Dev Chat Summary: 29th April, 2020

@francina facilitated the latest weekly Dev Chat on this agenda; here’s the Slack transcript.

Announcements

@whyisjake announced the official release of WordPress 5.4.1.

The group took a moment to cheer this second releaseRelease A release is the distribution of the final version of an application. A software release may be either public or private and generally constitutes the initial or new generation of a new or upgraded application. A release is preceded by the distribution of alpha and then beta versions of the software. accomplished during the pandemic. To quote @whyisjake

“Thank you all for helping get out this release. It’s an amazing example of the collaboration, dedication, and spirit of open sourceOpen Source Open Source denotes software for which the original source code is made freely available and may be redistributed and modified. Open Source **must be** delivered via a licensing model, see GPL.. Releases like this really makemake A collection of P2 blogs at make.wordpress.org, which are the home to a number of contributor groups, including core development (make/core, formerly "wpdevel"), the UI working group (make/ui), translators (make/polyglots), the theme reviewers (make/themes), resources for plugin authors (make/plugins), and the accessibility working group (make/accessibility). the web a better place.”

@whyisjake

Upcoming Releases

Work is underway for WordPress 5.5 – and has been, since the branchbranch A directory in Subversion. WordPress uses branches to store the latest development code for each major release (3.9, 4.0, etc.). Branches are then updated with code for any minor releases of that branch. Sometimes, a major version of WordPress and its minor versions are collectively referred to as a "branch", such as "the 4.0 branch". at 5.4 RC2. This is prime time for you to actively develop, test, give feedback and more. @davidbaumwald has scheduled the first bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. scrub for Tuesday, May 5, 2020, at 18:00 UTC and has already published it on the meetings page

Highlighted/Blogblog (versus network, site) Posts

These posts need your feedback, as soon as you can get your thoughts together:

5.4 Retrospective – Call for feedback – Deadline April 30

Please focus your feedback on processes only. Next week @francina will collect it all and publish a recap much as she did for 5.3.

So far, chat participants noted there hasn’t been a whole lot of feedback from 5.4 – why not? Speculation included:

  • the release went particularly smoothly, 
  • privacy concerns,
  • the state of the world,
  • some combination of the above! 

WordPress 5.5: Call for Tickets – Deadline April 30

Please add the tickets you most want to see land in 5.5 to the comments of this post.

Of course, please remember that there are no magic bullets – nobody can guarantee your ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker.’s inclusion in the next release. With that said, the team (which does include you!) can only fix what we know is wrong. So please bravely share!

Proposal: Core Team Rep Elections 

@francina and several others admitted they were confused about whether this post is for adding nominations or getting feedback on the idea of a nomination process ahead of a second post to come, to add nominations. After some discussion,  the group decided to ask @jeffpaul for a separate nomination post. He agreed, and it’s up!

WCEU Online 2020 Contributor Day

Thanks to the confusion around Team Reps, since that’s who works with the Contributor DayContributor Day Contributor Days are standalone days, frequently held before or after WordCamps but they can also happen at any time. They are events where people get together to work on various areas of https://make.wordpress.org/ There are many teams that people can participate in, each with a different focus. https://2017.us.wordcamp.org/contributor-day/ https://make.wordpress.org/support/handbook/getting-started/getting-started-at-a-contributor-day/. squads of every WordCampWordCamp WordCamps are casual, locally-organized conferences covering everything related to WordPress. They're one of the places where the WordPress community comes together to teach one another what they’ve learned throughout the year and share the joy. Learn more., the group tabled the discussion of WordCamp Europe Contributor Day until next week.

REST API: Decision on Introducing a dashboard namespace 

In the words of the post, “the REST APIREST API The REST API is an acronym for the RESTful Application Program Interface (API) that uses HTTP requests to GET, PUT, POST and DELETE data. It is how the front end of an application (think “phone app” or “website”) can communicate with the data store (think “database” or “file system”) https://developer.wordpress.org/rest-api/. team has decided on giving major features their own namespace. For example, wp-site-health and wp-customize.” This should help all sorts of people find these features and hook into them a lot more easily.

Components Check-in

@garrett-eclipse announced that Privacy + Multisitemultisite Used to describe a WordPress installation with a network of multiple blogs, grouped by sites. This installation type has shared users tables, and creates separate database tables for each blog (wp_posts becomes wp_0_posts). See also network, blog, site will share a focus in 5.5 to bring the relevant tools to multisite. Teamwork makes the dream work!💥

@azaozz has been investigating the best way to update jQuery: https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/37110#comment:105. The work will take three WordPress releases and can start in 5.5. Please review his plan! 

@desrosj is planning to update the SimplePie library and, possibly, PHPMailer in 5.5. He welcomes your reviews and thoughts on both.

