Performance team meeting summary 21 June 2022

Meeting agenda here and the full chat log is available beginning here on Slack.

Announcements

Focus group updates

Images

@adamsilverstein @mikeschroder

GitHub project

  • @adamsilverstein: Reviewing the hosting survey results and WebP-related research and drafting a follow-up post about next steps on WebP to be shared soon. Also following up with the WebP team to better understand the quality data that we are seeing in our research in Optimize compression levels for WebP, test file sizes vs. JPEGs #7.
  • @eugenemanuilov: Addressed code review feedback for the fallback images POC; if anyone can test on their end using old browsers that don’t support WebP, that would be much appreciated
  • @mukesh27: Awaiting feedback from @flixos90 on Discard WebP image if it is larger than corresponding JPEG image #372
  • @joegrainger: Been working on some documents that are nearing completion for modifying WordPress coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. image functions to support multiple mime types and introducing bulk regenerate image sizes functionality into WordPress core
  • @mehulkaklotar: Working on a proposal for API to facilitate more accurate “sizes” attribute #140
  • @spacedmonkey: Dominant color functionality will go out in 1.2.0 today. XWP team is already thinking about making a core patchpatch A special text file that describes changes to code, by identifying the files and lines which are added, removed, and altered. It may also be referred to as a diff. A patch can be applied to a codebase for testing. and improving the functionality. Some improvements are in this PR.
    • @flixos90: Would be great to start with a feature proposal on Make to get additional feedback ASAP from a wider audience. Now is a great time as people will be able to test with the pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party.

Feedback requested

Object Cache

@tillkruess @spacedmonkey

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Site Health

N/A

GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or pingPing The act of sending a very small amount of data to an end point. Ping is used in computer science to illicit a response from a target server to test it’s connection. Ping is also a term used by Slack users to @ someone or send them a direct message (DM). Users might say something along the lines of “Ping me when the meeting starts.” in Slack
  • @shetheliving: Added new autoloaded options section to the Optimization doc and will create a PR to link to it in the autoloaded options Site Health report when ready. Also attended documentation trainings last week and now have edit access for docs, so feel free to loopLoop The Loop is PHP code used by WordPress to display posts. Using The Loop, WordPress processes each post to be displayed on the current page, and formats it according to how it matches specified criteria within The Loop tags. Any HTML or PHP code in the Loop will be processed on each post. https://codex.wordpress.org/The_Loop. me in if you need help there.
  • @mukesh27: PR #380 is ready to merge; @spacedmonkey merged

Feedback requested

Measurement

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GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or ping in Slack
  • @flixos90: Working on a blogblog (versus network, site) post for Make about the plugin checker proposal; should be ready to post early next week

Feedback requested

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@aristath @sergiomdgomes

GitHub project

  • No updates

Feedback requested

Infrastructure

@flixos90

GitHub project

Feedback requested

6.1 release plans

  • @furi3r: Are we thinking of porting some of the modules to core for 6.1, specifically Site Health?
    • @furi3r: Full page cache is not experimental, but fairly new. Autoloaded Options could be a good candidate if we can get the documentation updated.
    • @spacedmonkey: Would love to see Autoloaded Options in 6.1
    • @flixos90: We can get Object Cache and Full Page Cache in 6.1 if we move them forward, but the other two are more of a stretch. Reminder to review the lifecycle of a performance module doc if you haven’t already.
    • @spacedmonkey: Should we create TracTrac An open source project by Edgewall Software that serves as a bug tracker and project management tool for WordPress. tickets for each of the Site Health modules?
      • @flixos90: That would be good, but main thing is feature proposals
      • @spacedmonkey: Do these even need feature proposals, as additions to an existing feature?
      • @flixos90: Depends on how you frame it. I think they’re large enough to justify feature proposals. Mostly critical to get more feedback around the heuristics being used to determine if a check is “passed” or not.
      • @spacedmonkey: Since they’re small, maybe multiple in one post?
      • @flixos90: For related ones, maybe. Some are larger, e.g. Object Cache and Full Page Cache, and should be their own posts.
      • @spacedmonkey: What about the WebP check? Is that part of the WebP core merge?
      • @flixos90: It’s a bit decoupled, but should go in with the WebP feature if not sooner.
    • @flixos90: Who here can work on getting some of the other Site Health modules and/or dominant color merged into core?
    • @shetheliving: Tentatively aim to include Autoloaded Options check in 6.2 pending docs

Open floor

Help wanted

#core-js, #core-media, #performance, #performance-chat, #summary

#hosting-community, #tide

Performance team meeting summary 14 June 2022

Meeting agenda here and the full chat log is available beginning here on Slack.

