Title: Marketing team meeting September 25, 2019
Author: Abha Thakor
Published: October 2, 2019
Last modified: May 3, 2024

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 [  ](https://profiles.wordpress.org/webcommsat/) [Abha Thakor](https://profiles.wordpress.org/webcommsat/)
9:14 am _on_ October 2, 2019      

# Marketing team meeting September 25, 2019

2019/09/25

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 1. **Attendance: **
 2.  a. [@mikerbg](https://profiles.wordpress.org/mikerbg/) [@michelleames](https://profiles.wordpress.org/michelleames/)@
        DijanaMuzhdeka [@mapk](https://profiles.wordpress.org/mapk/) [@yvettesonneveld](https://profiles.wordpress.org/yvettesonneveld/)
        [@karmatosed](https://profiles.wordpress.org/karmatosed/) [@webcommsat](https://profiles.wordpress.org/webcommsat/)
        [@jenblogs4u](https://profiles.wordpress.org/jenblogs4u/) [@nullbyte](https://profiles.wordpress.org/nullbyte/)
        [@maedahbatool](https://profiles.wordpress.org/maedahbatool/) [@Maziar](https://profiles.wordpress.org/maziar/)
        [@scottjones](https://profiles.wordpress.org/scottjones/)

## **2) Notes**

 * **Notetakers:** [@webcommsat](https://profiles.wordpress.org/webcommsat/) and
   [@yvettesonneveld](https://profiles.wordpress.org/yvettesonneveld/)
 * **Ideas: **
    - in the future, attendees will be asked to add their WordPress.orgWordPress.
      org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users.
      This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins
      and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and
      organization. [https://wordpress.org/](https://wordpress.org/) ID to their
      attendance confirmation if it is different to their Slack ID. This will assist
      notetakers.suggestion to be trialled: members attending the meeting, if they
      wish, to add their local time and time zone in relation to UTC, the common
      time zone used in the project. This is to support awareness of time zones 
      of participants and to aid team working.
 * **Update on Notes of meetings: **
    - [@yvettesonneveld](https://profiles.wordpress.org/yvettesonneveld/) and [@webcommsat](https://profiles.wordpress.org/webcommsat/)
      are working on options to make the meeting notes more effective and useful
      for both new members, those who may be contributing async, members unable 
      to attend and seeking to catch up on actions, other teams and external audiences.
    - in the interim, a more streamlined minutes will be produced with a link to
      the full notes on Slack. The Google documents notes from the last meeting 
      were available on the drive for members to read and this link was shared. 
      Last week’s meeting was unusual as it had virtually two sub-meetings taking
      place within it in addition to normal updates. The notes are therefore quite
      extensive. Thank you to [@webcommsat](https://profiles.wordpress.org/webcommsat/)

## **3) New members welcomed**

– [@mapk](https://profiles.wordpress.org/mapk/) ; @DijanaMuzhdeka joined from her
first contributor dayContributor Day Contributor Days are standalone days, frequently
held before or after WordCamps but they can also happen at any time. They are events
where people get together to work on various areas of [https://make.wordpress.org/](https://make.wordpress.org/)
There are many teams that people can participate in, each with a different focus.
[https://make.wordpress.org/support/handbook/getting-started/getting-started-at-a-contributor-day/](https://make.wordpress.org/support/handbook/getting-started/getting-started-at-a-contributor-day/)
at WordCampWordCamp WordCamps are casual, locally-organized conferences covering
everything related to WordPress. They're one of the places where the WordPress community
comes together to teach one another what they’ve learned throughout the year and
share the joy. [Learn more](https://central.wordcamp.org/about/). Nijmegen

