/Plugin_API/Hooks).
     They provide a way for functions to modify data of other functions. They are the
     counterpart to Actions. Unlike Actions, filters are meant to work in an isolated
     manner, and should never have side effects such as affecting global variables 
     and output.: [https://wordpress.org/extend/themes/tag-filter/](https://wordpress.org/extend/themes/tag-filter/)
 24. Just my two cents 🙂 I’d like to hear your opinion.
 25.  * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/f91149d655faaebfe941e8991eaba1d4a4e0c42c2200f1053ff4cbb7f13ff1d2?
        s=32&d=mm&r=g)
      *  [Lance Willett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/lancewillett/)  1:42 am _on_
        July 20, 2012
      * Those are good points, it could be hard to explain “responsive-width” from “
        flexible-width” as you said, but I think it still stands on its own.
      * I do think it’s better to add to the width categoryCategory The 'category' 
        taxonomy lets you group posts / content together that share a common bond. 
        Categories are pre-defined and broad ranging. rather than not adding it at 
        all—themes need to be able to be categorized by having responsive design.
      * Should we update the width category to something new? Like “Layout” and change
        it to fixed, responsive, and fluid? (Flexible is ambiguous—I prefer fluid for
        themes with a liquid, fluid layout.)
         - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/d90a938633be46488e62828ea10317d70e8d039bdd5070f5760139ca91a38362?
           s=32&d=mm&r=g)
         -  [Konstantin Kovshenin](https://profiles.wordpress.org/kovshenin/)  2:50
           pm _on_ August 2, 2012
         - Hi, sorry never subscribed to this thread after posting.
         - > After discussion on Make Themes, I think a better approach is to rename
           > “
           > Widths” terms to “Layout” and change the three allowed values to “Fixed,
           > Fluid, Resonsive”.
         - Yes please! 🙂
 26. ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/f91149d655faaebfe941e8991eaba1d4a4e0c42c2200f1053ff4cbb7f13ff1d2?
     s=32&d=mm&r=g)
 27.  [Lance Willett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/lancewillett/)  1:44 am _on_ July
     20, 2012
 28. By the way—if anyone wants a fun read—we’ve developed a much broader taxonomyTaxonomy
     A taxonomy is a way to group things together. In WordPress, some common taxonomies
     are category, link, tag, or post format. [https://codex.wordpress.org/Taxonomies#Default_Taxonomies](https://codex.wordpress.org/Taxonomies#Default_Taxonomies).
     for categorizing themes including new terms for Subject and Style: [https://wpcom-themes.svn.automattic.com/demo/theme-taxonomy.txt](https://wpcom-themes.svn.automattic.com/demo/theme-taxonomy.txt).
 29. It’s in use heavily on [http://theme.wordpress.com/themes/](http://theme.wordpress.com/themes/)
     and has been well-received by people looking for themes fitting a certain look
     or style.
 30. Someday I’d like to rework the coreCore Core is the set of software required to
     run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. list to include this,
     if possible.
 31. ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/f91149d655faaebfe941e8991eaba1d4a4e0c42c2200f1053ff4cbb7f13ff1d2?
     s=32&d=mm&r=g)
 32.  [Lance Willett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/lancewillett/)  5:55 pm _on_ August
     1, 2012
 33. Update: I split out the “flexible-headerHeader The header of your site is typically
     the first thing people will experience. The masthead or header art located across
     the top of your page is part of the look and feel of your website. It can influence
     a visitor’s opinion about your content and you/ your organization’s brand. It 
     may also look different on different screen sizes.” and the proposed changes to
     width -> layout into a new ticket.
 34. See [https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/21442](https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/21442)
     for the proposal and [https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/21065](https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/21065)
     for just the flexible-header change.
 35. ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/f91149d655faaebfe941e8991eaba1d4a4e0c42c2200f1053ff4cbb7f13ff1d2?
     s=32&d=mm&r=g)
 36.  [Lance Willett](https://profiles.wordpress.org/lancewillett/)  11:53 pm _on_ 
     August 24, 2012
 37. The flexible-headerHeader The header of your site is typically the first thing
     people will experience. The masthead or header art located across the top of your
     page is part of the look and feel of your website. It can influence a visitor’s
     opinion about your content and you/ your organization’s brand. It may also look
     different on different screen sizes. tag is now in coreCore Core is the set of
     software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress.
     with [r21604](https://core.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/21604).

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