Announcements

  • @flixos90: Formal team proposal
    • Given our successes so far (5K+ pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party installs, lots of great feedback at WCEU, etc.) now is a good time to formally propose our initiative as a proper Performance Team
    • This would get us our own site on make.wordpress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/ and an entry on the top-level site
    • Feel free to ask any questions or share your thoughts on this plan in the comments
    • @spacedmonkey: Does that mean there will be “official” team members and leads?
    • @flixos90: We’ll have to see; not sure if that’s a requirement for a formal team
    • @tweetythierry: We currently have the GitHub members list, which we may use as a source of truth
  • @shetheliving: Our next release, 1.2.0, is scheduled for next Monday 20 June, which is a US holiday, so we think it would be best to move to Tuesday 21 June and have the release party in the #performance channel on June 21, 2022 at 1pm EDT
    • Asked for a thumbs up vote to approve this shift; received 8 thumbs ups so release will be moved

Focus group updates

Images

@adamsilverstein @mikeschroder

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Object Cache

@tillkruess @spacedmonkey

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Site Health

N/A

GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or pingPing The act of sending a very small amount of data to an end point. Ping is used in computer science to illicit a response from a target server to test it’s connection. Ping is also a term used by Slack users to @ someone or send them a direct message (DM). Users might say something along the lines of “Ping me when the meeting starts.” in SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/.

Feedback requested

Measurement

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GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or ping in Slack
  • @flixos90: Update on plugin checker proposal
    • Most important decision to make soon is which approach to follow for this project
    • Things to consider:
      • Focusing on static analysis only is probably a no go, as so many aspects of performance can only be detected at runtime.
      • Server-side analysis is a solid approach as it allows for runtime checks, and we could still easily include static analysis as part of that approach.
      • Client-side analysis certainly gives the most flexibility to also include e.g. browser optimization related checks, but it also requires either a public site to be spun up or a headless browser setup, which can be tricky to have on certain environments.
    • See this as building with two potential use cases in mind:
      • For plugin developers to integrate with their own development workflows, e.g. in a GitHubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/ action
      • For the wordpress.org plugin repository to run it on plugin submission (potentially in some reduced capacity, i.e. only a subset of all checks that they consider most valuable)
    • @spacedmonkey: Wonder if we can use my ideas from a plugin like Query Monitor, like detecting duplicate queries, slowing running queries, or query counting. For example, WooCommerce adds over 100 queries to page load.
      • @flixos90: Discovering things like that would definitely be helpful and Query Monitor is a useful tool that we reuse parts from
    • @mitogh: Do we have an idea of which metrics would be considered baseline to “pass”?
      • @flixos90: Would be less of a general “pass” vs. “fail,” but more a ton of individual checks that can pass, create an error, or create a warning, like PHPCodeSniffer
    • @flixos90: One project that we should probably research more is the latest automated theme testing tool mentioned here. Current take is that we should primarily focus on a server-side approach that’s built with client-side extensibility in mind.
    • @johnbillion: I’ve considered splitting some parts of Query Monitor into Composer packages but don’t have capacity right now, happy to assist though where necessary
    • @flixos90: One more step that @mikeschroder pointed out is that we should share this proposal with a wider audience, including the plugin review team; will share shortly and also plan to publish a post on Make

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@aristath @sergiomdgomes

GitHub project

  • No updates

Feedback requested

Infrastructure

@flixos90

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Open floor

Help wanted

#core-js, #core-media, #performance, #performance-chat, #summary

#hosting-community, #tide

Performance team meeting summary 7 June2022

Meeting agenda here and the full chat log is available beginning here on Slack.

