Dev Chat Summary: May 29th, 2019


@chanthaboune announced that since 5.2 has been successfully released, work will be resuming on the Team Leadership training. A blog post on will be published for anyone wanting to help review the training materials or otherwise indicate they are interested in learning more about how leads lead in WordPress.

WordPress 5.2.2 Updates

5.2.2 co-lead @marybaum updated the agenda with the following proposed dates for bug scrubs and releases:

Bug Scrub: Wednesday, May 29, 2019, 14:00 UTC
Bug Scrub: Thursday, May 30, 2019, 18:00 UTC
Release Candidate 1: Monday, June 3, 2019, 19:00 UTC
Bug Scrub: Thursday, June 6, 2019, 20:00 UTC
Release Candidate 2: Monday, June 10, 2019, 16:00 UTC
Final Release: Thursday, June 13, 2019, 16:00 CDT

Special thanks to @desrosj, @karmatosed, and @audrasjb who led bug scrubs in the past week!

Finally, requesting release packagers be available for the scheduled RC1 release on Monday, June 3, 2019.

WordPress 5.3 Updates

Owners of tickets currently milestoned for 5.3 are encouraged to triage them appropriately. If, as a ticket owner, you are unable to volunteer any time to your tickets in this cycle, please unassign yourself. I’d much rather know for sure that I have spots to fill/tickets to move than let anyone feel unnecessary guilt.

A few components are still assessing potential features to focus on. Once those are settled and focus leads have volunteered, then a finalized timeline for the release can be set. A mid- to late-August timeframe was hoped for, but maintainers were clear that expected features/focuses should be decided upon before more firmly committing to a final timeline. There’s no official, rigid requirement of an August release of WordPress 5.3.

@spacedmonkey asked if any key features have been announced for 5.3. @chanthaboune indicated that nothing is solid yet, and more confidence from maintainers about features that can reasonably completed for 5.3 is needed.

@spacedmonkey also inquired about what Gutenberg features should be expected for 5.3. @aduth pointed to a previous #core-editor chat that laid out the expected goals for Gutenberg updates in 5.3.

One of the aforementioned goals was a navigation block in Gutenberg. @spacedmonkey asked whether the new block will use existing menus from WordPress core. This spawned some debate between contributors about how menu data should be stored and the various admin interfaces used to interact with them. No decisions were made, and continuing discussion is encouraged on the relevant tickets at and See the Slack conversation for more of the debate.

Updates from component maintainers

Tickets were to be discussed, but time ran short, so they are included here for some additional visibility.


General Announcements and Open Floor

@sergey asked to open a conversation around changing the invalid and worksforme ticket resolutions in Trac to something more neutral and less confusing for users. The suggested change is: invalidnot-applicable and worksformenot-reproducible. @chanthaboune suggested a Make post for that discussion to allow for a more in-depth discussion.

@desrosj raised a flag for the current, expected size of the upcoming 5.2.2 release. At the time of the chat, there were only 13 tickets in the milestone. Based on past precedent, the release seems to be a bit under the threshold of what usually warrants a minor release. No decision was made, and a make/core post will be created to prompt more discussion of the topic.

Finally, @xkon announced that #core-privacy code has been split into its own files, adhering more to the WordPress Coding Standards and helping with maintainability. Given the better code organization/separation of concerns, now’s a good time to get involved with #core-privacy.

Thanks to all the attendees and everyone else that contributes to WordPress! These notes were taken by @davidbaumwald and proofread by @chanthaboune.

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