Title: FSE Program All Things Media Summary
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Published: February 25, 2022
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# FSE Program All Things Media Summary

This post is a summary of the All Things Media exploration for the FSE Outreach 
Program. Coming out of a pause from 5.9, it was so encouraging and wonderful to 
see the wider community help out with this exploration in the following ways: 

 * [@atachibana](https://profiles.wordpress.org/atachibana/) and @mimi-tops launched
   a [Japanese translation of the call for testing](https://ja.wordpress.org/team/2022/02/04/2637/).
 * [@piermario](https://profiles.wordpress.org/piermario/) shared an [Italian translation of the call for testing](https://it.wordpress.org/team/2022/02/07/esplorazione-per-il-programma-fse-tutto-quello-che-fa-media/).
 * [@courane01](https://profiles.wordpress.org/courane01/) ran a [lovely group testing session with GoDaddy](https://events.godaddy.com/events/details/godaddy-events-godaddy-pro-online-presents-call-for-testing-wordpress-media/)
   and reported back the findings. 
 * [@aurooba](https://profiles.wordpress.org/aurooba/) for running a live stream
   of the exploration and sharing feedback. 

Shout out to the following folks as first-time contributors to a call for testing:
[@patrick-b](https://profiles.wordpress.org/patrick-b/), [@ndiego](https://profiles.wordpress.org/ndiego/),
[@beckej](https://profiles.wordpress.org/beckej/), [@lidialab](https://profiles.wordpress.org/lidialab/).
Get excited – you now have a testing contributor badge on your WordPress profile!

**High-level summary**

While normally, there are some overall sentiments to share, this exploration was
so wide ranging it’s hard to pull out a few quotes to ground the following feedback
in. Instead, here are some patterns seen across the varying areas below that help
bring together the feedback more cohesively: 

 * Emphases on making attribution easy while also allowing for the ability to filterFilter
   Filters are one of the two types of Hooks [https://codex.wordpress.org/Plugin_API/Hooks](https://codex.wordpress.org/Plugin_API/Hooks).
   They provide a way for functions to modify data of other functions. They are 
   the counterpart to Actions. Unlike Actions, filters are meant to work in an isolated
   manner, and should never have side effects such as affecting global variables
   and output. out images that require it, as few seem keen to use images that would.
 * Inconsistency with tooling, whether using duotone to select a custom color or
   trying to crop an image in a gallery blockBlock Block is the abstract term used
   to describe units of markup that, composed together, form the content or layout
   of a webpage using the WordPress editor. The idea combines concepts of what in
   the past may have achieved with shortcodes, custom HTML, and embed discovery 
   into a single consistent API and user experience.. 
 * Desire for more expansive options, including featured images and adding YouTube
   videos as a background. 
 * Simplifying layout controls and increase in patterns to make it easier to place
   your content exactly as you’d like in a HeaderHeader The header of your site 
   is typically the first thing people will experience. The masthead or header art
   located across the top of your page is part of the look and feel of your website.
   It can influence a visitor’s opinion about your content and you/ your organization’s
   brand. It may also look different on different screen sizes. or as a full width
   visual. 

In each section, the items are divided when appropriate into previously reported
vs new categories in order to better understand what was underscored as part of 
this exploration compared to what was found. 

**Confirmed bugs**

Listed below are confirmed bugs that break expected functionality or the experience
of different features. 

_Previously reported: _

 * [Gallery block refactor: rotating image forces all images](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/30362)
   in row to the same aspect ratio.
 * [Duplicated navigation blocks and template parts can not be edited](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/30276)
   without also changing the original.
 * [Duoto](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/31662#issuecomment-1039823088)
   [n](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/31662#issuecomment-1039823088)
   [e doesn’t work with a fixed background](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/31662#issuecomment-1039823088).
 * [Double scrollbar in the Site Editor](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/30055#issuecomment-1048237710)
   leading to a splitting in the editor and extra gray space.
 * [Custom Image sizes are not responsive in the editor](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/38381)
   resulting in a strange experience when adding images since they are added at 
   100% but selecting 100% causes the image to change size.

