Dev Chat Summary: November 15th (4.9 week 16)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from November 15th (agenda, Slack archive).

4.9 schedule + release timing

  • 4.9 release was delayed from yesterday (Tuesday, November 14th) to today (Wednesday, November 15th)
  • An updated 4.9 build went out earlier today, we still have to rebuild tinymce.min.js, but otherwise please test!
  • @afercia disagrees with patching last minute serious bugs without proper, broad, testing but deferred to decision by release leads
  • 4.9 release scheduled for later today (Wednesday, November 15th) at 3pm PST / 23:00 UTC
  • [Editor note: 4.9 released successfully! 🚀]
  • We’ll discuss post-4.9 / pre-5.0 plans later once we’ve had a chance to gather broader feedback on 4.9.
  • There is currently no timeline or plan for 4.9.x, but there are tickets currently slotted as 4.9.1 in Trac.

Meeting time changes

Gutenberg update

#4-9, #core, #core-js, #core-restapi, #dev-chat, #gutenberg, #summary

Dev Chat Summary: November 8th (4.9 week 15)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from November 8th (agenda, Slack archive).

4.9 schedule

  • 4.9 RC2 went out this week
  • 4.9 release scheduled for Tuesday, November 14th at 3pm PST / 23:00 UTC
  • Decision against adding any pointers in the admin interface, changes should be discoverable without them
  • @obenland to update the Credits API on Tuesday
  • @jbpaul17 to make updates to 4.9 codex page
  • @melchoyce to generate Press Kit including screenshots and videos

Meeting time changes

Gutenberg update

General announcements

  • @jdgrimes: looking for additional help, feedback, and decisions on #41593
    • I got started on this building a PHPCS sniff for the WordPress-Coding-Standards
    • The sniff would check all calls to functions that expect slashed data, and ensure that the data passed to them was actually slashed
    • I have a list of all the functions that expect slashed data, ticket is to get all of these documented
    • There may be some places where we need to decide whether we want to keep expecting slashed data or not

#4-9, #core, #dev-chat, #summary

Dev Chat Summary: November 1st (4.9 week 14)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from November 1st (Slack archive).

4.8.3 Release

  • We've seen a few reports, one issue with meta queries in WP_Query
  • No reports of linebreaks being removed after updating to 4.8.3
  • No issues reported through plugins (just some ACF/query oddities)

4.9 schedule

  • 4.9 RC1 went out on Monday
  • No feedback on RC1 testing or other issues to discuss, but please keep testing!
  • There are three tickets remaining with needs-dev-note, all relate to work I believe @westonruter is working through
  • @jbpaul17: working to pull together the Field Guide but could use some help writing summaries for the dev notes and collecting details for the New Action Hooks, New Filter Hooks, Modified Filter Hooks, and External Library Updates sections.
  • @jbpau17: Any component maintainers that want to highlight other tickets that weren’t significant enough to warrant dev notes, please send those Trac numbers to me ASAP
  • Aiming to publish the Field Guide by the end of the week, so any help before then would be wonderfully appreciated. Please reach out to @jbpaul17 (@jeffpaul on Slack) if you have availability… thanks!

General announcements

  • @davidakennedy: I should have #42090 committed today. Working on figuring out the updated POT files now. Will ping another committer to review before commit.

#4-8-3, #4-9, #core, #dev-chat, #summary

Dev Chat Summary: October 25th (4.9 week 13)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from October 25th (agendaSlack archive).

4.9 schedule

  • Beta 4 dropped late last night / early this morning, please do help test. RC is scheduled to go out on Monday, October 30th and that entails soft string freeze.
  • For all @committers, please let @melchoyce @westonruter know if you are able to help with commits during RC as we’ll need two committers to approve a patch before merging.
  • Bug Scrubs are scheduled on Monday’s and Thursday’s. If you have availability to help run a scrub, please let @jbpau17 know. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
  • Currently nine tickets that show as needs-dev-note
  • Three Dev Notes coming from @westonruter and one from @rafa8626 (#39686); all could use proofreading
  • If anyone can help draft the Field Guide, please let @jbpaul17 know especially for things around New Action Hooks, New Filter Hooks, Modified Filter Hooks, and External Library Updates.
  • If anyone can help populating the “Developer Happiness” section of the About page, please let @melchoyce know or add notes to #42087

Editor / Gutenberg update

  • Gutenberg v1.5 includes metabox support and likely has advanced cases where the plugin will benefit from feedback and iteration.
  • You can report via GitHub, the feedback form within the Gutenberg plugin, or in #core-editor.

