DevChat meeting Summary – May 5, 2021

Agenda for the two meetings. Thanks to @peterwilsoncc and @jeffpaul for leading the 05:00 and 20:00 UTC devchats respectively.

Link to 05:00 UTC devchat meeting archive in Slack // Link to 20:00 UTC devchat meeting archive in Slack

Announcements and news

These posts need your feedback:

  • @ryokuhi published a proposal on Make/Accessibility about a new Trac workflow keyword that the AccessibilityAccessibility Accessibility (commonly shortened to a11y) refers to the design of products, devices, services, or environments for people with disabilities. The concept of accessible design ensures both “direct access” (i.e. unassisted) and “indirect access” meaning compatibility with a person’s assistive technology (for example, computer screen readers). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessibility) team would like to consider.  If you feel particularly opinionated or passionate about this, please comment on the post.
  • @jeffpaul and @desrosj published a request to Component Maintainers, Feature plugin authors, and the Gutenberg team to share plans / help needed for 5.8 (primary focus will be FSE).  Please comment on the post to help ensure we’re tracking the right work for the release.
    • @youknowriad noted that required Gutenberg changes in Core are made as filters/extensions points and brought to coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. as part of the GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ merge that happens regularly
    • @mkaz shared the WordPress 5.8 Must Haves project board on GitHub as outline of Gutenberg work for 5.8

5.8 Review

  • Schedule confirmed including bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. scrub schedule
  • @youknowriad shared that trunk is already on Gutenberg 10.4, @gziolo is working on updating it to 10.5 and the big changes (Global styles infrastructure in themes.json and FSE blocks) are coming in 10.6
  • Feature freeze on Tuesday May 25th (19 days from now) defined as “During the following two weeks, there will be no commits for new enhancements or feature requests. Core contributorsCore Contributors Core contributors are those who have worked on a release of WordPress, by creating the functions or finding and patching bugs. These contributions are done through Trac. https://core.trac.wordpress.org. will focus on defect work (aka outstanding bugs)
  • BetaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. 1 on Tuesday June 8 (33 days)
  • RCrelease candidate One of the final stages in the version release cycle, this version signals the potential to be a final release to the public. Also see alpha (beta). 1 on Tuesday June 29 (54 days)
  • Release on Tuesday July 20 (75 days)
  • Current list of tickets that are on the 5.8 milestone, list of good-first-bugs tickets

Component maintainers and committers update

  • @sergeybiryukov shared Plugins update that Parameter names in pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party APIAPI An API or Application Programming Interface is a software intermediary that allows programs to interact with each other and share data in limited, clearly defined ways. functions now use consistent terminology when referring to actions, filters, and callback functions via #50531
  • @sergeybiryukov shared Themes update that #49487 removes the “Featured” tab on Add Themes screen to match an earlier change in the Theme Directory
  • @webcommsat shared About/Help update that ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. triagetriage The act of evaluating and sorting bug reports, in order to decide priority, severity, and other factors. continues with @marybaum
  • @audrasjb shared Menus update that #21603 is being reviewed
  • @audrasjb shared Upgrade/Install update that the last meeting recap includes a project for the next few releases

Open Floor

Props to @audrasjb, @webcommsat and @marybaum for reviewing this post.

#5-8, #accessibility, #dev-chat, #docs, #fse, #full-site-editing, #github, #learnwp, #summary, #updater

DevChat meeting Summary – April 28, 2021

Agenda for the two meetings. Thanks to @peterwilsoncc and @jeffpaul for leading the 05:00 and 20:00 UTC devchats respectively.