_New issues: _

 * [Cropping tools are broken in the site editor](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/38557).
 * [Image Block: Border settings don’t work when cropping/rotating](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/38801).
 * [Deleting value of dimensions resets to px](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/38872).
 * [Site Editor: multi selecting blocks causes the editor to jump to the top](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/38803)
   creating a jarring experience. 
 * [Inconsistent undo/redo behavior with navigation block](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/38970)
   in the Site Editor.
 * [Site Editor: undo/redo causes editor to jump.](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/39000)
 * [Cover block: text over image align center center doesn’t work](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/38869)(
   fixed)

> _The default dimension is highlighted as 100% but in-fact if clicking on 100% 
> again usually modifies the image size on the editor. It is a bit confusing. _
> @alanjacobmathew in [this comment](https://make.wordpress.org/test/2022/02/02/fse-program-exploration-all-things-media/#comment-2324).

**Feature Requests**

Throughout each of these feature requests, there’s a clear desire for better and
more consistent tooling, from background support in Group blocks to having a focal
point picker for a featured imageFeatured image A featured image is the main image
used on your blog archive page and is pulled when the post or page is shared on 
social media. The image can be used to display in widget areas on your site or in
a summary list of posts.. It’s obvious there’s a dance to get right in adding more
features while also creating a more consistent and intuitive experience in handling
media in the Site Editor. 

Previously reported: 

 * [Auto-select the alphabetical choice in forward-slash inserter command](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/37532#)
   so that when using the slash inserter the image comes up before imgur embed as
   a more common use case.
 * [Gallery block refactor: Replacing a captioned image with one without caption retains the caption](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/34862#).
 * [Add Youtube or similar video service using an embed URL in the background of the Cover block](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/28860#).
   This would make it much easier to have a video in the background of a header.
 * [Resize controls for embeds](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/14805)
   to make them easier to customize and to bring parity with other image blocks.
 * [Add background support to Group block](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/pull/38784).
 * [Make Featured Image size controls available in Site Editor](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/38211).
 * [Rethink featured image](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/27617)
   in the context of full site editing to unlock more advanced and interesting patterns,
   amongst other things.
 * [Add capability to set default format for image sub-sizes.](https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/52867)
 * [Allow borders on image, group, cover blocks](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/21540#).
 * [Try having captions as an inner block of an Image block](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/pull/31823)
   for greater control. 

New: 

 * [Add ability to turn off double confirmation multi-entity saving screen](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/38714).
 * [Update preview icons in Media Library](https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/55164).
 * [Ability to add multiple background images to any block](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/38796)
   to allow for a creative lift. 
 * [Add opacity controls to all image blocks](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/38799).
 * [Consider adding a focal point picker](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/38899)
   to the Post Featured Image Block so one could set where a featured image is focused.
 * [Explore ways of showing where template parts are used in other templates](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/38967)
   to better understand how changes might impact the wider site.
 * [Provide a way to turn off Openverse integration when the time comes](https://github.com/WordPress/openverse/issues/167).
 * [Add helper text to Cover Block’s min height field](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/38875#).
 * [Integrate media related patterns into the Media Library](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/38558).

> _Where one can define specifics on upload. Is it a bmp or other none web format
> have it be converted to a jpg. Have larger images downscaled to a kind of max 
> image size. Etc.  _
> @paaljoachim in [this comment](https://make.wordpress.org/test/2022/02/02/fse-program-exploration-all-things-media/#comment-2303)

> _A uniform way to import images from external sources. There’s some inconsistency
> here that can be very confusing. _
> @trynet in [this comment](https://make.wordpress.org/test/2022/02/02/fse-program-exploration-all-things-media/#comment-2320).

> _Having a way to include Featured images in a variety of blocks, such as Cover,
> would be amazing. This is in scope for 6.0, but it’s the biggest thing I would
> like to see regarding media and would enable a lot of interesting patterns. _
> @ndiego in [this comment](https://make.wordpress.org/test/2022/02/02/fse-program-exploration-all-things-media/#comment-2331).

> _However, I would like to see a range of filters available to users. If this is
> too much for coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The
> Core Development Team builds WordPress., perhaps a standard filter-registration
> system for developers might be in order. _
> @greenshady in [this WP Tavern post](https://wptavern.com/fse-program-the-media-experience-and-its-future-in-wordpress).

**General Usability Feedback**

As seen in other calls for testing, the experience of easily manipulating a Header
proved difficult, whether trying to add a background image, trying to get alignments
exactly right with your Site Logo, or in using various aspects of duotone. Tied 
to this, confusion continues around Layout controls with simple tasks like making
a Cover block full width proving to be frustrating and further underscoring the 
need to simplify these concepts. 