## **4) Celebration thread**

 * **Slack training for supporting new contributors**
    - **Event**: An example of a MeetupMeetup All local/regional gatherings that
      are officially a part of the WordPress world but are not WordCamps are organized
      through [https://www.meetup.com/](https://www.meetup.com/). A meetup is typically
      a chance for local WordPress users to get together and share new ideas and
      seek help from one another. Searching for ‘WordPress’ on meetup.com will help
      you find options in your area. based Slack training has been piloted at WP-
      Pompey in the UK. This will produce feedback to work in Make WordPress and
      community on ways to improve the onboarding / tool familiarization for new
      contributors. Thanks to Drew Westacott and xxx for other teams working on 
      ideas for a template.**Outcomes**: Many of the useful tips shared in this 
      training and its structure could be adapted for contributor events. **Potential
      follow-ups**: A potential marketing idea is to encourage local Meetups to 
      do Slack training before a Contributor Day in the area to enable new attendees
      to benefit more and move to tasks earlier. **Action**: If anyone else runs
      sessions on using Slack which could be shared, add it to the onboarding cards
      on the Marketing TrelloTrello Project management system using the concepts
      of boards and cards to organize tasks in a sane way. This is what the make.
      wordpress.com/marketing team uses for example: [https://trello.com/b/8UGHVBu8/wp-marketing.](https://trello.com/b/8UGHVBu8/wp-marketing).
      We learnt a lot about how some of this can help at contributor events too 
      and make slack more fun to get to grips with. (Update from [@webcommsat](https://profiles.wordpress.org/webcommsat/))
 * **Event: Marketing Table, Contributor Day WordCamp Nijmegen 2019 last weekend.**
    - **Background**: [https://trello.com/c/NB60OMpt](https://trello.com/c/NB60OMpt)**
      Outcomes**: Significant contribution achieved at this event across a variety
      of marketing tasks. Preparation undertaken by table leads [@siobhanseija](https://profiles.wordpress.org/siobhanseija/)
      and [@yvettesonneveld](https://profiles.wordpress.org/yvettesonneveld/), and
      resources on a number of tasks produced by [@webcommsat](https://profiles.wordpress.org/webcommsat/).
      The tasks on the day included the progress on the Digital Citizenship Week
      series, case studies for WordPress Showcase, additions to the WordPress.tv
      video marketing project, subtitling of WordPress.tv identified videos, assistance
      with photography for WordCamp Dublin ‘find our wapuu’ marketing campaign, 
      and much more. **Contributors in person or virtually included**: [@webcommsat](https://profiles.wordpress.org/webcommsat/)
      [@alexdenning](https://profiles.wordpress.org/alexdenning/) [@dushanthi](https://profiles.wordpress.org/dushanthi/)
      [@Andreea](https://profiles.wordpress.org/andreea/) Toporas Petra Armstrong
      [@Dijana](https://profiles.wordpress.org/dijana/) Muzhdeka [@natashadrewnicki](https://profiles.wordpress.org/natashadrewnicki/)
      [@karmijntekst](https://profiles.wordpress.org/karmijntekst/) and [@niclasbeebyte](https://profiles.wordpress.org/niclasbeebyte/)
 * **Event: Virginia Beach WordPress Meetup **
    - **Outcomes**: Through marketing this is gaining momentum with attendance averaging
      15 people each meeting. A good result for a new group (Update from [@mikerbg](https://profiles.wordpress.org/mikerbg/))

## **5) WordPress 5.3 Release – Marketing planning**

### **5.3 Release Communication Update**

This update comes from the 2019/09/25 Marketing team meeting. An agenda will be 
posted on 30 September for the 2019/10/03 meeting. 

### **5.3 Release Collaboration Meeting Objective**

**Objective**: to use this meeting to review this document and review the proposed
edits. We have had a lot of great feedback from other teams, many of whom have helpfully
added content directly about their components.

On Monday, the expected Beta2 release, we will start the process over. This will
be an iterative process as we approach release, but things get more and more stable
as we approach the main release. (Update [@miker](https://profiles.wordpress.org/miker/))

#### **Overall focus of the release**

In the 2019/09/18 Marketing meeting, a number of questions were raised regarding
the “main focus” of the release. This was clarified on 2019/9/20 by [@francina](https://profiles.wordpress.org/francina/):

GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress.
The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing
rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes,
custom HTML etc. [https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/](https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/)
definitely deserves a very important place in the list of features but IMHO is not
the main focus of the release. Nor is the theme, again according to me 🙂 As we 
said in the launch of the release cycle the focus is “polishing current interactions
and make the UIs more user friendly”. If I had to sum it up, I would say that 5.3
is a release focused on enhancements, from Gutenberg, to a new default theme to 
media library. What do you think?

