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Jeffrey Paul 8:24 pm on September 7, 2017
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Dev Chat Summary: September 6th (4.9 week 6)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from September 6th (agenda, Slack archive).

4.9 schedule review

  • 3 weeks until the feature project merge deadline, 4 weeks until BetaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. 1
  • CustomizerCustomizer Tool built into WordPress core that hooks into most modern themes. You can use it to preview and modify many of your site’s appearance settings. improvements for merging Changeset drafting and scheduling has yet to kick off development, designs are nearing completion (see: #39896 and #28721)
  • Gallery widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user. is still under development but it seems to have stalled, TODO’s noted on related GitHub PR
    • @joemcgill to look into avoiding serializing attachments data in the widget this week
  • @obenland working on wrestling the widget mapping issue when switching themes (see: #39693)
  • Page on Front progressing slowly, likely not ready for dev before Feature Merge
  • Theme switching issue for nav menu mapping has already been merged in trunktrunk A directory in Subversion containing the latest development code in preparation for the next major release cycle. If you are running "trunk", then you are on the latest revision. (see: #39692)
  • CodeMirror feature pluginFeature Plugin A plugin that was created with the intention of eventually being proposed for inclusion in WordPress Core. See Features as Plugins. (aka Better Code Editing) needs testing and a few outstanding issues that would benefit from contributors. Plan is to merge this week.
  • @psykro to look into #9757
  • “Add Media” button in the Text widget great opportunity for new contributors
  • #35827 could use an owner and remaining items in 4.9 Goals post could use contributors to help land in the release

Editor update

  • GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ updated to v1.1.0 and continued testing and help with GitHub issues are always welcomed!

Iterating in trunk

  • @matt: I’m fine with more iteration happening in trunk vs how we’re bouncing patches around TracTrac An open source project by Edgewall Software that serves as a bug tracker and project management tool for WordPress. so much
  • @matt: I’m okay with parts of trunk being broken as we iterate in this phase of dev
  • @desrosj: Do we have an established process for reverting things that break?
  • @obenland: I think we’re not talking about “PHPPHP The web scripting language in which WordPress is primarily architected. WordPress requires PHP 5.6.20 or higher fatals”-broken, but rather a feature maybe not fully functional

HTML5 input types for validation

  • @afercia: any thoughts about relying on HTML5 input types browsers built-in validation only?
  • @azaozz: used to be buggy, seems to be working properly now
  • @afercia: seems to me still premature to rely on required for validation
  • @afercia: looking to leads to make a decision as new browsers support policy
  • @asaozz: Worth some testing, especially on the “lower end”, IE11
  • @afercia: there are still CSSCSS Cascading Style Sheets. rules in ie.css for Internet Explorer 6 (and 7, and 8). Can they just be dropped?
  • @azaozz: no need of ie.css in my honest opinion
  • @azaozz: intention is not to completely break old browsers if they still work, but to stop testing in them
  • @clorith: concerned about users locked into older browsers, like IE8, and keeping option for them to enqueue scripts relevant to their browser
  • @afercia: I wanted to start the discussion about this as it relates to the new browsers support policy

General announcements

  • @danieltj: looking to include #41704 and #41817 in 4.9, patches exists just need testing
  • @danieltj: updated #35554 as seems worth including with 4.9, also needs testing
  • @dougal: looking for dev-feedback or 2nd-opinion on #41746
  • @mte90: waiting on review of patches on #13377, #17019, #14148
    • @jbpaul17: will start 4.9 bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. scrubs in a couple weeks, may get more focused response from people then

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Jeffrey Paul 3:32 pm on August 31, 2017
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Dev Chat Summary: August 30th (4.9 week 5)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from August 30th (agenda, Slack archive).