Previously reported:

 * [General difficulty around adding a background image to one’s header](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/29238)
   and the level of insight into FSE that’s required to do so.
 * [Image cropping in gallery block doesn’t work well](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/29957)
   due to the small space to make changes.  
 * [General desire for an improve UX of image crop/edit tools](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/23721)
   to streamline the ability to do things like just rotate an image without needing
   to first select the option to crop.  
 * [Simplify layout controls](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/36082)
   with multiple examples around how the complexity of Layout controls causing confusing
   experiences with alignment options feeling like they are missing or not working.
 * [Implement “Site Brand” patterns](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/34123#issuecomment-1043632416)
   as a way to help resolve issues with layout and row block configuration since
   it can be tricky to get things to line up as you want. 
 * [When duplicating a Navigation or Template Part block](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/30276),
   it’s not clear why changing one changes the other, making the experience feel
   broken and convoluted. 

New: 

 * [Block settings jump to top when adjusting duotone and alignment the first time](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/38870)
   disrupting one’s workflow.
 * [Percentage option for various block settings are confusing to use](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/38871)
   and reactReact React is a JavaScript library that makes it easy to reason about,
   construct, and maintain stateless and stateful user interfaces. [https://reactjs.org](https://reactjs.org/)
   in unexpected ways, opening the decision around whether to include them by default
   for users.  
 * [Make top level duotone color selection more intuitive and consistent](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/38898).
 * [Make it easier to turn duotone on/off](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/38556)
   in order to quickly see at a glance how duotone is impacting an image. 
 * [Improve duotone popover experience to keep the popover open](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/38797).

> _I went down a weird rabbit hole where I couldn’t figure out why we had the header
> block and the header template parts. I mean, what if I wanted to have two different
> headers with wildly different information in them? Whenever I changed the main
> header block (anything living inside it), it changed it in all the header template
> parts, and I found that very confusing and frustrating. I ended up removing the
> header block inside the header templates and keeping things just in groups. That
> made way more sense to me_.
> @aurooba in [this comment](https://make.wordpress.org/test/2022/02/02/fse-program-exploration-all-things-media/#comment-2312).

> _I had trouble making my cover image full width. It’s still a bit odd to me that
> some controls only show up in certain situations, and in this case, because my
> cover was part of a group, I couldn’t make the cover full width. I’ve been teaching
> people to use that list view to try to get around that. _
> @beckej in [this comment](https://make.wordpress.org/test/2022/02/02/fse-program-exploration-all-things-media/#comment-2325).

> _This is tricky and I bet is the hardest step. “Header” is not clearly defined.
> I bet most folks would go into the Site Editor and try to add a background image
> to the Header template part block. Also most block-themes have a Group block wrapping
> the inner content of the Header part, and Group blocks also do not support image
> backgrounds (yet). So you have to modify the content in your Header by placing
> it inside of a Cover block and then add a background image to the Cover block.
> This takes a LOT of in depth knowledge of the Site Editor to accomplish. _
> @ndiego in [this comment](https://make.wordpress.org/test/2022/02/02/fse-program-exploration-all-things-media/#comment-2331).

> _Say I’m editing the padding dimension, then goes to modify the duotone, the entire
> right sidebarSidebar A sidebar in WordPress is referred to a widget-ready area
> used by WordPress themes to display information that is not a part of the main
> content. It is not always a vertical column on the side. It can be a horizontal
> rectangle below or above the content area, footer, header, or any where in the
> theme. goes to the top(back to media settings) and opens all the closed settings,
> which affects the user workflow. This also happens when changing the ‘alignment’
> to ‘none’ or ‘full width’. _
> @alanjacobmathew in [this comment](https://make.wordpress.org/test/2022/02/02/fse-program-exploration-all-things-media/#comment-2324).

> _If I insert 2 headers, applying changes to one affects both the header. Don’t
> know why it is happening. _
> @alanjacobmathew in [this comment](https://make.wordpress.org/test/2022/02/02/fse-program-exploration-all-things-media/#comment-2324).