Announcements

@shetheliving

  • Huge thank you to everyone who participated in any way in our work at WCEU! Feedback was extremely positive and we have lots of new people who are interested in contributing
  • Our weekly chat is held in the #performance channel on Tuesdays at 15:00 UTC and our GitHub repo is here; feel free to take a look at open issues and add new issues
  • You can watch @flixos90‘s talk from WCEU here

Focus group updates

Images

@adamsilverstein @mikeschroder

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Object Cache

@tillkruess @spacedmonkey

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Site Health

N/A

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Measurement

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GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or ping in Slack
  • No updates

Feedback requested

JavaScriptJavaScript JavaScript or JS is an object-oriented computer programming language commonly used to create interactive effects within web browsers. WordPress makes extensive use of JS for a better user experience. While PHP is executed on the server, JS executes within a user’s browser. https://www.javascript.com/.

@aristath @sergiomdgomes

GitHub project

  • @aristath (async): Working on ways to apply some tree-shaking to blockBlock Block is the abstract term used to describe units of markup that, composed together, form the content or layout of a webpage using the WordPress editor. The idea combines concepts of what in the past may have achieved with shortcodes, custom HTML, and embed discovery into a single consistent API and user experience. styles. Created a proof of concept in Tree-shaking block styles on the frontend #41020 and would appreciate feedback. Also working on an alternative method which would not require APIAPI An API or Application Programming Interface is a software intermediary that allows programs to interact with each other and share data in limited, clearly defined ways. changes to block.json, but worried about server-side performance. Current implementation in the POC is far from perfect but enough to be a good conversation starter to move this forward.

Feedback requested

Infrastructure

@flixos90

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Open floor

  • @clarkeemily: Working on collating photos and stories from WCEU and will share with the wider group soon

Help wanted

#core-js, #core-media, #performance, #performance-chat, #summary

#hosting-community

Performance team meeting summary 24 May 2022

Meeting agenda here and the full chat log is available beginning here on Slack.

Announcements

@shetheliving

  • Reminder: No meeting next week, 31 May, as many folks will be traveling/prepping to travel to WCEU
  • We’ll be well-represented at WCEU with three talks and a large section of the WP community booth; see this doc for details and info on contributing
  • Bethany will be offline 1-15 June and @clarkeemily will run the 6 and 13 June meetings

Focus group updates

Images

@adamsilverstein @mikeschroder

GitHub project

  • @adamsilverstein: Finishing up some WebP issues, primarily around handling edit and restore actions correctly. Several multi-mime type/WebP features in the pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party were not in the coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. patchpatch A special text file that describes changes to code, by identifying the files and lines which are added, removed, and altered. It may also be referred to as a diff. A patch can be applied to a codebase for testing. yet, so working on follow-up core patches to add them. For example, this patch adds the ability to always use the smaller image size for image references. Also did some research this week on a polyfill to enable WebP support for older browsers and developed a script to use a capability check before dynamically loading the library to add support. We also have sent out a survey to hosting providers about image storage to get more data about the impact of WebP on storage.
  • @pbearne @spacedmonkey: Add low quality image placeholders #19 should be ready to merge (example)
    • @adamsilverstein will take another look and @shetheliving will make sure @flixos90 does when he’s back online
    • @adamsilverstein: Since this is a proposed core patch, is there already a matching TracTrac An open source project by Edgewall Software that serves as a bug tracker and project management tool for WordPress. ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker.?
    • @pbearne @spacedmonkey: No; that is a wider conversation about porting over functionality to core and when/how this should happen (and how/if we remove it from the plugin)
    • @shetheliving: We’ll add this to the 6 June meeting agenda cc @clarkeemily

Feedback requested

Object Cache

@tillkruess @spacedmonkey

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Site Health

N/A

GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or pingPing The act of sending a very small amount of data to an end point. Ping is used in computer science to illicit a response from a target server to test it’s connection. Ping is also a term used by Slack users to @ someone or send them a direct message (DM). Users might say something along the lines of “Ping me when the meeting starts.” in SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/.
  • @furi3r: Add Site Health test for full page caching (advanced cache) #220 was moved to 1.2.0 is just about ready and waiting for testing. Need to determine how/if we want to port any existing Site Health modules to core.