4.9 schedule review

  • 4 weeks until the feature project merge deadline, 5 weeks until BetaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. 1
  • CodeMirror feature plugin (aka Better Code Editing) aiming for merge in 2 weeks
    • @westonruter: Integration with CodeMirror’s linter is almost done to prevent the user from being able to save changes to the file editor, Additional CSSCSS Cascading Style Sheets. in the CustomizerCustomizer Tool built into WordPress core that hooks into most modern themes. You can use it to preview and modify many of your site’s appearance settings., and the Custom HTMLHTML HyperText Markup Language. The semantic scripting language primarily used for outputting content in web browsers. widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user. if there are syntax errors in the code.
    • Demo: Blocking WordPress file editor saves via linting in CodeMirror
    • Still want to implement a PHPPHP The web scripting language in which WordPress is primarily architected. WordPress requires PHP 5.6.20 or higher linter to help prevent whitescreening a site
    • Prior effort by @georgestephanis to add a PHP linter by using the PHP binary on the server had to be reverted because it will not be available on many hosts
    • May be able to implement a rudimentary PHP linter that uses CodeMirror’s tokenizer and use it to at least make sure that basic syntax is valid
    • For anyone who wants to contribute, please follow Issue#48
    • Aiming to release v0.5.0 of the plugin on WordPress.org today
    • It needs user testing and code review.
  • @azaozz: looking for second opinion on #41752.
    • Should we refactor the JSJS JavaScript, a web scripting language typically executed in the browser. Often used for advanced user interfaces and behaviors. so it still works with (very) old plugins and themes?
    • It should replace the UIUI User interface with a simple input type=“file”. If yes, any takers to do that?
    • If only a handful of plugins/themes affected, then we could work with the pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party authors to update rather than maintain back-compat in coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. for something that is dead.
    • @westonruter: will upload the results of my acking for affected plugins/themes to TracTrac An open source project by Edgewall Software that serves as a bug tracker and project management tool for WordPress. when it finishes
  • @westonruter: one of the 4.9 feature ideas that had excitement was updating themes and plugins via ZIP upload, where this is not allowed (see #9757)
    • This work currently needs an owner, otherwise it is in risk of getting punted from the release
    • There are some good orientation comments at the end by pento and dd32 which can help you get started
  • @westonruter: big Customizer features planned for this release, including drafting and scheduling, have designs currently being worked on by @joshuawold and @folletto (see: #39896 #28721)
  • Reminder of the tickets in the goals post targeted for 4.9, please help specifically with these… thanks!

Update to Editor weekly meeting focus

  • Office hours on Wednesdays at 17:00 UTC are becoming tickets sessions to go through issues together for each weekly milestone of GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/.
  • Please join then to help move that project forward.

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Jeffrey Paul 4:11 pm on August 24, 2017
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Dev Chat Summary: August 23rd (4.9 week 4)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from August 23rd (agenda, Slack archive).

Review 4.9-early tickets

  • Items in TracTrac An open source project by Edgewall Software that serves as a bug tracker and project management tool for WordPress. all seem to need owners, especially since they were all tagged 4.8-early as well
  • Should also include work on CodeMirror which needs more testing and contributions
    • Can currently be downloaded from the latest tagged release
    • Feedback is best on GitHub Issues for now, until the pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party is merged
    • Will work to get it into the w.org repo for easier installation
  • #39693 could use a review from another committercommitter A developer with commit access. WordPress has five lead developers and four permanent core developers with commit access. Additionally, the project usually has a few guest or component committers - a developer receiving commit access, generally for a single release cycle (sometimes renewed) and/or for a specific component.

Gutenberg testing

  • GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ just released v0.9.0 and if you haven’t tested in a while this would be a good release to get into testing and provide feedback
  • Development is progressing and feedback is really important
  • Two tests are described in the handbook, you can also give your feedback via the plugin forum

Future support for ancient versions of WordPress

  • Discussion started previously in #core
  • @jorbin: is it time for us to stop backporting so far? Does anyone object? If not, Does anyone have ideas for how to go about it, or suggestions for me to put together a proposal on it?
  • @joemcgill: I would like to see a published proposal outlining reasons, usage data, and any tradeoffs/considerations and leave a bit of time for feedback before definitely doing this.
  • W.org Stats shows 3.7 is about 0.4%
  • @mikeschroder: We chatted about this at the summit, and about enabling protections for upgrades for major versions like we do for minor ones.
  • @ocean90: We should start with 3.7.z to 3.8.z. Note that this is already a huge step because 3.8 includes the new adminadmin (and super admin) design.
  • @jorbin: I will work on the proposal. I’ll pingPing The act of sending a very small amount of data to an end point. Ping is used in computer science to illicit a response from a target server to test it’s connection. Ping is also a term used by Slack users to @ someone or send them a direct message (DM). Users might say something along the lines of “Ping me when the meeting starts.” some of the committers and other active contributors who have contributed to this conversation to review it before publishing.