@audrasjb updated the group on Plugins & Themes Auto-updates. This week the merge proposal goes live on Make/CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. — and patches on the tickets, too.

Discussions

How long do we let a merge proposal percolate?

@whyisjake asked: in light of the auto-updates work, how much time do we normally let a merge proposal percolate before moving forward? A lively discussion followed, with resident historians @azaozz and @jorbin chiming in and concurring: it obviously depends on the proposal, but generally speaking, 1-2 weeks and a blog post is reasonable.

What are the plans for 5.4.2?

@asif2bd asked when 5.4.2 might be released. The answer: only if necessary.

If nothing major comes up in the next couple of weeks post 5.4.1, we’ll move onto 5.5. Now, @desrosj did create a 5.4.2 milestone when it became clear 5.4.1 wouldn’t include a bundled-theme update, in case we need it for backporting later. For now, there are no compelling reasons to do another minor — but stay tuned! Things can always change. 

Friendly Reminder

Finally, @francina reminded the group that you don’t have to wait for devchat to raise issues for discussion. In fact, you should really start the conversation ahead of time.

Here’s how: 

  • Post something on the blog – async conversations starts
  • Schedule an extra meeting here or in the relevant channel and advertise it far and wide so people can attend
  • Post a recap in the blog
  • Rinse and repeat as necessary.  

Take care!

#5-4-1, #5-5, #meeting-notes, #devchat

Dev Chat Agenda for April 29, 2020

Here is the agenda for the weekly meeting happening later today: Wednesday, April 29, 2020, at 20:00 UTC.

Announcements

If anyone has any announcement to makemake A collection of P2 blogs at make.wordpress.org, which are the home to a number of contributor groups, including core development (make/core, formerly "wpdevel"), the UI working group (make/ui), translators (make/polyglots), the theme reviewers (make/themes), resources for plugin authors (make/plugins), and the accessibility working group (make/accessibility)., now is the time!

Upcoming Releases

  • Work continues on WordPress 5.4.1 lead by @whyisjake. WordPress 5.4.1 RC1 is out.
  • All the maintainers have been pinged about 5.5. The information has been collected and expect a further pingPing The act of sending a very small amount of data to an end point. Ping is used in computer science to illicit a response from a target server to test it’s connection. Ping is also a term used by Slack users to @ someone or send them a direct message (DM). Users might say something along the lines of “Ping me when the meeting starts.” for a status update so the schedule for 5.5 can be finalised.

Highlighted/Need Feedback Blogblog (versus network, site) Posts

Components Check-in

  • News from components
  • Components that need help/Orphaned components
  • Cross-component collaboration

Open Floor

Got something to propose for the agenda, or a specific item relevant to our standard list above?

Please leave a comment, and say whether or not you’ll be in the chat, so the group can either give you the floor or bring up your topic for you, accordingly.

This meeting happens in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#5-4-1, #5-5, #agenda, #devchat

Dev Chat Agenda for April 22, 2020

Here is the agenda for the weekly meeting happening later today: Wednesday, April 22, 2020, at 20:00 UTC.

Announcements

If anyone has any announcement to makemake A collection of P2 blogs at make.wordpress.org, which are the home to a number of contributor groups, including core development (make/core, formerly "wpdevel"), the UI working group (make/ui), translators (make/polyglots), the theme reviewers (make/themes), resources for plugin authors (make/plugins), and the accessibility working group (make/accessibility)., now is the time!

Upcoming Releases

  • Work has started on WordPress 5.4.1 lead by @whyisjake
  • All the maintainers have been pinged about 5.5. Some replied, some didn’t – please do, so scope and schedule can be proposed.
  • Work for 5.6, aka all-women release, continues. All the women that expressed interest have been contacted. @chanthaboune, @angelasjin, @cbringmann and I will work on phase 2: identifying missing roles and cohorts to organise the team that will ride along with 5.5

Highlighted blogblog (versus network, site) posts

Components Check-in

I have pinged MetaMeta Meta is a term that refers to the inside workings of a group. For us, this is the team that works on internal WordPress sites like WordCamp Central and Make WordPress. about having a weekly scheduled post to check Components status – @dd32 expressed some concerns about the noise that it will create. I would still suggest to move on with this for a three-month test.

But in the meantime… the usual:

  • News from components
  • Components that need help/Orphaned components
  • Cross-component collaboration

Open Floor

Got something to propose for the agenda, or a specific item relevant to our standard list above?

Please leave a comment, and say whether or not you’ll be in the chat, so the group can either give you the floor or bring up your topic for you, accordingly.

This meeting happens in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#5-4-1, #5-5, #5-6, #agenda, #devchat

Dev Chat Agenda for April 15, 2020

Here is the agenda for the weekly meeting happening later today: Wednesday April 15, 2020 at 20:00 UTC.