Feedback requested

Measurement

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GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or ping in Slack
  • No updates

Feedback requested

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@aristath @sergiomdgomes

GitHub project

  • No updates

Feedback requested

Infrastructure

@flixos90

GitHub project

  • @flixos90 offline
  • @shetheliving: If you haven’t already, review the module proposal workflow and leave any feedback on the PR. Next step would be to merge this and create a new GH issue template for module proposals.
  • @shetheliving: Reminder that next release will be 1.2.0 on Monday, June 20, so we should target merge for anything for that release by about June 15.

Feedback requested

Open floor

  • @spacedmonkey: Is there anything we want to specifically focus on for 6.1?
    • @olliejones: Maybe more/better large-site performance increases? WHERE wp_usermeta.meta_key = 'wp_capabilities' AND meta_value LIKE '%editor%' is the performance botch; ticket here. Probably needs another because this one mentions GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content, making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/, but problem also exists in Users, Posts, and Pages.
    • @clorith: Query improvements for 6.0 were nice and don’t look large, but it all adds up quickly, so would love to see more of a review of queries and how they can be improved. May be some old ones from years back where smarter queries now exist.
    • @spacedmonkey: Would focus on SQL_CALC_FOUND_ROWS is deprecated as of MySQL 8.0.17 #47280
    • @pbearne: Have been digging into the rest and FSE queries are seeing a lot of low-hanging fruit that could be improved

Help wanted

#core-js, #core-media, #performance, #performance-chat, #summary

#hosting-community

Performance team meeting summary 17 May 2022

Meeting agenda here and the full chat log is available beginning here on Slack.

Announcements

Focus group updates

Images

@adamsilverstein @mikeschroder

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Object Cache

@tillkruess @spacedmonkey

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Site Health

N/A

GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or pingPing The act of sending a very small amount of data to an end point. Ping is used in computer science to illicit a response from a target server to test it’s connection. Ping is also a term used by Slack users to @ someone or send them a direct message (DM). Users might say something along the lines of “Ping me when the meeting starts.” in SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/.
  • @furi3r: Add Site Health test for full page caching (advanced cache) #220 was moved to 1.2.0 is just about ready and waiting for testing

Feedback requested

Measurement

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GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or ping in Slack
  • No updates

Feedback requested

JavaScriptJavaScript JavaScript or JS is an object-oriented computer programming language commonly used to create interactive effects within web browsers. WordPress makes extensive use of JS for a better user experience. While PHP is executed on the server, JS executes within a user’s browser. https://www.javascript.com/.

@aristath @sergiomdgomes

GitHub project

  • No updates

Feedback requested

Infrastructure

@flixos90

GitHub project

  • @shetheliving: Review the module proposal workflow and leave any feedback on the PR
    • @flixos90: We’ve been working on this to have a long-term plan for each module; want to avoid a module going into the plugin and growing stale without any iterations or next steps
    • @jeffpaul: I’ll review with an eye from the core perspective
    • @flixos90: Another benefit of this documentation is that it includes a high-level overview of how to propose a feature project for core, which isn’t really documented right now; this could be a good starting point for the future
  • @olliejones: Might be cool to have a stub performance-lab module for modification by would-be contributors
    • @flixos90: That’s a great idea, though there would be little to start with since a module can be pretty much anything. The best place to start right now is with the writing a module doc, though that’s more about the technical starting point and the new proposal doc is more about overall workflow.
  • @flixos90: Released v1.1.0 yesterday. Next release will be 1.2.0 on Monday, June 20, so we should target merge for anything for that release by about June 15.

Feedback requested

Open floor

  • @olliejones: Following up on the large site/many users work: https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/55749
    • Have a new plugin to address the issues outlined there
    • Might be a candidate for a Performance Lab module
    • These issues are mostly fixable with filters and actions, but not completely
    • @adamsilverstein: Looks like a core side issue; the TracTrac An open source project by Edgewall Software that serves as a bug tracker and project management tool for WordPress. ticketticket Created for both bug reports and feature development on the bug tracker. describes hte issue better. Is the issue specific to the REST endpoint or more generally about how the user query is constructed?
    • @olliejones: It’s actually central to WP_User_Query and WP_Meta_Query, but at the same time the REST endpoint’s set of parameters doesn’t allow for avoiding the query-pagination overhead

Help wanted

#core-js, #core-media, #performance, #performance-chat, #summary

Performance team meeting summary 10 May 2022

Meeting agenda here and the full chat log is available beginning here on Slack.