Link to 05:00 UTC devchat meeting on the core channel on Slack

Link to 20:00 UTC devchat meeting on the core channel on Slack

Announcements and news

Feedback on posts requested

  • @iandunn needs your input on the topic of assisting pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party developers to avoid specific bugs that result in WordPress end users having a bad experience. He has suggested potential solutions including static code analysisStatic code analysis "...the analysis of computer software that is performed without actually executing programs, in contrast with dynamic analysis, which is analysis performed on programs while they are executing." - Wikipedia, and has provided a list of questions to help guide the discussion. Do read it and provide feedback from your perspective.
  • @francina: Would Stats Dashboards Help Your Team? Read this post for more details. Would folks in coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. feel that any sorts of stats on a dashboard would support in their work in core?
  • New team CC Search to join WordPress. CC Search, a CC0 (Creative Commons Zero) image search engine, is joining the WordPress project with more than 500 million openly licensed and public domain images discoverable from more than 50 sources, audio and video soon to come. Read this post for more information @chanthaboune: more news and context coming in the next few weeks.
  • Wonderful design reference for those looking for ways to quickly prototype WordPress UIUI User interface in Figma. Read this blog post
  • WP Briefing podcast. @jeffpaul: these are super quick to digest, provide a good on-ramp to what’s latest in WordPress. Check out all the episodes at this link and find links to subscribe in your favorite podcast app.

WordPress 5.8 Release

@francina gave an update – Thanks to everyone who volunteered and right now I can confirm these roles:

Release leadRelease Lead The community member ultimately responsible for the Release.: Matt Mullenweg (@matt)
Release Coordinators: Jeff Paul (@jeffpaul) and Jonathan Desrosiers (@desrosj)
Triagetriage The act of evaluating and sorting bug reports, in order to decide priority, severity, and other factors. Lead: Luke Carbis (@lukecarbis)
Core Tech Lead: Helen Hou-Sandí (@helen)
Editor Tech Lead: Riad Benguella (@youknowriad)
Marketing and Communication Lead: Josepha Haden-Chomphosy (@chanthaboune)
Documentation Lead: Milana Cap (@milana_cap)
Support Lead: Mary Job (@mariaojob)
Testing Lead: Piotrek Boniu (@boniu91)

  • @francina: “If I have messaged you and asked to join the release as part of the supporting crew, thanks for being part of the collaborative work that makes WordPress so great. Everyone! Join us in the channel #5-8-release-leads
  • If you have any questions about releases which you are following along, and if you want to ask questions: #core and #core-editor are the right channels
  • 5.8 release team

Full Site Editing (FSE) related items

  • Open call to send in your questions on Full Site Editing (FSE) Round 2 – reminder from @annezazu that you can submit questions, no matter who you are. The call closes 12 May 2021. This is part of the collaboration in #fse-outreach-experiment
  • [More posts on FSE in the posts requesting feedback section above]
  • Marketing has social media text available which can be reused to promote the different FSE calls 
  • @helen making a blockBlock Block is the abstract term used to describe units of markup that, composed together, form the content or layout of a webpage using the WordPress editor. The idea combines concepts of what in the past may have achieved with shortcodes, custom HTML, and embed discovery into a single consistent API and user experience. based theme with the full site editor

Component maintainers and committers update

  • @sergey: Work has continued on further fixing some long-standing coding standards issues in core, see ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. #52627 for more details.Build/Test Tools, Date/Time, I18Ni18n Internationalization, or the act of writing and preparing code to be fully translatable into other languages. Also see localization. Often written with a lowercase i so it is not confused with a lowercase L or the numeral 1. Often an acquired skill., Permalinks: No major news this week.
  • @clorith: Site Health catching up a bit on older and unanswered tickets
  • @audrasjb: Menus, Widgets, Upgrade/Install: nothing new. I scrubbed some tickets in the Menus component but no major news to share.
  • Following on from discussion last week @marybaum nominates @abhanonstopnewsuk as co-maintainer for the Help/ About page component 
  • In the last week, they have been going through the tickets since and will give an update in future devchats.

jQuery

  • @Hareesh: some attention requested on #52163. With this out of the way, we would have less jQuery migrate warnings, and it would be easier to fix any remaining warnings.
  • @clorith: jQuery UI hasn’t been updated yet, we are still waiting on their release, which I believe is scheduled for the end of May/start of June 
  • @davidb: jQuery release is right before BetaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. 1 then, if the dates hold
  • @clorith: Yeah, which is a bit tighter than I’d like, but it is what it is… we’ll have a look once it’s ready to see what’s going on and what the best approach is. Building from source while they’re still modifying it isn’t really an option in my opinion.

