Ulrich 7:21 am on June 17, 2012
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Hello Is Serbian Latin supported by WordPress The…

Hello,
Is Serbian Latin supported by WordPress?
The reason I am asking is that we translated the theme Responsive to Serbian Latin and I am unsure how to name the file. I did see somewhere sr_lat but I am not sure if it is correct.
https://wordpress.org/extend/themes/responsive

P.s. We still have 9 segments untranslated in Italian if anyone is interested in helping out.
https://webtranslateit.com/en/projects/3598-Responsive-Theme

#request

Milan Dinić 10:45 am on June 17, 2012

I’m maintainer of Serbian localizationLocalization Localization (sometimes shortened to "l10n") is the process of adapting a product or service to a particular language, culture, and desired local "look-and-feel.". We don’t have a separate Latin “language” as there is no need for it. As per agreement, all translations are done in Cyrillic and we ship a plugin that when enabled, transliterates all stringsString A string is a translatable part of the software. A translation consists of a multitude of localized strings. on the fly so we have both options.

PluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party or theme doesn’t need a Latin translation since with Cyrillic you have both.

Who did translation? I see some grammatical errors and also wrong terminology for some words. I would gladly fix it.
- grapplerulrich 11:31 am on June 17, 2012
  
  We do have two translators at the moment and one did mention that the Latin version had some mistakes. I would really appreciate it if you could make the changes. Just send a request and I will accept it. Thanks.
  - Milan Dinić 6:32 pm on June 17, 2012
    
    I’ve sent a request.
    - grapplerulrich 6:34 pm on June 17, 2012
      
      Excepted 🙂
      - Milan Dinić 6:44 pm on June 17, 2012
        
        Hm, I still get an error “You don’t have the permission to translate this segment. If you think this is an error, please contact support.”
      - grapplerulrich 6:49 pm on June 17, 2012
        
        Sorry, it is a two step process and I forgot the second step. Sorry 🙁
      - Milan Dinić 9:41 pm on June 17, 2012
        
        OK, I’ve gone through all stringsString A string is a translatable part of the software. A translation consists of a multitude of localized strings.. I have some comments but will leave them until I see translation in action.
- eboye 11:47 am on June 8, 2017
  
  Hmm, I partially agree that Serbian Cyrillic gives you both. While it can be used with transliteration, other plugins (even those supported by WP) are not making Latin versions. And for example JetPack comments are using iframes to show some elements which are hosted on their servers and those lines can not be transliterated. If there is Serbian Latin, than 3rd party plugins would be making support and the life would be much easier 🙂
  - Milan Dinić 12:05 pm on June 8, 2017
    
    On WordPress.comWordPress.com An online implementation of WordPress code that lets you immediately access a new WordPress environment to publish your content. WordPress.com is a private company owned by Automattic that hosts the largest multisite in the world. This is arguably the best place to start blogging if you have never touched WordPress before. https://wordpress.com/, you can choose to use Latin for Serbian so those lines should be in Latin then.
    
    What do you mean by “3rd party plugins” and “other plugins”?
    
    Problem WordPress has (not just with Serbian) is that every dialect or other different form of a language is marked as completely different language. That doesn’t meet real life situation and isn’t flexible at all. Because of that there aren’t many options for per language customization.
Emil Uzelac 4:26 am on June 30, 2012

Hey Milan,

I tried to get the pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party activated but there’s an error on line 49. I haven’t checked what’s there and just want to give you heads-up.

Any chance this can be included in official plugin directory as well?

Thanks,
Emil
Nenad Marjanovic 9:00 pm on July 13, 2012

People can check forum they need Serbian Latin. I made update when Milan make Cyrillic update. Check this forum topic : http://themeid.com/forum/post/10363/#p10363
- Nenad Marjanovic 9:03 pm on July 13, 2012
  
  Sorry for my english, pls fix errors and remove this reply. Thank you. “People can check forum if they need Serbian Latin, and i will made updates when Milan update Cyrillic. Check this forum topic : http://themeid.com/forum/post/10363/#p10363 for updates. Thank you !
Milan Dinić 6:12 pm on July 22, 2012

Sorry for late reply. Error with a pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party is probably because of encoding issues, don’t download it via browser and instead use SVNSVN Apache Subversion (often abbreviated SVN, after its command name svn) is a software versioning and revision control system. Software developers use Subversion to maintain current and historical versions of files such as source code, web pages, and documentation. Its goal is to be a mostly compatible successor to the widely used Concurrent Versions System (CVS). WordPress core and the wordpress.org released code are all centrally managed through SVN. https://subversion.apache.org/. or a package.

I’m not the author of plugin so I need to see how it can be included in the repoWordPress Localization Repository The WordPress Localization Repository at https://i18n.svn.wordpress.org/ is a Subversion repository where official WordPress translations are maintained. See Working with the Translation Repository for details..

There was a good discussion on a link Nenad posted. grapplerulrich is right that if you really want to use Latin translation but not a plugin, you should make a custom code, either via child themeChild theme A Child Theme is a customized theme based upon a Parent Theme. It’s considered best practice to create a child theme if you want to modify the CSS of your theme. https://developer.wordpress.org/themes/advanced-topics/child-themes/. or by filtering load_theme_textdomain, or by including a code from a plugin to your setup.
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danid88 9:53 am on January 30, 2018

My debug.log is full of Cyrillic letters. Great. Not that I couldn’t read them, but it makes it harder because half of it is in English and half of it in Cyrillic.

A survey from 2014 showed that 47% of the Serbian population favor the Latin alphabet whereas 36% favor the Cyrillic one

– says the wikipedia.

I’ve heard developers of other CMS’ using Croatian or Custom language exactly because of issues like this.

What is the appeal to use Serbian language if it makes life harder than to simply not use it (if you need just Latin script on your site – which is I believe the majority of cases)?
- Milan Dinić 2:33 pm on January 30, 2018
  
  @danid88
  
  My debug.log is full of Cyrillic letters. Great. Not that I couldn’t read them, but it makes it harder because half of it is in English and half of it in Cyrillic.
  
  That logs that are in English are produced by pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party, theme, coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. PHPPHP PHP (recursive acronym for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor) is a widely-used open source general-purpose scripting language that is especially suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML. http://php.net/manual/en/intro-whatis.php., or any custom code. This is how WordPress works, logs from core are translated (thus Cyrillic), no matter what translations to use they will be translated. Other logs might be translated, but they don’t have to, it’s up to developer.
  
  What is the appeal to use Serbian language if it makes life harder than to simply not use it (if you need just Latin script on your site – which is I believe the majority of cases)?
  
  Do you know that Serbian Latin translation is included in each Serbian translation, and has been that way for almost a decade? Serbian Cyrillic is just default translation, you can easily switch.
  - danid88 3:04 pm on January 30, 2018
    
    In hindsight I don’t know what caused that in the debug.log, because it stopped, and now it outputs everything in English.
    
    I realized that much, reading about it, but that is exactly what I dislike about it. I think it should be the other way around. And installing a pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party is just another thing to worry about, and another abstraction layer, and it works by translating things twice, if I understood it correctly.
    
    I suppose it must be this way because “Romanization can be done with no errors”, but the opposite is not always true.
    
    Anyway I hope I can get away with not using the plugin.
    
    Thanks for your time.
    - Milan Dinić 7:30 pm on January 30, 2018
      
      And installing a pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party is just another thing to worry about
      
      For a very long time, we tried to find better solution for this, but this is blocked by WordPress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/ developers, not us. Here is a reference of recent try.
      
      it works by translating things twice, if I understood it correctly
      
      By transliterating Cyrillic to Latin: which means doing str_replace.

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