#### **About Page Collaboration and Feedback**

A major focus of the Marketing meeting was revising the current draft collaboration
document. A number of feedback items have been incorporated over the last week. 
We reviewed the feedback and made a number of changes, while adding comments for
further discussion. This is a work in progress and iterative document:  [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PW52syWz1bksFInmgczZA5OKhEGjM2dXGwNA6A5tl-M/edit#](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PW52syWz1bksFInmgczZA5OKhEGjM2dXGwNA6A5tl-M/edit#)

**Suggestions from the team:**

 * [@yvettesonneveld](https://profiles.wordpress.org/yvettesonneveld/) suggested
   a readability check in the Hemingway app to make sure the reading level is at
   or below grade 8. [@miker](https://profiles.wordpress.org/miker/) ran the current
   copy through the app and found it is currently at a 9th grade level;
 * [@audrasjb](https://profiles.wordpress.org/audrasjb/) requested a specific section
   be added on accessibilityAccessibility Accessibility (commonly shortened to a11y)
   refers to the design of products, devices, services, or environments for people
   with disabilities. The concept of accessible design ensures both “direct access”(
   i.e. unassisted) and “indirect access” meaning compatibility with a person’s 
   assistive technology (for example, computer screen readers). (https://en.wikipedia.
   org/wiki/Accessibility), which was endorsed by [@francina](https://profiles.wordpress.org/francina/);
 * [@karmatosed](https://profiles.wordpress.org/karmatosed/) raised concerns that
   the current document did not accurately reflect the full range of Gutenberg enhancements
   for the release. [@youknowriad](https://profiles.wordpress.org/youknowriad/) 
   agreed and added in a list of main features, as well as starter
 * [@mikerbg](https://profiles.wordpress.org/mikerbg/) will compile an update on
   the current status of the About page to share with the major releaseMajor Release
   A set of releases or versions having the same major version number may be collectively
   referred to as “X.Y” -- for example version 5.2.x to refer to versions 5.2, 5.2.1,
   and all other versions in the 5.2. (five dot two dot) branch of that software.
   Major Releases often are the introduction of new major features and functionality.
   team.

#### **Images / Feature Illustration**

**Points on GIFs:**

 * [@mapk](https://profiles.wordpress.org/mapk/) raised a number of points related
   to the animated GIFs currently in the About Page collaboration doc, and added
   specific comments directly in the collaboration doc. The GIFs were made at an
   earlier stage and no longer completely reflect the current stage. Feature behavior
   or UIUI UI is an acronym for User Interface - the layout of the page the user
   interacts with. Think ‘how are they doing that’ and less about what they are 
   doing. is slightly outdated in these GIFs;
 * [@mapk](https://profiles.wordpress.org/mapk/) did not think there was a formal
   process for creating these images. They had been created by a few of the Devs
   in local environments. He offered to provide the GIFs if we continue in this 
   direction. He advised that to his knowledge there is not currently a guide or
   process for making these images. He has used LICEcap or Monosnap to create them
   in the past;
 * [@webcommsat](https://profiles.wordpress.org/webcommsat/) suggested the conversation
   on a guide for creating or requesting GIFs should be a conversation initially
   with the Design and the Accessibility teams. There has been information from 
   the Accessibility team previously to help particular WordCamps before, there 
   may be more resources. Checking with these times would be better and could potentially
   save time;
 * [@karmatosed](https://profiles.wordpress.org/karmatosed/) raised the concern 
   that the impact of GIFs should be looked at collectively to consider their combined
   impact. She also stressed the importance of collaboration with the Design team
   on the overall direction of the design.

