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New IRCIRC Internet Relay Chat, a network where users can have conversations online. IRC channels are used widely by open source projects, and by WordPress. The primary WordPress channels are #wordpress and #wordpress-dev, on irc.freenode.net. policy suggestion. Whenever the folks at #wordpress send someone over into #wordpress-dev, we send them back, and one or more of us need to bite the bullet and jump back over there and see if we can help.

This has a few advantages. One, people who hover in #wordpress can learn, instead of always sending people our way. Two, we can keep the coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. development channel clean of chatter — including the logs, which some of us do try to read the scrollback for (I’ve stopped lately, but I used to always make sure I read the logs in full). Three, this then gets logged in the proper channel. Four, we also don’t raise expectations that #wordpress-dev is for general development. If we dip into #wordpress a bit more (I’m going to idle in it now, I think), we’ll have support questions in #wordpress-dev less, and it will increase our productivity.

I know sometimes we like to adopt odd questions and challenges that come into #wordpress-dev — I’m as bad as anyone on this. But after spending an hour (and others before me) and many dozens lines of logs, we discovered that a recent issue came down to a bad APC configuration setting. [last line edited for clarity]

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Alex M. 4:20 am on May 21, 2010

This wasn’t the standard thing to do already? 🙂
- Andrew Nacin 4:23 am on May 21, 2010
  
  Well, yes 🙂
dd32 9:21 am on May 21, 2010

I’m all for this, I dont idle in #wordpress due to the noise, But if someone comes to wordpress-dev or PM’s me/mentions it in #wordpress-dev, I’ll happily jump over to #wordpress to help someone out.
- bentrem 1:21 am on May 23, 2010
  
  I think what happens is that folk like you leave so even if something half-you,know reasonable comes up it either doesn’t get responded to or just degrades into noise. Backwaters become swamps.
  So what I’m thinking is that anything that get’s initially responded to in -dev and moved over into #wordpress has the effect of generating a bit of light. (I used to be on IRCIRC Internet Relay Chat, a network where users can have conversations online. IRC channels are used widely by open source projects, and by WordPress. The primary WordPress channels are #wordpress and #wordpress-dev, on irc.freenode.net. every day with another big project OMG a decade ago.)
  - bentrem 1:23 am on May 23, 2010
    
    By “moved over” I mean talked through, so stuff that isn’t -dev, strictly speaking ends up being dealt with while keeping the total payload there smaller and giving #wordpress a nudge in the right direction.
filosofo 11:03 am on May 21, 2010

I try to read all the logs, too, and it doesn’t seem like this is a frequent problem. Being a frequent problem is a necessary (though still not sufficient) condition for creating new policies.

Does your IRCIRC Internet Relay Chat, a network where users can have conversations online. IRC channels are used widely by open source projects, and by WordPress. The primary WordPress channels are #wordpress and #wordpress-dev, on irc.freenode.net. client use color-coded usernames? Mine (XChat) has that as an option, so it was very easy for me to skip over the remainder of this particular conversation once I got the gist.
Peter Westwood 7:24 am on May 22, 2010

This sounds like sound good practice to me.

I do idle in #wordpress but barely read it

I gave up trying to read the whole log of any channel a long time back!
hakre 10:29 pm on May 23, 2010

there should be no connections between those two channels but the user (as developer).

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