Dev Chat Agenda for January 15, 2020 (5.4 Week 1)

Here is the agenda for the weekly meeting happening later today: Wednesday, January 15, 2020, at 09:00 PM UTC.

Announcements

We are kicking off WordPress 5.4 this week!

Components Check-in

Open Floor


If you have anything to propose for the agenda or specific items related to those listed above, please leave a comment below.

This meeting is held in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#5-4, #agenda, #core, #devchat

Media Meeting Recap – January 9, 2020

Here’s a summary of the #core-media chat from January 9, 2020. Weekly media meetings happen on Thursdays at 14:00 UTC; see the full transcript here, in the Make WordPress Slack.

Attendees: @joemcgill, @karmatosed, @antpb

Upcoming Meeting Schedule

Happy 2020! Because of the holidays, the group postponed chats until Thursday, January 9.

This morning, the group also discussed moving the regular time, so more people can join the chat – particularly people working on critical tickets in the 5.4 release cycle.

Here are three options. Vote for your favorite in the comments:

  • Move the current Thursday 14:00 UTC time to 15:00 UTC
  • Move the date to Tuesday at 21:00 UTC (this option works well for the three who came to today’s meeting.)
  • Multiple meetings, to account for both sides of the world. This option would likely require a push of the currently scheduled meeting to 15:00 or 16:00 UTC as well as an agreed time and date for the second meeting. @joemcgill suggested that multiple meetings not be forced to cover the same agenda items. Some items will overlap where it makes sense, but, for example, if one meeting has cleared the ticket queue, it would be pointless for the next meeting to consist largely of a triage.

New Media ticket triage

#48194 – Unregistered image sizes used for IMG tag “srcset”

As @joemcgill pointed out: “The problem here seems to be that someone has deleted image files that are still referenced in the database in attachment metadata. Regenerating image sizes ( wp media regenerate ) would fix this problem, but should we only use registered sizes in `srcset` attributes if there are other sizes available?”

#48321 – Hotswapping featured image with gallery images

It seems the ask is for (after creating gallery) the option to click on one of the gallery items and set as featured image of the associated post. It was agreed by attendees that this may not be best fit in the gallery block UI and perhaps would be better fit as an option within the media modal when creating galleries, images, etc.

The group changed the ticket to ask for reporter feedback.

@karmatosed made another point. The “Uploaded to this post” filter, in the Set Featured Image modal, does give the reporter part of what they’re asking for.

#48325 – Additional filter in media-template.php. Let developers hide attachment page link.

@joemcgill pointed us to the code that creates the attachment link: https://github.com/WordPress/WordPress/blob/master/wp-includes/media-template.php#L511 and said, “At minimum, I think that template should check that data.link is actually a URL before displaying [it]. [Developers] could filter the data that is used by this template.”

WordPress 5.4 Media Focuses

While it didn’t come up in the meeting, notes are a great place for all of us to develop ideas for Media focuses in 5.4.

If you have any media-related focuses you’d like to work on in the 5.4 cycle, and that you’re ready to work on, please leave a comment.

That helps the Media maintainers gather and prioritize the work. Plus, it would be great if you’d come to next week’s chat so we can all discuss your idea!

#core, #core-accessibility, #core-media, #media, #summary

Dev Chat Agenda for January 8, 2020

Here is the agenda for the weekly meeting happening later today: Wednesday, January 8, 2020, at 09:00 PM UTC.

Announcements

Upcoming Release – 5.4

Highlighted Blog Posts

Components Check-in

Open Floor


If you have anything to propose for the agenda or specific items related to those listed above, please leave a comment below.

This meeting is held in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#agenda, #core, #devchat

Call for volunteers: Release Model Working Group

The topic of the release cadence has been brought up multiple times over the past year:

  1. The original post about Major and Minor Version Release Cadence – February 27, 2019
  2. Recap of Devchat after the hour: November 20 – November 20, 2019
  3. Tentative Release Calendar 2020-2021 – November 21, 2019

There seems to be a strong will to increase the number of releases per year and some exploratory work has been already done by multiple sources. Now it’s time to put it all together and move forward with a plan of action.

What problem needs to be solved

WordPress releases involve quite a lot of manual labor and testing so the releases right now can’t be more than 3, 4 per year. Core contributors are eager to move to a more frequent cadence.

Scope of the Working Group

To evaluate what is needed to change the Core release model in terms of procedures, cadence, resources and produce a report that will:

  1. Document the existing release process
  2. Evaluate the technical changes needed to speed up the release process
  3. Evaluate if those changes are doable with the existing resources and tools

What has been done so far

A few people have already done some research and told their experience during dev chats or in the above-mentioned posts, including in the comments.

In particular, some blockers have been identified and the working group aims to document all of them and find reasonable and feasible solutions. Here is a nonexhaustive list of things that have been mentioned:

  • scoping the release
  • putting together a release team
  • the process itself: automated, semi-automated, manual tasks
  • supporting fewer PHP versions
  • supporting fewer WP versions (for security and other things)
  • better E2E tests and vuln tests
  • Tide support
  • writing the announcements
  • writing the dev notes
  • writing the field guide

Prerequisites

The team needs people with different skills and levels of expertise

  • A project manager/coordinator to make sure work gets done
  • People with commit and mission control experience to document the process of the release itself
  • People able to write E2E and vuln tests
  • People that worked in previous released and are familiar with the coordination part: from scope to release.
  • Historians! People that have been contributing for a while and are able to provide some background and context.
  • Anyone who is willing to help 🙂

Time commitment and frame

Between 2 and 3 hours a week, more if you want to!