The conversation will be continued in the existing tracTrac Trac is the place where
contributors create issues for bugs or feature requests much like GitHub.[https://core.trac.wordpress.org/](https://core.trac.wordpress.org/).
thread: [https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/47708](https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/47708)

The meeting ended without consensus on the next steps. [@mikerbg](https://profiles.wordpress.org/mikerbg/)
expressed that his objective was to follow the lead of the Design team, and was 
approaching the task with the idea that flexibility was required as there will be
multiple revisionsRevisions The WordPress revisions system stores a record of each
saved draft or published update. The revision system allows you to see what changes
were made in each revision by dragging a slider (or using the Next/Previous buttons).
The display indicates what has changed in each revision. needed as we approach release.

### 5.3 and **Social Media**

As we approach the 5.3 release, we have had a number of conversations about using
various social media channels to spread the message. This raised a number of questions
about the current channels, and how we can interact with those:

 * a draft document was started by Maziar bringing together some of the general 
   ideas for more proactively posting on social media. This was a starter which 
   members were invited to add to and to make it more specific to the Marketing 
   Team. The more time sensitive task was the survey to encourage members’ contribution
   and ideas (more in the minutes from last week’s meeting). Maziar working on a
   draft survey and to report back next meeting. 
 * For the next few weeks, we focus on helping to generate some post ideas for the
   5.3 release and the Digital Citizenship week content specifically.
 * [@webcommsat](https://profiles.wordpress.org/webcommsat/): We need a separate
   document on social media messages for the release. Perhaps this could be done
   on a Google sheet so that we can re-tailor messages for the different social 
   media accounts. This would also make it easier for members to take messages and
   use them on their own social channels. @[@mikerbg](https://profiles.wordpress.org/mikerbg/)
   will create this doc within the Marketing google drive and share the link in 
   the marketing channel on Slack.

This conversation is ongoing.

## 6) **Marketing Communication and Next Steps**

**Background: **

 * In a number of weekly marketing and more detailed meetings, work has started 
   on ways to improve shared understanding and communication flow within the marketing
   team, how it communicates to other teams and wider external audiences, and responding
   to feedback from members, from contributor events and other teams.
 * This includes how we record meeting notes, communicate project status, and provide
   a roadmap of planned next steps.
 * This conversation is in conjunction with the wider strategic re-organization 
   of marketing processes already under discussion.

Actions: [@webcommsat](https://profiles.wordpress.org/webcommsat/) was asked to 
develop some options. She is also gathering further examples and will have conversations
with [@yvettesonneveld](https://profiles.wordpress.org/yvettesonneveld/) and [@mikerbg](https://profiles.wordpress.org/mikerbg/),@
maedah, gathering input from others too, and incorporating feedback from members
and at WordCamp contributor events. The main immediate action item is to treat the
marketing meeting notes more as a high level overview of activity, instead of a 
granular “transcript” of the meeting, retaining a link to the full discussion in
Slack. A summary of this will be posted at the next meeting on Wed 2 October 2019.

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 1. ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/241584c8900ae5ccd62ff4c9db7d58e58bc9e0dc0162d4bdcac2a916d586c7ed?
    s=32&d=initials&r=g&initials=FM)
 2.  [Francesca Marano](https://profiles.wordpress.org/francina/)  2:45 pm _on_ October
    2, 2019
 3. Hi! Thanks for the thorough recap.
     Just a clarification
 4. > GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress.
    > The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making
    > writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than
    > shortcodes, custom HTML etc.
    >  [https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/](https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/)
    > definitely deserves a very important place in the list of features but IMHO is
    > not the main focus of the release. Nor is the theme, again according to me 🙂
    > As we said in the launch of the release cycle the focus is “polishing current
    > interactions and make the UIs more user friendly”. If I had to sum it up, I would
    > say that 5.3 is a release focused on enhancements, from Gutenberg, to a new default
    > theme to media library. What do you think?
 5. This was a question and not the final decision, so it was confirmed by the release
    squad that Gutenberg is indeed the focus of 5.3!
     Cheers
 6.  * ![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/290f2b7c28bb1f2b5a6ceccbfba43a7ee24abe3e2e0c35394f4be3d8f8c49c23?
       s=32&d=initials&r=g&initials=AT)
     *  [webcommsat AbhaNonStopNewsUK](https://profiles.wordpress.org/webcommsat/)  
       4:56 pm _on_ October 2, 2019
     * We can update this on the notes too, thanks Francesca.

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