General announcements

  • @johnbillion: The last PHP 7.2 issue, #41526, needs some eyes and can still make it into 4.9 if another patch comes along. The original patch causes some warnings.
  • @paaljoachim: looking for comments on #42324

#4-9, #core, #dev-chat, #gutenberg, #summary

Dev Chat Summary: October 18th (4.9 week 12)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from October 18th (Slack archive).

4.9 schedule and priorities review

  • Down to 54 tickets in the 4.9 milestone, aiming to get to 40 in time for Beta 3
  • Beta 3 build process will begin around Wednesday, October 18th 20:00 PDT / Thursday, October 19th 03:00 UTC
  • Starting next week, we’ll have 2x weekly bug scrubs to get to launch
  • Note the critical bug in Safari that breaks the new theme browsing/installation experience in the Customizer; please help on this if you're familiar with Safari
  • Integration issues with Shiny Updates and the new theme installation experience in the Customizer (see: #42184). In particular, the FTP credentials modal needs work for when it gets dismissed.

Dev Notes

General announcements

  • @mnelson4: #38583 could use feedback, ideally from from REST API component maintainers

#4-9, #core, #core-customize, #core-restapi, #dev-chat, #safari, #shiny-updates, #summary

Dev Chat Summary: October 11th (4.9 week 11)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from October 11th (agendaSlack archive).

4.9 schedule and priorities review

  • Today is the Beta 2 deadline
  • Beta 2 build process will begin around Wednesday, October 11th 20:00 PDT / Thursday, October 12th 03:00 UTC
  • Next on the 4.9 release schedule will be Beta 3 next week on Wednesday, October 18th
  • Alpha/Beta/RC Forum has been quiet, excepting one that turned into a beta2 fix
  • Fix for PHP file editor came in via Twitter
  • Testing ideally focused on:
    • Remapping of nav menus and widgets when switching themes (see #39693 and #39692)
    • The updates the theme/plugin code editors
    • Scheduling and drafting in the Customizer
    • Locking in the Customizer (like post locking, but for your site changes)
    • Theme browsing and installation in Customizer
    • Revamped nav menu creation flow
    • Video and gallery widgets, plus Text widget with embeds
    • Browser testing, especially mobile + IE
  • 16 tickets still need patches
  • Would appreciate help reviewing patches and committing from committers over next two weeks

Dev Notes

  • 24 tickets tagged with needs-dev-note
  • Dev Notes were due with Beta 1, so we're behind on those
  • Please aim to publish those by this time next week so we can compile them into the Field Guide before Release Candidate

General announcements

  • @paaljoachim: Has there been any discussion about Twenty Eighteen theme?
    • No plans as of now for Twenty Eighteen, likely not enough time to start and finish by end of the year anyway
  • @presskopp: looking for an answer on my question on #42131
    • Recommendation to check with the Widget component maintainers who may otherwise be focused on Customize-related defects with 4.9

#4-9, #core, #core-customize, #dev-chat, #media-widgets, #summary

Dev Chat Summary: October 4th (4.9 week 10)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from October 4th (agendaSlack archive).

4.9 schedule

  • Today is the Beta 1 deadline for enhancements and feature requests. All tickets have been scrubbed as of earlier today, any that are still open when the Beta 1 build process begins later today will be punted to Future Release.
  • Next on the 4.9 release schedule will be Beta 2 on Wednesday, October 11th.
  • 30 enhancements and features still in the milestone
  • Beta 1 build process will begin around Wednesday, October 4th 20:00 PDT / Thursday, October 5th 03:00 UTC

Gutenberg block data storage

  • Want to start thinking about and discussing how block data is stored. We currently (specially after allowing meta attributes) have a lot of ways to store block data, with different tradeoffs. It’s going to be important to communicate when each is appropriate.
  • This will come through examples and documentation, but generally such knowledge has also spread by core contributors doing talks and blog posts, etc.
  • As people start to look at creating blocks, there are various ways to specify attributes, and different ways things can be saved (static blocks, dynamic blocks, etc). A lot of the reason people used custom fields or meta attrs will be different as blocks allow individual attributes that are still part of the content.
  • If you have input to share on that, please join in #core-editor and their weekly meetings.

REST API Handbook

  • They are moving / have moved the REST API Handbook content to GitHub.
  • Once it’s deployed, the REST API handbook’s content will be managed in GitHub.

General announcements

  • @rskansing: I want to give a thanks to the security team for always being very nice and polite in regards to my many queries and questions

#4-9, #core, #core-restapi, #dev-chat, #gutenberg, #security, #summary

Dev Chat Summary: September 27th (4.9 week 9)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from September 20th (agendaSlack archive).