Announcements

If anyone has any announcement to makemake A collection of P2 blogs at make.wordpress.org, which are the home to a number of contributor groups, including core development (make/core, formerly "wpdevel"), the UI working group (make/ui), translators (make/polyglots), the theme reviewers (make/themes), resources for plugin authors (make/plugins), and the accessibility working group (make/accessibility)., now is the time!

Highlighted blogblog (versus network, site) posts

Components Check-in

  • News from components
  • Components that need help
  • Cross-component collaboration

Open Floor

Got something to propose for the agenda, or a specific item relevant to our standard list above?

Please leave a comment, and say whether or not you’ll be in the chat, so the group can either give you the floor or bring up your topic for you, accordingly.

This meeting happens in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#5-4, #agenda, #devchat

Core Team Chat Changes for Daylight Savings Time

As @audrasjb noted in last night’s Dev Chat summary, three meetings will start one hour earlier, beginning next Wednesday, April 15.

That’s because all the countries who switch to Daylight time have done that. The US is traditionally the beginning of a four-week process that ends early in April. The process reverses in the fall.

The CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. devchat will start at 20:00 UTC, or 8 pm UTC, on Wednesdays.

That in turn will push the New Contributor meeting and the ReleaseRelease A release is the distribution of the final version of an application. A software release may be either public or private and generally constitutes the initial or new generation of a new or upgraded application. A release is preceded by the distribution of alpha and then beta versions of the software. Model Working Group meeting, which alternate Wednesdays immediately beforehand, to 19:00 UTC, or 7:00 pm UTC.

The Release Model Working Group will meet on April 15, and the New Contributor meeting will see you on April 22.

So mark your calendar accordingly, and the teams hope to see you there!

In the meantime, if you celebrate a spring holiday, please accept the community’s wishes for a happy, healthy and safe occasion.

#devchat, #meeting-changes

Devchat meeting summary – April 8, 2020

@audrasjb facilitated the chat on this agenda.

Full meeting transcript on Slack

Announcements

Upcoming Releases

Next minor releaseMinor Release A set of releases or versions having the same minor version number may be collectively referred to as .x , for example version 5.2.x to refer to versions 5.2, 5.2.1, 5.2.3, and all other versions in the 5.2 (five dot two) branch of that software. Minor Releases often make improvements to existing features and functionality.: WP 5.4.1

While there is no releaseRelease A release is the distribution of the final version of an application. A software release may be either public or private and generally constitutes the initial or new generation of a new or upgraded application. A release is preceded by the distribution of alpha and then beta versions of the software. planning for the moment, there is already 12 tickets in the milestone.

2 tickets are labelled with major severityseverity The seriousness of the ticket in the eyes of the reporter. Generally, severity is a judgment of how bad a bug is, while priority is its relationship to other bugs.. It will probably lead to a point releaseMinor Release A set of releases or versions having the same minor version number may be collectively referred to as .x , for example version 5.2.x to refer to versions 5.2, 5.2.1, 5.2.3, and all other versions in the 5.2 (five dot two) branch of that software. Minor Releases often make improvements to existing features and functionality. in few weeks.

@whyisjake will run a first bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. scrub for WP 5.4.1 on Thursday April 9, 2020 at 20:00 UTC.

@marybaum volunteered to run another bug scrub on Friday.

Next major releasemajor release A release, identified by the first two numbers (3.6), which is the focus of a full release cycle and feature development. WordPress uses decimaling count for major release versions, so 2.8, 2.9, 3.0, and 3.1 are sequential and comparable in scope.: WP 5.5

There is currently 27 tickets with early keyword in the milestone. Those tickets need to be merged as soon as possible.

@davidbaumwald will run a first bug scrub for WP 5.5 on Tuesday April 14, 2020 at 19:00 UTC.

Component maintainers updates

@afragen shared a number of tickets for theme compatibility that still need eyes and are marked early. All have working patches and need further testing.

@audrasjb pointed out that the Auto-updates team needs a cross-team discussion about wording and specifically concerning the action links text labels. Design and AccessibilityAccessibility Accessibility (commonly shortened to a11y) refers to the design of products, devices, services, or environments for people with disabilities. The concept of accessible design ensures both “direct access” (i.e. unassisted) and “indirect access” meaning compatibility with a person’s assistive technology (for example, computer screen readers). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessibility) teams could help, and of course everyone interested. Design & Wording validation is the main goal for the next version of the feature pluginFeature Plugin A plugin that was created with the intention of eventually being proposed for inclusion in WordPress Core. See Features as Plugins..

