Title: Hallway Hangout Summary:  &#8220;compare and contrast&#8221; the Navigation screens
Author: David Smith
Published: August 25, 2021

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 [  ](https://profiles.wordpress.org/get_dave/) [David Smith](https://profiles.wordpress.org/get_dave/)
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# Hallway Hangout Summary: “compare and contrast” the Navigation screens

This post summarises the Navigation screen Hallway Hangout held on [2021-08-24 09:00 UTC](https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20210824T0900)
in Zoom facilitated by [@get_dave](https://profiles.wordpress.org/get_dave/), [@talldanwp](https://profiles.wordpress.org/talldanwp/)
and [@javier](https://profiles.wordpress.org/javier/).

The blockBlock Block is the abstract term used to describe units of markup that,
composed together, form the content or layout of a webpage using the WordPress editor.
The idea combines concepts of what in the past may have achieved with shortcodes,
custom HTML, and embed discovery into a single consistent API and user experience.-
based Navigation editor screen has been behind an [“experimental” feature flag](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/blob/571588dc119725e708bd93cbb71b2a161b51a003/lib/init.php#L49-L60)
within the GutenbergGutenberg The Gutenberg project is the new Editor Interface 
for WordPress. The editor improves the process and experience of creating new content,
making writing rich content much simpler. It uses ‘blocks’ to add richness rather
than shortcodes, custom HTML etc. [https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/](https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/)
pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that
can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features
to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming
language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.
org Plugin Directory [https://wordpress.org/plugins/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/)
or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party. for some time. The purpose of the
call was to **outline the work required in order to remove the “experimental” status
from the screen** in order that the editor is **active by default in the Gutenberg
_plugin_**.

The team working on the feature feel this is valuable in order to increase the visibility
of the feature and therefore improve the quantity of feedback we receive.

## Meeting Recording

If you’d like to watch the full recording of the session you can do so below:

## Key points agreed

It was agreed that the prerequisite for removing “experimental” was: **_UIUI User
interface/UXUX User experience_ feature parity with the existing Navigation screen(`
nav-menus.php`) in CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress.
The Core Development Team builds WordPress..**

We also acknowledged that:

 * We wouldn’t commit to feature parity of _developer_ focused APIs at this stage.
 * Removing “experimental” in the Gutenberg _plugin_, would not automatically make
   the feature ready for merging into Core (that won’t happen until WordPress 5.9
   _at the earliest_).

## What was discussed?

The format of the hangout was an open discussion comparing and contrasting the classic
menu screen with the experimental block-based navigation screen.

To this end attendees were asked to test drive both screens and note down their 
findings prior to the call.

The meeting facilitators also prepared [a list of items](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UB6fMaPmQPGr-xf_R0-P3Mjef_Fhe7UJOBc0dir1GjA/edit#gid=0)
as discussion points which were worked through during the call.

Each item was demonstrated, discussed and then assigned a loose priority of High/
Medium/Low based on how critical the group felt the issue was to achieving feature
parity.

## Outcomes

The key outcomes of the call were:

 * A clearer understanding of the current project roadmap and the next steps required.
 * A [list of items where the block-based Navigation Editor does not have UI/UX feature parity with the existing Navigation screen](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UB6fMaPmQPGr-xf_R0-P3Mjef_Fhe7UJOBc0dir1GjA/edit#gid=0).
 * A rough hierarchy of task priorities from which to reprioritise [the Navigation Editor tracking issue](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/29102).

## Next Steps

Contributors working on the Nav Editor will now look to reorganise and reprioritse
the tracking issue around the problems identified during the call.

 * All items will be added to the tracking issue (with the possible exception of
   bugs).
 * The `High` priority section of the tracking issue will be reformed and refocused
   around the goal of “removing the experimental status from the Navigation Editor”.
   Only tasks _directly_ related to this goal will be considered for inclusion in
   the “High” priority section.
 * Tasks identified during the call that were marked as `Medium` or `High` till 
   be added to the aforementioned `High` priority section of the tracking issue.
 * Contributors will focus on tackling `High` priority tasks in order to realise
   the goal of removing the “experimental” status.

All contributors are encouraged to become involved in prioritisation. Everyone is
welcome and we’d very much value your feedback. If you feel a priority is wrong 
or missing then please let your fellow contributors know.

Thanks to everyone who attended the hangout and we look forward to moving the Navigation
Editor forward together.

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