Focus group updates

Images

@adamsilverstein @mikeschroder

GitHub project

  • @adamsilverstein: Refreshed the coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. WebP patchpatch A special text file that describes changes to code, by identifying the files and lines which are added, removed, and altered. It may also be referred to as a diff. A patch can be applied to a codebase for testing. against trunktrunk A directory in Subversion containing the latest development code in preparation for the next major release cycle. If you are running "trunk", then you are on the latest revision. and started separate follow-up PRs for new featured added to the pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party since then.
  • @shetheliving: Getting pretty close to wrapping up initial proposals for API to facilitate more accurate sizes #140 and Regenerate existing images #24; next steps will be more detailed design docs and core feature proposals. Research continues on Research: Impact of additional WebP images on upload #289 and Research: WebP compatibility #290 and we’ll draft a follow-up post about our findings and next steps.
  • @adamsilverstein: For Research: Impact of additional WebP images on upload #289, working on a survey for hosting providers to gather some field data about file count and size limitations
  • @eugenemanuilov: If there’s someone who has Outlook and Windows, please test if WebP is supported for Research: WebP compatibility #290
    • @codekraft: Looks like it’s supported in the most recent version
  • @adamsilverstein: Found this summary of WebP support in OG tags; looks like sites should stick with JPEG for OG tags

Feedback requested

Object Cache

@tillkruess @spacedmonkey

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Site Health

N/A

GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or pingPing The act of sending a very small amount of data to an end point. Ping is used in computer science to illicit a response from a target server to test it’s connection. Ping is also a term used by Slack users to @ someone or send them a direct message (DM). Users might say something along the lines of “Ping me when the meeting starts.” in SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/.
  • @furi3r: Add Site Health test for full page caching (advanced cache) #220 is almost ready to be merged

Feedback requested

Measurement

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GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or ping in Slack
  • No updates

Feedback requested

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@aristath @sergiomdgomes

GitHub project

  • No updates

Feedback requested

Infrastructure

@flixos90

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Open floor

Help wanted

#core-js, #core-media, #performance, #performance-chat, #summary

Performance team meeting summary 3 May 2022

Meeting agenda here and the full chat log is available beginning here on Slack.

Focus group updates

Images

@adamsilverstein @mikeschroder

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Object Cache

@tillkruess @spacedmonkey

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Site Health

N/A

GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or pingPing The act of sending a very small amount of data to an end point. Ping is used in computer science to illicit a response from a target server to test it’s connection. Ping is also a term used by Slack users to @ someone or send them a direct message (DM). Users might say something along the lines of “Ping me when the meeting starts.” in SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/.
  • @furi3r: PR for Site Health test for full page caching is still open; would love another review to get into the next release@flixos90 will take another look
  • @flixos90: Is there any update on the work to refine the two existing experimental Site Health modules to make them non-experimental and eventually merge to coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress.?
    • @furi3r: We should go over them again and take another look
  • @spacedmonkey: Should we use next week’s meeting to decide what we want to get merged into 6.1
    • @flixos90: Great idea, as well as looking owners for whatever we decide on

Feedback requested

Measurement

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GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or ping in Slack
  • No updates

Feedback requested

JavaScriptJavaScript JavaScript or JS is an object-oriented computer programming language commonly used to create interactive effects within web browsers. WordPress makes extensive use of JS for a better user experience. While PHP is executed on the server, JS executes within a user’s browser. https://www.javascript.com/.

