Title: Bounces, AutoReplies, and You
Author: Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)
Published: December 17, 2018

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 [  ](https://profiles.wordpress.org/ipstenu/) [Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)](https://profiles.wordpress.org/ipstenu/)
9:25 pm _on_ December 17, 2018     
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# Bounces, AutoReplies, and You

Over 150 plugins were closed during WCUS due to auto replies, bounces, and confusing
pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that
can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features
to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming
language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.
org Plugin Directory [https://wordpress.org/plugins/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/)
or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party. ownership.

In our [plugin developer expectations](https://developer.wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-org/detailed-plugin-guidelines/#developer-expectations),
we say this:

> It is the responsibility of the plugin developer to ensure their contact information
> on WordPress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created
> and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress
> core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations
> and organization. [https://wordpress.org/](https://wordpress.org/) is up to date
> and accurate, in order that they receive all notifications from the plugins team.
> Auto-replies and emails that route to a support system are not permitted as they
> historically prevent humans from addressing emails in a timely fashion.

Your email _has to work_. If we can’t get a hold of you, we’re going to either remove
you from your plugin or, if you’re the owner, close it. This is especially true 
if we can’t figure out who’s meant to own a plugin, or the ‘official’ company account
is bouncing.

If your email sends an auto-reply, or a partial bounce (that is, you have a group
email and one address in the group bounces) we **ALWAYS** email you with as much
detail as needed to resolve the issue.

Since we sent out a mass email in October, pre 5.0, and another last week, we had
a 50 day window for many people to correct the issues.

Let’s hit up some of the reasons why we do this:

**Auto-Replies are a bad _developer_ practice**

Two reasons, besides the fact that they’re spammy, that a developer account should
never auto-reply:

1. Security
 2. Communication

Security is the biggest. An auto-reply generally comes from a SUPPORT account. A
support account should NEVER be receiving our emails because they’re likely to be
related to insecurity in your plugins. We don’t 0-day you, ever, that would be cruel.
We want you to fix things ASAP, though, for your users, and if support gets that
message, now you have more people, who may not understand not to tell customers 
about the problems. Also we have no way to be sure the developer got the email. 
You’re trusting support to escalate properly every time.

Communication is obviously related. We’ve got to be able to get a hold of you, and
putting layers between us and you isn’t going to help.

**Auto-replies cause developers to not get notifications**

We actually DO inform everyone about the status of auto-replies. Once we determine
what plugin causes the reply, we email _everyone_ with commit access (i.e. your 
developers) that there is a problem and to please resolve it. The fact that a high
number of you aren’t seeing those emails is indicative of the problem.

**Developers aren’t support**

For the majority of plugins, this is actually not true. That is, most people are
developers and their own support. But those aren’t the people who make auto-replies.
The people who have auto-replies tend to be _companies_. And for a company, there’s
a reason they want the auto-replies for people contacting support. That’s perfectly
sensible.

The disconnect here is that _we_ expect the people who have commit access to be 
developers. We

Thankfully we have a solution for you! You can add your support users as [Support Representatives](https://developer.wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-org/special-user-roles-capabilities/#support-rep)
for your plugin!

**WordPress isn’t your user**

All of that said, having an auto-reply on the account you use _here_ to manage your
plugin and support your users creates a poor experience. People can’t email you 
from WordPress.org and while you can chose to get emails for all new posts in your
plugin’s forum, having that sent to an auto-reply is rather odd. Why would you want
to auto-reply to an automated notification email?

**Shared accounts are dangerous**

This goes back to security. Don’t share accounts. NEVER share accounts. Give developers
individual access to commit code. Add support reps individually. Doing this gives
you an easy way to track who commits what code, who answered what question, and 
you can now hold them accountable for their individual actions! Got one support 
tech who goes off the rails? You can explain that it was one person and you’re handling
it. Or the forums team can help you blockBlock Block is the abstract term used to
describe units of markup that, composed together, form the content or layout of 
a webpage using the WordPress editor. The idea combines concepts of what in the 
past may have achieved with shortcodes, custom HTML, and embed discovery into a 
single consistent API and user experience. their account if needed.