General announcements

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Jeffrey Paul 2:46 am on August 17, 2017
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Dev Chat Summary: August 16th (4.9 week 3)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from August 16th (agenda, Slack archive).

Feedback on 4.9 goals

  • @johnbillion: as part of ongoing Security focus, planning on several user account security related changes, for example bringing some of the Multisitemultisite Used to describe a WordPress installation with a network of multiple blogs, grouped by sites. This installation type has shared users tables, and creates separate database tables for each blog (wp_posts becomes wp_0_posts). See also network, blog, site confirmation emails when you change your email address into single site
  • @flixos90: Multisite team is working on REST APIREST API The REST API is an acronym for the RESTful Application Program Interface (API) that uses HTTP requests to GET, PUT, POST and DELETE data. It is how the front end of an application (think “phone app” or “website”) can communicate with the data store (think “database” or “file system”) https://developer.wordpress.org/rest-api/. endpoints for the multisite objects, like sites and networks, plus improvements to the users endpoint that make it compatible with multisite
  • @westonruter: just published 0.2.0 of the codemirror-wp plugin which adds an a11yAccessibility Accessibility (commonly shortened to a11y) refers to the design of products, devices, services, or environments for people with disabilities. The concept of accessible design ensures both “direct access” (i.e. unassisted) and “indirect access” meaning compatibility with a person’s assistive technology (for example, computer screen readers). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessibility) option to the user profile screen to opt-out of syntax highlighting in the same way that a user can opt-out of the visual editor
  • @westonruter: feedback and help welcomed via the CodeMirror repo
  • @westonruter: CustomizerCustomizer Tool built into WordPress core that hooks into most modern themes. You can use it to preview and modify many of your site’s appearance settings. drafting and scheduling (essentially porting the features from the Customize Snapshots plugin) is currently working through designs with @joshuawold, once that’s set this will move to implementation

Component roadmaps

  • @desrosj: Multisite team using weekly meetings to re-organize the Networknetwork (versus site, blog) & Sites component’s roadmap to align with CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress.’s current focuses and the component’s short and long term goals
  • @desrosj: We propose using make.wordpress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org//core/roadmap/ as a location for components to house their roadmaps (multisite living at `make.wordpress.org/core/roadmap/multisite`) as roadmap posts on the Make/Core blogblog (versus network, site) slowly get pushed away as new posts are published
  • @desrosj: The roadmap outline (brief descriptions of each item, a timeline, some tickets to focus on immediately) would live on these roadmap pages, and link out to make blog posts with specific details about each item.
  • Agreement to proceed with this with Multisite and assess how its working before pushing other components to do the same

General announcements

  • @koenhuybrechts: looking for update on #17268
  • @mte90: looking for update on #12955
    • @drewapicture: concern with potential performance hit due to the sheer number of times it’s called on a given page load; will leave a comment on the ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker.
  • @mte90: looking for an update on #13657
    • No one around related to the Database component, will continue to look for updates via the ticket
  • @mte90: looking for an update on #40542 as well as my other patches

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Jeffrey Paul 3:14 pm on August 11, 2017
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Dev Chat Summary: August 9th (4.9 week 2)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from August 9th (agenda, Slack archive).

4.8.1 release feedback

  • Forums team hasn’t had to update the “4.8 Master List” post with any problems, a relatively smooth release altogether
  • No concerns identified that would require a subsequent immediate minor releaseMinor Release A set of releases or versions having the same minor version number may be collectively referred to as .x , for example version 5.2.x to refer to versions 5.2, 5.2.1, 5.2.3, and all other versions in the 5.2 (five dot two) branch of that software. Minor Releases often make improvements to existing features and functionality.