Open Floor

  • @notlaura: feedback requested on ticket #53070. Establish a Core CSSCSS Cascading Style Sheets. deprecation path, and ask if anyone is interested in working on it! This is something we’ve been discussing in #core-css

Community

  • @chanthaboune: As you may be aware, many of our fellow contributors are experiencing disruptions in their lives right now above and beyond the (seemingly) routine disruptions of this pandemic life. From big earthquakes to big spikes in COVID cases to unrest right outside their doors, some of your WordPress pals are hurting more than usual.
  • For my part, I can say take whatever time you need to take care of yourselves. You are important and WordPress is not more important than your health and well-being.
  • For all of us, if you haven’t reached out to your friends to see how they are, please do.

Thanks to @meher and @webcommsat for the devchat notes and @marybaum for her help with them.

#5-8, #dev-chat, #fse, #fse-outreach-experiment, #jquery

Devchat meeting summary – February 3, 2021

Agenda for the two meetings. Thanks to @thewebprincess and @hellofromtonya for leading the 05:00 and 20:00 UTC devchats respectively.

Link to 05:00 UTC devchat meeting on the core channel on Slack

Link to 20:00 UTC devchat meeting on the core channel on Slack

Announcements and news

WordPress 5.7 Beta 1 is out and available for testing.

WordPress 5.6.1 landed after devchat.

Month in WordPress for January 2021 (published 3 February 2021)

Reminder from Marketing, @webcommsat: we start our marketing planning well in advance, so if you are working on something for later in the year or that could be in the Questions and Answers on 5.7 or 5.6.1, please let @webcommsat, @yvettesonneveld, and @meher know. 

Week in Core – edition 1 February 2021

What’s next in Gutenberg?

Full Site Editing (FSE)

Component maintainers and committers update

Post from @chanthaboune on encouraging and recognizing committers and maintainers following on from discussions – Committers, Maintainers and Emeriti. This will also help show which areas need support in coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress..

  • Discussion during the meeting:
    • making it easier for people to see how they can become committers
    • using official emeritus status outside core for particular roles
  • Specific comments:
    • @hellofromtonya: Any concerns with deactivating their commit status with a path to reactivate when/if they become active again? No one in the meeting raised any concerns on this.
    • @sergey: A place to mentor potential new committercommitter A developer with commit access. WordPress has five lead developers and four permanent core developers with commit access. Additionally, the project usually has a few guest or component committers - a developer receiving commit access, generally for a single release cycle (sometimes renewed) and/or for a specific component..
    • @webcommsat: This would help so much with the recruitment and longer term contribution of committers too.
    • @nalininonstopnewsuk: Suggested more promotion on what skills and computer facilities potential committers would need. Supports the emeritus idea.
  • @annezazu and @hellofromtonya are interested in discussing a mentorship program.

Updates from component maintainers

@sergey

Build/Test Tools: The Sass implementation that Grunt uses has switched from node-sass to Dart Sass. That’s because LibSass and node-sass have been deprecated. Ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. #51763 for more details.

  • General: The get_home_url() function now consistently returns an httpsHTTPS HTTPS is an acronym for Hyper Text Transfer Protocol Secure. HTTPS is the secure version of HTTP, the protocol over which data is sent between your browser and the website that you are connected to. The 'S' at the end of HTTPS stands for 'Secure'. It means all communications between your browser and the website are encrypted. This is especially helpful for protecting sensitive data like banking information. URLURL A specific web address of a website or web page on the Internet, such as a website’s URL www.wordpress.org if the current request is already https, both for the adminadmin (and super admin) and front end. This fixes a previous inconsistency between the admin and front end URLs. See ticket #52421 for more details.
  • Date/Time, I18Ni18n Internationalization, or the act of writing and preparing code to be fully translatable into other languages. Also see localization. Often written with a lowercase i so it is not confused with a lowercase L or the numeral 1. Often an acquired skill., Permalinks: No major news this week 

@audrasjb

Upgrade/Install, Menus & Widgets: no major new this week, except that all our enhancements and features were finally committed before 5.7 betaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. 1.

