We’re going to be holding weekly multilingual discussions…

We’re going to be holding weekly multilingual discussions in the the core channel in WordPress.org Slack every Monday at 16:00 UTC, commencing the Monday 20th July.

We’ll be continuing the discussions we began at the contributor dayContributor Day Contributor Days are standalone days, frequently held before or after WordCamps but they can also happen at any time. They are events where people get together to work on various areas of https://make.wordpress.org/ There are many teams that people can participate in, each with a different focus. https://2017.us.wordcamp.org/contributor-day/ https://make.wordpress.org/support/handbook/getting-started/getting-started-at-a-contributor-day/. for WordCampWordCamp WordCamps are casual, locally-organized conferences covering everything related to WordPress. They're one of the places where the WordPress community comes together to teach one another what they’ve learned throughout the year and share the joy. Learn more. Europe (notes here), thinking through the feedback received since (thanks everyone!) and looking for considered and pragmatic ways forward.

Anyone is welcome to join.

#l10n, #multilingual, #translation

WordCamp Europe 2015 – Multilingual Discussion

Discussers:

Drupal Multilingual Overview

Christian López Espínola is a Drupal contributor to the multi-language features in that project, and gave us this overview of the multi-language features in Drupal 7 and upcoming in Drupal 8:

In Drupal we have different modules bundled with coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress.. The language module was added in Drupal 7, which gives support for assigning languages to content. Drupal already had Interface translationtranslation The process (or result) of changing text, words, and display formatting to support another language. Also see localization, internationalization. support as WordPress does.

Drupal 8 adds content translation, with a UIUI User interface.

At first the problem was that there are two different strategies for doing this. Drupal 7 gave support for translating a node by creating copies; having multiple posts for one piece of content. This made it hard to select the content required for display in case other modules were not aware of or not interested in multilingual support. Moved to translations to the field level, so stored in the equivalent of post metaMeta Meta is a term that refers to the inside workings of a group. For us, this is the team that works on internal WordPress sites like WordCamp Central and Make WordPress.. One content node now contains all the translations, so fields attached to the node have translations of the title, content, etc, into all languages if those fields are translatable, this way content is not duplicated (i.e. fields are not duplicated between nodes if they are not translatable).

Q: How does Drupal connect languages into groups of translations of one piece of content.
A: If one post is a translation of another, there is a field which links it. D7 two nodes. D8 has one node, and translated content is stored in fields (with language attribute).

Q: What issues did the adding of content language cause?
A: At some level we had two different posts, one for each language. So if your pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party doesn’t consider internationalisation, then this causes issues because you are considering translations different content, and mix languages in the UI. For example if we want to rate a post from a rating plugin, we may want the rating to be “shared” between all translations of that content.

Some Approaches to Attributing Language to Content

We looked at just a few multi-lingual plugins, to see how they addressed the issue of storing language content.

<caveat>This is by no means an exhaustive list, and only reflects the solutions that the people in the discussion have had experience with 🙂 Please feel free to add other examples or corrections in the comments.</caveat>

  • WPML table structures – to attempt to synthesise this link: each translated content object is stored as a post, and a WPML database table links the content into groups and specifies the language of each content object.
  • Babble puts each the translation for each content object into a custom post typeCustom Post Type WordPress can hold and display many different types of content. A single item of such a content is generally called a post, although post is also a specific post type. Custom Post Types gives your site the ability to have templated posts, to simplify the concept. or custom taxonomyTaxonomy A taxonomy is a way to group things together. In WordPress, some common taxonomies are category, link, tag, or post format. https://codex.wordpress.org/Taxonomies#Default_Taxonomies., e.g. `post`, `post_fr_fr`, `post_pt_pt`, and uses a taxonomy to group translated content objects together, so you can say “this post is a translation of this other post”. A disadvantage of this approach is that translated content does not have an expected post type, e.g. post, but instead a Babble translation post type, e.g. `post_pt_pt`.
  • Multilingual Press stores content from each language in a separate site in a WordPress multisitemultisite Used to describe a WordPress installation with a network of multiple blogs, grouped by sites. This installation type has shared users tables, and creates separate database tables for each blog (wp_posts becomes wp_0_posts). See also network, blog, site. There is a database table which links translated content across sites.
  • Polylang does not create any additional database tables at all. It creates 4 taxonomies: `language`(to hold all the languages you configured), `term_language` (the terms in each language ex. EN: Uncategorized, DE: Allgemein), `term_translations`(connects the translated terms in each languages) `post_translations` (connects translated posts). The plugins seems to be fairly lightweight compared to others and works well with many additional plugins too.

Proposals

There are lots of varied issues which multi-language, translation, and/or localisation plugins and projects seek to solve. WordPress core should not provide a translation or localisation UI and/or workflow, we should continue to rely on the plugin space to address different user scenarios.

We do believe that there are some things which core could provide which would facilitate translation in the ecosystem for this type of plugin.

Proposal one: core could provide a minimal way to mark content (e.g. posts, terms) as a particular language.

  • In the simplest case, a single language site, all posts would be implicitly assumed to be in the selected front end language for that site.
  • When a translation/localisation plugin is added, the plugin has the duty to set the language for each piece of content (post, term, etc).
  • If this shipped, it would be, by design, “invisible functionality”, and an example plugin would be useful.
  • How would this affect the WordPress exporter and the importer? The translation/localisation plugin would have the duty to add any UI to the importer/exporter, and core would need to provide the necessary hooksHooks In WordPress theme and development, hooks are functions that can be applied to an action or a Filter in WordPress. Actions are functions performed when a certain event occurs in WordPress. Filters allow you to modify certain functions. Arguments used to hook both filters and actions look the same., etc.
  • Should we consider special locales like “no language” and “unknown language” (Drupal does this)? Perhaps core specifies these “locales” as a standard, but doesn’t use it.
  • This might be implemented as an additional column on the `wp_posts`and `wp_terms`tables, with associated post and taxonomy APIAPI An API or Application Programming Interface is a software intermediary that allows programs to interact with each other and share data in limited, clearly defined ways. additions and enhancements, which is available for plugins to use.

Proposal two: core could provide a method or standard for translating strings stored in content objects like widgets

In some contexts it is hard for a translation or localisation plugin to know what requires translation, e.g. in widgets when the data is stored in a blob in the database. It would be useful if core provided a pattern for others to follow to mark particular strings of text as translatable.

Taking the example of a plugin providing a text widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user., with user editable title and body fields, this plugin could follow the same standard to make these strings available to translation plugins. A possible implementation might be a filterFilter Filters are one of the two types of Hooks https://codex.wordpress.org/Plugin_API/Hooks. They provide a way for functions to modify data of other functions. They are the counterpart to Actions. Unlike Actions, filters are meant to work in an isolated manner, and should never have side effects such as affecting global variables and output. or set of filters to pass the string for translation, and perhaps also the nature of the string to give a hint for the translation UI required, e.g. “rich text” (perhaps the translation plugin would provide a TinyMCE instance), “plain text” (perhaps a simple text area), etc.

Other things discussed:

  • Setting the adminadmin (and super admin) area language differently to the front end language, including showing the admin bar in the admin area language – being addressed in #26511
  • Supporting variants on localeLocale A locale is a combination of language and regional dialect. Usually locales correspond to countries, as is the case with Portuguese (Portugal) and Portuguese (Brazil). Other examples of locales include Canadian English and U.S. English., e.g. Portuguese informal, as these cannot be defined within the ISO standard currently – being addressed in #28303

#l10n, #multilingual, #translation