4.9 goals

  • @melchoyce and @westonruter have assembled a list 4.9 goals
  • @kadamwhite would like to see movement on REST APIREST API The REST API is an acronym for the RESTful Application Program Interface (API) that uses HTTP requests to GET, PUT, POST and DELETE data. It is how the front end of an application (think “phone app” or “website”) can communicate with the data store (think “database” or “file system”) https://developer.wordpress.org/rest-api/. backlog tickets, specifically metaMeta Meta is a term that refers to the inside workings of a group. For us, this is the team that works on internal WordPress sites like WordCamp Central and Make WordPress. registration for object subtypes (#38323) and media permissions (#41445)
  • REST API roadmap document still being assembled, but not yet published
  • “Updating a pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party or theme via a ZIP file” and “drag and drop uploading of themes and plugins” are going to need support from contributors to the Upgrade/Install component
  • If you have interest in helping maintain the Upgrade/Install component (or any others) please reach out to @drewapicture

General announcements

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Jeffrey Paul 3:15 am on August 3, 2017
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Dev Chat Summary: August 2nd (4.9 week 1)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from August 2nd (agenda, Slack archive).

4.8.1 RC2 feedback & planned release post-devchat

  • 4.8.1 includes fixes for the text widget, delayed yesterday due to performance issues identified
  • 4.8.1RC2 on WordPress.comWordPress.com An online implementation of WordPress code that lets you immediately access a new WordPress environment to publish your content. WordPress.com is a private company owned by Automattic that hosts the largest multisite in the world. This is arguably the best place to start blogging if you have never touched WordPress before. https://wordpress.com/ stable, no longer experiencing the performance issues
  • No noticeable feedback in the forums regarding the text widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user. changes, TracTrac An open source project by Edgewall Software that serves as a bug tracker and project management tool for WordPress. has been quiet in the widgets component
  • #41373 reported against 4.8, doesn’t seem to be a new regressionregression A software bug that breaks or degrades something that previously worked. Regressions are often treated as critical bugs or blockers. Recent regressions may be given higher priorities. A "3.6 regression" would be a bug in 3.6 that worked as intended in 3.5. introduced by 4.8.1 or a blockerblocker A bug which is so severe that it blocks a release.
  • No concerns with the plan to release 4.8.1 after devchat

4.9 kickoff

  • 4.9 release schedule page is available, with particular highlights:
    • WordPress 4.9 will be the second “major” release of 2017 with the theme of editing code, managing plugins and themes, a user-centric way to customize a site, and polishing some recently added features over this last year.
    • October 4, 2017 is BetaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. 1 and feature project merge deadline.
    • October 30, 2017 is Release candidaterelease candidate One of the final stages in the version release cycle, this version signals the potential to be a final release to the public. Also see alpha (beta). and soft string freeze.
    • November 14, 2017 is 🎶 Target date for release of WordPress 4.9. 🎶
    • @melchoyce and @westonruter are co-Release Leads. 🎉
  • Updated set of goals for the 4.9 release and updates to the stale Customize component page coming soon (but first, release 4.8.1)

Editor / GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ updates

Call for Component Maintainers

  • @drewapicture completed annual audit of Component Maintainers, some areas where new maintainers could be useful
  • The list on Make/CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. reflects the most current list of maintainers
  • Please reach out if you’re interested in becoming a component maintainer

General announcements

  • @jorbin: submissions open for Kim Parsell Memorial Scholarship for WordCampWordCamp WordCamps are casual, locally-organized conferences covering everything related to WordPress. They're one of the places where the WordPress community comes together to teach one another what they’ve learned throughout the year and share the joy. Learn more. US
    • WordPress Foundation gives out a scholarship that covers the cost of hotel, transportation and a ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. for WordCamp US
    • Must be: person who self-identifies as female, active contributor to WordPress via a contributor team or a local meetupMeetup All local/regional gatherings that are officially a part of the WordPress world but are not WordCamps are organized through https://www.meetup.com/. A meetup is typically a chance for local WordPress users to get together and share new ideas and seek help from one another. Searching for ‘WordPress’ on meetup.com will help you find options in your area. or WordCamp organizer, has financial need, and has never attended WordCamp US
    • No age limit on this scholarship, though older women are especially encouraged to apply
    • If you fit the requirements, please apply. If you know someone that qualifies, please encourage them to apply.

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