@garrett-eclipse shared that the Privacy team has a multisitemultisite Used to describe a WordPress installation with a network of multiple blogs, grouped by sites. This installation type has shared users tables, and creates separate database tables for each blog (wp_posts becomes wp_0_posts). See also network, blog, site focus in 5.5 so any people from Networknetwork (versus site, blog)/multisite component is welcome to assist.

Daylight saving time: devchat meeting time change

As Daylight saving time already started for every countries/locales on our planet 🌏 the devchat meeting time will be adjusted from 21:00 UTC to 20:00 UTC.

The next meeting will be held on Wednesday April 15, 2020 at 20:00 UTC.

@marybaum is going to publish a specific announcement about this adjustment.

#5-4-1, #5-4, #5-5, #dev-chat, #devchat

Dev Chat Agenda for April 8, 2020

Here is the agenda for the weekly meeting happening later today: Wednesday April 8, 2020 at 21:00 UTC.

Announcements

If anyone has any announcement to makemake A collection of P2 blogs at make.wordpress.org, which are the home to a number of contributor groups, including core development (make/core, formerly "wpdevel"), the UI working group (make/ui), translators (make/polyglots), the theme reviewers (make/themes), resources for plugin authors (make/plugins), and the accessibility working group (make/accessibility)., now is the time!

Highlighted blogblog (versus network, site) posts

  • Showing Online WordCamps in the Events Widget – Should online WordCamps be added to the Events widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user.? If so, who should they be shown to?
  • 5.4 Retrospective – Call for feedback

Components Check-in

  • News from components
  • Components that need help
  • Cross-component collaboration

Open Floor

Got something to propose for the agenda, or a specific item relevant to our standard list above?

Please leave a comment, and say whether or not you’ll be in the chat, so the group can either give you the floor or bring up your topic for you, accordingly.

This meeting happens in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#5-4, #agenda, #devchat

Dev Chat Agenda for April 1, 2020

Here is the agenda for the weekly meeting happening later today: Wednesday, March 25, 2020, at 09:00 PM UTC.

Announcements

WordPress 5.4 “Adderley” was released yesterday, March 31, 2020!

Highlighted blogblog (versus network, site) posts

Components Check-in

  • News from components
  • Components that need help
  • Cross-component collaboration

Open Floor

Got something to propose for the agenda, or a specific item relevant to our standard list above?

Please leave a comment, and say whether or not you’ll be in the chat, so the group can either give you the floor or bring up your topic for you, accordingly.

This meeting happens in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#5-4, #agenda, #devchat

Dev Chat Agenda for March 25, 2020 (5.4 Week 11)

Here is the agenda for the weekly meeting happening later today: Wednesday, March 25, 2020, at 09:00 PM UTC.

Announcements

WordPress 5.4 Release Candidate 4 landed yesterday, March 24, as scheduled.

Upcoming Releases

  • The current major is 5.4, scheduled to go out on March 31st 2020; please keep testing for all the bugs!
  • Trunktrunk A directory in Subversion containing the latest development code in preparation for the next major release cycle. If you are running "trunk", then you are on the latest revision. has branched to 5.5 on the beginning of March. That means 5.5 is officially in Alpha.
  • Work for 5.6, aka all-women release, has kicked off with an initial round of messages going out to the women that expressed interest.

Components Check-in

  • News from components
  • Components that need help
  • Cross-component collaboration

Open Floor

Got something to propose for the agenda, or a specific item relevant to our standard list above?

Please leave a comment, and say whether or not you’ll be in the chat, so the group can either give you the floor or bring up your topic for you, accordingly.

This meeting happens in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#5-4, #agenda, #devchat

Dev Chat Agenda for March 18, 2020 (5.4 Week 10)

Here is the agenda for the weekly meeting happening later today: Wednesday, March 18, 2020, at 09:00 PM UTC.

Announcements

WordPress 5.4 Release Candidate 3 landed yesterday, March 18, as scheduled.

Upcoming Releases

The current major is 5.4; please keep testing for all the bugs. At the same time, trunktrunk A directory in Subversion containing the latest development code in preparation for the next major release cycle. If you are running "trunk", then you are on the latest revision. has branched to 5.5 as of RC1. That means 5.5 is officially in alpha.

Final releaseRelease A release is the distribution of the final version of an application. A software release may be either public or private and generally constitutes the initial or new generation of a new or upgraded application. A release is preceded by the distribution of alpha and then beta versions of the software. is March 31.

Components Check-in

  • News from components
  • Components that need help
  • Cross-component collaboration

Open Floor

Got something to propose for the agenda, or a specific item relevant to our standard list above?

Please leave a comment, and say whether or not you’ll be in the chat, so the group can either give you the floor or bring up your topic for you, accordingly.

This meeting happens in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#5-4, #agenda, #devchat