@aristath @sergiomdgomes

GitHub project

  • No updates

Feedback requested

Infrastructure

@flixos90

GitHub project

  • @flixos90: Decision has been made to follow WP core’s versioning approach for our pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party based on the vote in Define plugin versioning approach #300, so next release will be 1.1.0.
  • @flixos90: The other decision we need to make is about release cadence in Define plugin release cadence #320.
    • Before 1.0.0, we published every two weeks, which is the minimum but requires some additional maintenance and overhead, so a timeline of four weeks or more is probably better. At the same time, we don’t want to go too long and lose momentum.
    • @adamsilverstein: Monthly feels straightforward to keep track of; longer gets more difficult
    • @pbearne: A 4 week cycle feels right to me
    • @eugenemanuliov: Yes, 4 weeks seems to be most appropriate
    • @jeffpaul: 10up open sourceOpen Source Open Source denotes software for which the original source code is made freely available and may be redistributed and modified. Open Source **must be** delivered via a licensing model, see GPL. team checks what’s releasable on the first day of the month and determines if it requires a major, minor, or no release. If there’s a release, it’s done in a subsequent week that month.
    • @flixos90: Could also do monthly, e.g. third Monday of the month. Will add to the options in the issue.
    • Vote is open here until next Monday

Feedback requested

Open floor

  • @jb510: Research: Impact of additional WebP images on upload #289 focuses on the file system impact of WebP. But when an image is uploaded to a post, there is the time it takes the original to upload, but then the user has to wait while additional image sizes are generated and the progress bar for that action completes. We should then consider the impact of WebP generation has on that already sometimes frustrating delay between generating JPEG only vs JPEG+WebP. Want to make sure this is being considered. I recommend moving this to the background.
    • @jeffpaul: Agreed, that UXUX User experience is quite painful
    • @adamsilverstein: Moving to the background would make sense, as that image generation is slow and can break if you navigate away from the editor. Related Gutenberg issue.
    • @adamsilverstein: Note that the progress bar only shows upload progress, not processing progress
    • @pbearne: Once WP has the image, we should be able to release the editor and do the processing in a new thread
    • @jb510: For scope, consider 1) measuring impact of additional processing/completion time due to WebP and 2) finding a way to move that out of blocking the user from continuing with what they wanted to be doing

Help wanted

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Performance team meeting summary 26 April 2022

Meeting agenda here and the full chat log is available beginning here on Slack.

Focus group updates

Images

@adamsilverstein @mikeschroder

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Object Cache

@tillkruess @spacedmonkey

GitHub project

  • @spacedmonkey: Working on profiling the REST APIREST API The REST API is an acronym for the RESTful Application Program Interface (API) that uses HTTP requests to GET, PUT, POST and DELETE data. It is how the front end of an application (think “phone app” or “website”) can communicate with the data store (think “database” or “file system”) https://developer.wordpress.org/rest-api/.; found some performance issues and created tickets:
  • @spacedmonkey: Also have a follow-up PR that needs a review before RC1. Working on dev notesdev note Each important change in WordPress Core is documented in a developers note, (usually called dev note). Good dev notes generally include: a description of the change; the decision that led to this change a description of how developers are supposed to work with that change. Dev notes are published on Make/Core blog during the beta phase of WordPress release cycle. Publishing dev notes is particularly important when plugin/theme authors and WordPress developers need to be aware of those changes.In general, all dev notes are compiled into a Field Guide at the beginning of the release candidate phase. for terms query changes for 6.0.

Feedback requested

Site Health

N/A

GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or pingPing The act of sending a very small amount of data to an end point. Ping is used in computer science to illicit a response from a target server to test it’s connection. Ping is also a term used by Slack users to @ someone or send them a direct message (DM). Users might say something along the lines of “Ping me when the meeting starts.” in SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/.
  • No updates

Feedback requested

Measurement

N/A

GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or ping in Slack
  • No updates

Feedback requested

JavaScriptJavaScript JavaScript or JS is an object-oriented computer programming language commonly used to create interactive effects within web browsers. WordPress makes extensive use of JS for a better user experience. While PHP is executed on the server, JS executes within a user’s browser. https://www.javascript.com/.

@aristath @sergiomdgomes

GitHub project

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Infrastructure

@flixos90

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Open floor

Help wanted

#core-js, #core-media, #performance, #performance-chat, #summary

Performance team meeting summary 19 April 2022

Meeting agenda here and the full chat log is available beginning here on Slack.