@hellofromtonya:

  • 5.7 Beta 1 is out in the wild and ready for you to test and give feedback
  • It includes 143 tickets with 68 new features and enhancements 
  • Now the focus shifts to defects as well as supporting your feedback on the beta releases
  • There are currently 118 tickets open in 5.7 [ listing ]. Please help get as many as we can into the release during the beta cycle.

Update on WordPress 5.6.1 from @audrasjb:

Update and discussion on PluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party/Theme Rollback

  • GitHub details on the plugin/ theme rollback update
  • @hellofromtonya: We had planned to include plugin/theme rollback in WordPress 5.7, but it will become a feature pluginFeature Plugin A plugin that was created with the intention of eventually being proposed for inclusion in WordPress Core. See Features as Plugins. first. @afragen is doing the building, and it’s almost ready to submit to WordPress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/.
  • @ipstenu will flag it as an official beta for review
  • @davidbaumwald: is that plugin slated to roll over to the WordPress GitHubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/ account, or is it a gap-filler that doesn’t require that? @afragen: not sure it needs lots more actual work. But whatever the usual process is will be fine.
  • @hellofromtonya: currently, it’s set for feedback to validate if there are performance issues that could cause additional update failures.
  • Question: should it remain as a separate plugin repo (not on the WordPress GitHub) until we know more? Thoughts invited. @afragen: It will also be very difficult to evaluate that, but I’m open to saying if there’s a server timeout it could be related.
    • some support for moving it to WordPress GitHub account
    • @davidb suggested gaining more visibility would help and following view of the maintainers. Agreement from the meeting of the benefits of extra visibility. @audrasjb shared how promoting visibility had helped a lot for plugins and themes auto-updates, and he will share what was done for that feature plugin
    • @hellofromtonya: Getting more on it will also help us to further improve plugin and theme updates. Hoping to collect more information on the root causes for update failures
    • @sergeybiryukov: My concern is that the plugin in its current state doesn’t seem to follow the direction outlined in comment 56 on the ticket. More discussion planned for the next #core-auto-updates meeting.
    • #51857: Add rollback for failed plugin/theme updates – I don’t think that comment was as much about rollback as making the update process more robust. I think that was suggested as an alternative to rollback that would have fewer performance concerns. We could probably have both.
    • @hellofromtonya: improving the update process itself is important! If we get robust enough, it negates the need to rollback when a failure happens. That assumes though that failures will never happen, which not sure if that’s a reasonable assumption.

Next steps:

Open Floor

Who is moderating feedback on the Code Reference? @audrasjb once a week and @crstauf more regularly. This is part of the Docs Team’s work.

#5-6-1, #5-7, #dev-chat, #fse, #plugin-theme-rollback

Devchat meeting summary – May 20, 2020

@francina facilitated the chat on this agenda.
Meeting recap by @audrasjb and @marybaum.

Full meeting transcript on Slack

Announcements

Just a few hours before the chat, the hardworking team behind the plugins and themes auto-updates feature committed it to Core! Congrats to all!

Check out this related ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. that adds Help Tabs text to update-core, themes and plugins WP-Adminadmin (and super admin) screens: #50215

If you’d like to be part of the Full Site Editing outreach experiment, the sign-up deadline is now May 22. @chanthaboune noted that’s just to show interest, not a commitment yet.

Highlighted posts

Upcoming releases

WordPress 5.5

The next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope. of WordPress is in active development (Alpha cycle).

@francina noted the team is not quite complete, but it’s confirmed that @matt will return as release leadRelease Lead The community member ultimately responsible for the Release.@davidbaumwald as co-lead in the role of Triagetriage The act of evaluating and sorting bug reports, in order to decide priority, severity, and other factors. PM and @sergeybiryukov as Core tech lead. The 5.5 team will also mentor the 5.6 team.

WordPress 5.4.2

@audrasjb shared that there are 20 tickets in the milestone. Of those, 17 are closed as fixed.

@whyisjake leads this point releaseMinor Release A set of releases or versions having the same minor version number may be collectively referred to as .x , for example version 5.2.x to refer to versions 5.2, 5.2.1, 5.2.3, and all other versions in the 5.2 (five dot two) branch of that software. Minor Releases often make improvements to existing features and functionality., and the group firmed plans for a release candidaterelease candidate One of the final stages in the version release cycle, this version signals the potential to be a final release to the public. Also see alpha (beta). on June 3 and a final release June 10.