By the end of 5.4 release the group should produce:

  1. A research of the various steps of the release
  2. An evaluation of the technical changes needed
  3. A draft of the feasible proposed changes

Communication and project management

I propose the group meets weekly in #Core and adopts a project management tool for the research phase – Trello would be my suggestion. Once it moves to build solutions (hopefully!) Trac or GitHub can be used.

Who is in?

Please drop your name, WordPress.org and Slack username in the comments if you are interested and how you think you can help.

Deadline: January 5. Hopefully, work will start on January 7th or 8th

Media Meeting Recap – December 19, 2019

The following is a summary of the weekly media component meeting that occurred on Thursday, December 19, 2019. Weekly media meetings are held every Thursday at 14:00 UTC. A full transcript can be found here in the #core-media room in the Make WordPress Slack.

Attendees: @joemcgill, @mikeschroder, @antpb, @flixos90, @karmatosed

Upcoming Meeting Schedule

Due to the holidays, we are postponing weekly meetings until Thursday, January 9.

Additionally, we are planning to adjust the meeting time in the new year to allow for better attendance from people working on priority tickets during the 5.4 cycle. @joemcgill will be reaching out to component maintainers to gather preferred times and will post an updated schedule before January 9.

WordPress 5.4 Media Focuses

As planning for WordPress version 5.4 is beginning, @francina has reached out to component maintainers to see if there are any major plans for this release. Here are the items currently being discussed:

  • #44427: Introduce lazy-loading API for media and other elements@flixos90 is leading this effort and will be looking for feedback.
  • @azaozz plans on working on more meaningful error messages when uploads fail (possibly in cooperation with Site Health).
  • @azaozz also plans to look into deprecating some of the “notoriously misused” image related functions, like constrain_size_for_editor().
  • Several other regular contributors are still working out how much time they’ll have to contribute in the new year and what their focuses will be.

If anyone has any additional media-related focuses they plan to work on during the 5.4 cycle, please leave a comment below so we can gather and prioritize work in the new year.

Hope to see you all in 2020 🎊

#core, #core-accessibility, #core-media, #media, #summary

Dev Chat Agenda for December 18, 2019

Here is the agenda for the weekly meeting happening later today: Wednesday, December 18, 2019, at 09:00 PM UTC.

Announcements

Upcoming Releases

Components Check-in

Open Floor


If you have anything to propose for the agenda or specific items related to those listed above, please leave a comment below.

This meeting is held in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#agenda, #core, #devchat

Dev Chat Agenda for December 11, 2019

Here is the agenda for the weekly meeting happening later today: Wednesday, December 11, 2019, at 09:00 PM UTC.

Announcements

Upcoming Releases

Highlighted Blog Posts

Blog Posts Needing Review/Feedback/Help

Components Check-in

Open Floor


If you have anything to propose for the agenda or specific items related to those listed above, please leave a comment below.

This meeting is held in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#agenda, #core, #devchat

Dev Chat Agenda for December 4, 2019

Here is the agenda for the weekly meeting happening later today: Wednesday, December 4, 2019, at 09:00 PM UTC.

Announcements

Upcoming Releases

Highlighted Blog Posts

Blog Posts Needing Review/Feedback/Help

Components Check-in

Open Floor


If you have anything to propose for the agenda or specific items related to those listed above, please leave a comment below.

This meeting is held in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#agenda, #core, #devchat

Dev Chat Agenda for November 27, 2019

Here is the agenda for the weekly meeting happening later today: Wednesday, November 27, 2019, at 09:00 PM UTC.

Agenda

If you have anything to propose for the agenda or specific items related to those listed above, please leave a comment below.

This meeting is held in the #core channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#agenda, #core, #devchat

Media Meeting Recap – November 14, 2019

The following is a summary of the weekly media component meeting that occurred on Thursday, November 14, 2019. Weekly media meetings are held every Thursday at 14:00 UTC. A full transcript can be found here in the #core-media room in the Make WordPress Slack.

Attendees: @sergeybiryukov , @pbiron, @spacedmonkey, @afercia, @dinhtungdu, @azaozz

Post 5.3 Triage

There were a few issues that came to light after folks updated to the 5.3 release.

Issues discussed:

  • #48632 : Cannot upload images directly from blogpost – Meeting participants attempted to replicate but were unable. Related issues were #48620 and #48604 in which one of the issues were due to a plugin.

That’s all that was reported as of meeting time last week! Thank you to everyone that contributed to WordPress 5.3! It really is a great update.

Meeting Scheduling Discussion

As you may have noticed, the time for the meeting was adjusted for Daylight Savings Time and moved later by one hour. There was some discussion in the meeting around adding a second meeting to the week allowing folks from both sides of the planet to participate. If you are in the AMEA region, please leave your thoughts on when the day and time of the week that works best. This topic will be revisited in the next meeting on Thursday, November 21, at 14:00 UTC

It was also mentioned that in this new scheduling model, it would be desired to move the currently scheduled meeting later one hour. This is of course only if there is another AMEA friendly meeting scheduled.

New Issues Triage

The meeting transitioned to a bug scrub after discussion about scheduling.

  • #48562 : Audio keeps playing on closing of media/attachment details popup in WP Admin – This was reproducible via the Media Library page in grid view. This issue has been around since 5.2 also so this is not a regression. Work is happening in the ticket to fix it up. The remainder of the meeting was filled with bunnies and discussion around a fix for the issue.

Feedback

If you have any feedback on the above, please feel free to leave a comment, join in #core-media for a chat, or attend the next meeting on November 21, 2019 at 14:00UTC!

#core, #core-accessibility, #core-media, #media, #summary