**Bounces are harder to unravel than you think**

Sometimes a bounce is obvious. If a user no longer exists, we can close the plugin.
If a domain no longer exists, you’d think we could close it, but what if that happened
because a company renamed themselves and forgot to update the emails? And what about
when the bounce is from the domain, but doesn’t say _WHICH_ user account bounced?
It takes time.

We know a handful of people have been upset to find out we closed their plugins 
instead of trying to sort out who actually should own the plugin when the email 
bounced. We are sorry about that, but it was a case of prioritizing and expediency.
It’s much more efficient for us to close the plugin and let you contact us than 
to spend a couple hours untangling who represents a company and is legally responsible
for managing a plugin.

**Questions?**

As always, if your plugin was closed and you don’t know why, email us with a link
to the plugin and ask. We’d rather have them up and active and usable too!

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 1. ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/408517ca1720114b04648d1738d17a428e84e8b32c22cda8a0d439d9a7822647?
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 2.  [Brad Davis](https://profiles.wordpress.org/brad-davis/)  3:41 am _on_ December
    19, 2018
 3. Hi Ipstenu,
     The plugins that have been closed, could it be possible to add them
    to a adopt me tag but not currently able to be installed? Or is there a list anywhere
    for others to pick up?
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     *  [Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)](https://profiles.wordpress.org/ipstenu/)  5:04 pm 
       _on_ December 21, 2018
     * There isn’t a list (I only kept a list of the emails that bounced and not the
       related plugins). FWIW the majority are either not ones anyone would care to
       adopt (out of date for current WP) or owned by companies (which we generally
       don’t permit adoption of due to ownership concerns).
        - ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/de21c2c51106372a159cf21ca20d17c5f16987b95774a4e18d77864319b5dbf4?
          s=32&d=mm&r=g)
        -  [zuda](https://profiles.wordpress.org/zuda/)  9:40 am _on_ December 30, 
          2018
        - Mika,
           My company adopts any pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software
          containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website.
          They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites.
          WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate
          seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin 
          Directory [https://wordpress.org/plugins/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/)
          or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party. and we manage them. If people
          believe it’s worth using it, we believe it’s worth maintaining it. To your
          second point, maintaining also means making it compliant to the latest version
          of WP. Your 3rd point is interesting in regards to companies GPLGPL GPL is
          an acronym for GNU Public License. It is the standard license WordPress uses
          for Open Source licensing [https://wordpress.org/about/license/](https://wordpress.org/about/license/).
          The GPL is a ‘copyleft’ license [https://www.gnu.org/licenses/copyleft.en.html](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/copyleft.en.html).
          This means that derivative work can only be distributed under the same license
          terms. This is in distinction to permissive free software licenses, of which
          the BSD license and the MIT License are widely used examples. code. Is there
          a clause in the GPL we’ve missed? The GPL doesn’t appear to have any clause
          that would provide special provisions for companies who have GPL code over
          individuals who have GPL code, so I don’t fully understand that concern, 
          unless it simply comes down to not wanting to deal with their legal teams.
        - Thanks for the great work, you know I appreciate it!
           * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/27180c82524020e7339e2b30818b6d8ab004c54f730f12b1434b1e365be0e175?
             s=32&d=mm&r=g)
           *  [Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)](https://profiles.wordpress.org/ipstenu/)  5:
             36 pm _on_ December 31, 2018
           * It’s nothing to do with GPLGPL GPL is an acronym for GNU Public License.
             It is the standard license WordPress uses for Open Source licensing [https://wordpress.org/about/license/](https://wordpress.org/about/license/).
             The GPL is a ‘copyleft’ license [https://www.gnu.org/licenses/copyleft.en.html](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/copyleft.en.html).
             This means that derivative work can only be distributed under the same
             license terms. This is in distinction to permissive free software licenses,
             of which the BSD license and the MIT License are widely used examples..
             There are legal issues around copyright, trademark, and more. But keep
             this in mind: GPL doesn’t mean we get to ignore contract law 🙂
           * You can fork the pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing
             a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can
             extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress
             plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly
             with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory
             [https://wordpress.org/plugins/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/) or can
             be cost-based plugin from a third-party., but we probably aren’t going
             to give it back to you since legal ownership of the plugin directory (
             not the plugin code, the directory and accounts hosted HERE) aren’t yours.

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