Components check-in and status updates

@whyisjake was exuberant that the core team was able to merge the auto-updates code today. This is going to do a great deal to help people stay on top of updates for a safer WordPress ecosystem.

The merge is just the latest significant step toward the master plan for 2020. Lazy-loading of images merged a few weeks ago, and XML sitemaps is making great progress as well.

On the accessibilityAccessibility Accessibility (commonly shortened to a11y) refers to the design of products, devices, services, or environments for people with disabilities. The concept of accessible design ensures both “direct access” (i.e. unassisted) and “indirect access” meaning compatibility with a person’s assistive technology (for example, computer screen readers). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessibility) side, @audrasjb shared that most of the accessibility team’s main projects for 5.5 are moving forward. Alternate views for posts, users, and comments lists should be ready for review soon.

@johnbillion wanted to note that weekly meetings for Multisitemultisite Used to describe a WordPress installation with a network of multiple blogs, grouped by sites. This installation type has shared users tables, and creates separate database tables for each blog (wp_posts becomes wp_0_posts). See also network, blog, site have restarted, on Tuesdays at 17:00 UTC in #core-multisite. Come join them!

In Site Health, @clorith pointed out that the Theme Review Team has implemented requirements for PHPPHP The web scripting language in which WordPress is primarily architected. WordPress requires PHP 5.6.20 or higher headers in themes. That move should push users in the right direction for updates.

As well, the Site Health component team has had discussions with hosting about bumping the version for Servehappy dashboard nags.

Open floor

@dlh wanted to highlight #48416. He recently encountered a use for it again. If you’re interested in the taxonomyTaxonomy A taxonomy is a way to group things together. In WordPress, some common taxonomies are category, link, tag, or post format. https://codex.wordpress.org/Taxonomies#Default_Taxonomies. component, please give it a look.

@sippis reminded everyone to register for WCEU 2020 Online Contributor DayContributor Day Contributor Days are standalone days, frequently held before or after WordCamps but they can also happen at any time. They are events where people get together to work on various areas of https://make.wordpress.org/ There are many teams that people can participate in, each with a different focus. https://2017.us.wordcamp.org/contributor-day/ https://make.wordpress.org/support/handbook/getting-started/getting-started-at-a-contributor-day/., which is Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 13:00 UTC. If you don’t register, you won’t get the emails you’ll need in advance, so don’t forget to register.

#5-4-2, #5-5, #dev-chat, #feature-autoupdates, #fse, #summary, #wceu, #wceu-2020

An Experimental Outreach Project for Full Site Editing

Update: following some discussion about themes as they relate to full site editing, I’ve extended the deadline for expressing interest in this program for an additional week, closing on 22 May, 2020. – Josepha

As we approach the second release of 2020 with an eye toward WordPress 5.6, I’ve got full site editing (FSE) on my mind. During the WordPress 5.0 retrospective, one of the things that came up routinely was the need for better engagement with users*. It was generally agreed (from all levels and areas of contribution) that users* will be most impacted by GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/, but that users* are also the group we have the least channels of communication to.

To help get user feedback to WordPress developers a little more seamlessly, I am going to try an experimental outreach project. With FSE set to launch by the end of the year, this experiment aims to get feedback about pain points to the right people faster and help keep us on track for Phase 2.

If you are interested in testing early versions of upcoming releases that will make FSE work better for you, your customers, or anyone who is building or maintaining a WordPress site, please fill out this interest form between now and May 14th. By filling out the interest form below, you’ll get more information about the program when it launches: 

Sign me up for more information!

I’m still working on the finer points of this experiment, but the intention is to use Gutenberg in as close to a client setting as possible. Time to provide feedback is flexible but could be up to 3 hours a week on average. Thanks in advance if you’re able to help us shape this work!

The interest form will be open until May 14th, 2020!

#testing #FSE

*Users can be defined in many ways, but in this case, I’m referring to those who build with WordPress (not those who build WordPress) and those who maintain WordPress sites (not those who visit sites).