Focus group updates

Announcements

@shetheliving

Images

@adamsilverstein @mikeschroder

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Object Cache

@tillkruess @spacedmonkey

GitHub project

  • @spacedmonkey: Starting to think about dev notes for all the changes to date in core
  • @tillkruess: Working with @pbearne on the flush group PR based on feedback
  • @jeffpaul: Might be better to have a single dev notedev note Each important change in WordPress Core is documented in a developers note, (usually called dev note). Good dev notes generally include: a description of the change; the decision that led to this change a description of how developers are supposed to work with that change. Dev notes are published on Make/Core blog during the beta phase of WordPress release cycle. Publishing dev notes is particularly important when plugin/theme authors and WordPress developers need to be aware of those changes.In general, all dev notes are compiled into a Field Guide at the beginning of the release candidate phase. for Object Cache that includes al the various changes, based on previous feedback

Feedback requested

Site Health

N/A

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Measurement

N/A

GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or ping in Slack
  • No updates

Feedback requested

JavaScriptJavaScript JavaScript or JS is an object-oriented computer programming language commonly used to create interactive effects within web browsers. WordPress makes extensive use of JS for a better user experience. While PHP is executed on the server, JS executes within a user’s browser. https://www.javascript.com/.

@aristath @sergiomdgomes

GitHub project

  • No updates

Feedback requested

Infrastructure

@flixos90

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Open floor

  • Performance team at WCEU
  • @codekraft: Did some research on lossy formats. This website contains a script to compare images and there’s something interesting about the quality of converted images. In particular on this page there is the comparison of images converted using a JPG (-q 80%) using as reference the original PNG. The issue is called generation loss.
    • @adamsilverstein Seems like a great way to compare image formats. I see you’ve included both MozJPEG and pjpeg – is pjpeg the classic JPEG compressor?
    • @codekraft: pjpeg is progressive JPEG, the new addition is JXL (JPG XL)
    • @adamsilverstein: File size savings for JPEGXL are impressive; didn’t realize there was a library for compressing it yet

Help wanted

#core-js, #core-media, #performance, #performance-chat, #summary

Performance team meeting summary 12 April 2022

Meeting agenda here and the full chat log is available beginning here on Slack.

Focus group updates

Announcements

@shetheliving

Images

@adamsilverstein @mikeschroder

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Object Cache

@tillkruess @spacedmonkey

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Site Health

N/A

GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or pingPing The act of sending a very small amount of data to an end point. Ping is used in computer science to illicit a response from a target server to test it’s connection. Ping is also a term used by Slack users to @ someone or send them a direct message (DM). Users might say something along the lines of “Ping me when the meeting starts.” in Slack
  • @furi3r: Looking for feedback on PR for Add Site Health test for full page caching (advanced cache) #220
  • @furi3r: Not directly related to Site Health, but also working on adding preload support to coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. in Add support for preload links (similar to resource hints) #42438; there’s a related issue for Performance Lab: Preload resources #31. Looking for review.

Feedback requested

Measurement

@wp-source @josephscott

GitHub project

  • No updates

Feedback requested

JavaScriptJavaScript JavaScript or JS is an object-oriented computer programming language commonly used to create interactive effects within web browsers. WordPress makes extensive use of JS for a better user experience. While PHP is executed on the server, JS executes within a user’s browser. https://www.javascript.com/.

@aristath @sergiomdgomes

GitHub project

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Feedback requested

Infrastructure

@flixos90

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Open floor

  • @mitogh: We have a lot of issues labeled as Needs Discussion that haven’t been moving. What can we do to move those forward and prevent a big backlog? Recommend using a priority base system on labels similar to the ones used on issues and use this time to discuss next steps or if issues should be closed because they’re not relevant at this time.
  • @khoipro: Do we have concerns about mobile vs. desktop caching?
    • @mitogh: Full HTMLHTML HyperText Markup Language. The semantic scripting language primarily used for outputting content in web browsers. caching or something else?
    • @khoipro: Object caching. I’m using Total Cache and it lost a deal with different breakpoints if using PHPPHP The web scripting language in which WordPress is primarily architected. WordPress requires PHP 5.6.20 or higher to test a device agent, but Swift Performance supports it.
    • @mitogh: The user agent can be used as part of the key for the cache in order to invalidate cache when a different agent is used. This issue seems related to how the pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party manages their keys.

Help wanted

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