**Thoughts on attribution**

We chatted about this on the [hallway hangout for this exploration](https://make.wordpress.org/test/2022/02/16/hallway-hangout-all-things-media/)(
[starting at 16:00](https://youtu.be/MmdgTuVJ9hc?t=960) and again [around 26:58](https://youtu.be/MmdgTuVJ9hc?t=1618))
with thoughts on how to learn from tools like Pressbooks, how to make attributions
more magical by reusing theme styles when adding them, and how to encourage best
practices for folks. In general, folks were not keen to use images that required
attribution as one can see in the quotes below.

 * When exploring integration to WordPress, [enable the ability to filter by license and usage](https://github.com/WordPress/openverse/issues/166).
 * [Review Pressbooks approach to built in attribution in the media library](https://github.com/WordPress/openverse/issues/168).
 * [Allow a way to determine how attribution are displayed in templates](https://github.com/WordPress/openverse/issues/170).

> _This question evoked a strong negative reaction for me. I don’t know it means
> that attribution info wouldn’t be removable? Would it be watermarked on the image?
> Are we talking about metadata. Either way, if you can’t remove attribution from
> an image visually, I would never use such an image or images from such a resource._
> @aurooba in [this comment](https://make.wordpress.org/test/2022/02/02/fse-program-exploration-all-things-media/#comment-2312).

> _As long as we gave end users a few options, I really like the idea of making 
> it easy for others to utilize the open-licensed images, and help guide them to
> do best practices. _
> @beckej in [this comment](https://make.wordpress.org/test/2022/02/02/fse-program-exploration-all-things-media/#comment-2325).

> _I understand why this would be necessary in some circumstances, but I personally
> would not use such an image on my site._
> @ndiego in [this comment](https://make.wordpress.org/test/2022/02/02/fse-program-exploration-all-things-media/#comment-2331).

> _It’d be great to have a way from the media library or block settings to append
> any attribution required AND define where that displayed in templates. I’d like
> to display the attribution before post comments and after post content. _
> @courane01 in [this comment](https://make.wordpress.org/test/2022/02/02/fse-program-exploration-all-things-media/#comment-2337).

**General insights/questions** **on other photo libraries**

We chatted about this on the [hallway hangout for this exploration](https://make.wordpress.org/test/2022/02/16/hallway-hangout-all-things-media/)(
[starting around 24:41](https://youtu.be/MmdgTuVJ9hc?t=1481)) mainly discussing 
how important it is that an open sourceOpen Source Open Source denotes software 
for which the original source code is made freely available and may be redistributed
and modified. Open Source **must be** delivered via a licensing model, see GPL. 
solution rivals a paid one. Generally speaking, folks mentioned the following external
image libraries outside of Openverse: Unsplash, Rawpixel, Pexels. Some questions
remain as you can see in the quote below:

> _How might this work for other media types, such as audio and video? Would we 
> want to hotlink it/embed from the source? What’s the risk if the media later is
> no longer hosted there? But also: hosting many audio and video files within most
> hosting environments is not ideal. If we make it easier to move mixed media from
> Openverse to the Media Library, what are the trade-offs? _
> @courane01 in [this comment](https://make.wordpress.org/test/2022/02/02/fse-program-exploration-all-things-media/#comment-2337).

**Desire for improved media management**

A longstanding conversation in the WordPress project is around having better media
management from folders to better filtering and more. This desire held up with a
discussion around whether Openverse might be able to solve some of these issues 
as a media hub. Here’s a video from [@paaljoachim](https://profiles.wordpress.org/paaljoachim/)
expanding on the idea:

> _This has been a longstanding request in the WordPress community, but better media
> management in the Media Library (i.e. folders) would be extremely helpful, especially
> for site with 100s of images. _
> @ndiego in [this comment](https://make.wordpress.org/test/2022/02/02/fse-program-exploration-all-things-media/#comment-2331).

**Watch feedback videos**

Folks were kind enough to record videos of themselves walking through the experience
that I wanted to reshare below as it’s neat to see folks in a great bandwidth medium
share their thoughts:

From [@paaljoachim](https://profiles.wordpress.org/paaljoachim/).

ExcerptExcerpt An excerpt is the description of the blog post or page that will 
by default show on the blog archive page, in search results (SERPs), and on social
media. With an SEO plugin, the excerpt may also be in that plugin’s metabox. from
[@aurooba](https://profiles.wordpress.org/aurooba/) stream.

From [@beckej](https://profiles.wordpress.org/beckej/).

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