4.9 schedule

  • Today is the feature project merge deadline
  • Bulk of the code editor improvements already merged into core, along with the Gallery widget
  • Theme browsing in the Customizer and drafting & scheduling in the Customizer to be merged tonight or tomorrow at the latest
  • Beta 1 in next Wednesday, enhancement tickets due by then
  • Bug scrubs scheduled over next week
  • @joemcgill: Anyone wanting to rubber duck #21819 over approaches in the media meeting tomorrow would be good
    • trying to solve a UX issue with a broadly defined outcome and different possibilities include varying levels of tech complexity
  • @danieltj: recommend putting version info into At A Glance metabox #35554
    • @melchoyce: let's get feedback on this and work to a decision in the next couple days

General announcements

  • @azaozz: removal of SWFUpload #41752 needs more testing in the affected plugins
    • would be great to see how the fallback works in all of them, so please help test
  • @kadamwhite: The REST API team is having a bug scrub on Friday at 15:00 UTC, and likely another the start of next week (time TBD). We’ve got a lot of tickets sitting with patches that are pretty close, so if you’ve got outstanding REST patches to discuss hope to see y’all then in #core-restapi!
  • @johnbillion: if anyone is running PHP 7.2 (currently in beta) it'd be great to test trunk. Some fixes will be going in shortly to remove deprecated notices, apart from that it should be bug free.
  • @obenland: Since [41594], orphaned widgets will get merged into the inactive widgets sidebar on theme switch, instead of becoming orphaned. what your opinions are on removing the concept of orphaned widgets entirely, and just have them be part of the inactive sidebar?
    • pre-41594 they would be shown in separate Orphaned Widgets sidebars above inactive widgets
    • @melchoyce: Looking for someone to take screenshots or a video of this in action on 4.8 and on trunk, so we can compare them visually

#4-9, #bug-scrub, #core, #dev-chat, #media-widgets, #php7, #summary

Dev Chat Summary: September 20th (4.9 week 8)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from September 20th (agendaSlack archive).

4.9 schedule

  • 1 week until the feature project merge deadline, 2 weeks until Beta 1
  • Drafting and scheduling (#39896) has designs and is working through development
  • Gallery widget (#41914) is now available in the Core Media Widgets feature plugin, so please test that as we plan to merge it into core next week
  • Updating a plugin via ZIP (#9757) or drag/drop (#24579) is not getting any traction, so they will likely be punted
  • Review needed on #34115 to bring the ability to use oEmbed outside the context of posts
    • This allows the Text widget to have embeds in it, as well as to be able to remove the restriction on the Video widget to only show YouTube and Vimeo
  • Long list of Code Editor tickets that could use contributors
    • If you’re interested and capable with JS and playing with CodeMirror, #41873 is a great place to start
  • Any tickets related to goals in the 4.9 Goals post should be prioritized
  • Bug scrub post will be published with dates/times to scrub features and enhancements ahead of the Beta 1 deadline. If you’re interested in helping run a scrub, then please let @jbpaul17 know.
  • User testing needed on #39693, especially running it through a battery of theme switching tasks; the goal is to improve the “it just works” experience
    • Testing steps include installing a theme, populating sidebars with widgets, switching to another theme, and checking how the widgets appear in the newly switched theme
    • If you switch back to the old theme, the sidebar widgets get restored
    • Testing should be done when switching themes via the WP admin themes page, and also via live preview in the Customizer
    • Themes that have varying numbers of sidebars would be the key to test with. Switching from a theme with 2 sidebars, to one with 4, to another with 1, to another with 5, and so on.
    • If you want to have a public test environment set up with the patch to test, then please ping @westonruter

Editor update

General announcements

#4-9, #core, #core-editor, #dev-chat, #feature-oembed, #media-widgets, #security, #summary

Dev Chat Summary: September 13th (4.9 week 7)

This post summarizes the dev chat meeting from September 13th (agendaSlack archive).

4.9 schedule and requests for contributions

  • 2 weeks until the feature project merge deadline, 3 weeks until Beta 1
  • These tickets need someone to contribute to them or else they’re in danger of not making it in 4.9:
    • Add nested folder structure deeper than 2 levels (#6531)
    • Add better warnings when you’re editing themes and plugins (even if they’re not active) (#31779, #41078)
    • Updating a plugin or theme via a ZIP file (#9757). Also, drag and drop uploading of themes and plugins (#24579)
    • Widgets: Default to “custom URL” in the image widget (#41629)
    • Customizer drafting/scheduling (#39896, #28721)
  • @westonruter: I committed CodeMirror to integrate with the Theme/Plugin editors, Custom HTML widget, and Additional CSS in the Customizer
  • @jbpaul17: looking to schedule bug scrubs, please reach out if you’re interested in helping
    • Component maintainers: Please confirm if you’re running scrubs for your component

#4-9, #core, #dev-chat, #summary