Share your feedback about the new WordPress Events Page!

As announced in December, we have a new centralized WordPress Events landing page in WordPress.org that aims to give more visibility to all kinds of WordPress events around the globe. It shows next WordPress upcoming events like WordCamps scheduled, MeetupsMeetup Meetup groups are locally-organized groups that get together for face-to-face events on a regular basis (commonly once a month). Learn more about Meetups in our Meetup Organizer Handbook. and Next Gen WordPress Events (WordPress Events from now on).

For context, that landing page was the result of an initiative that I started with a post back in August 2023 that ended up with a first GitHub issue and a series of other related issues.

What we have now

The first iteration of this project created the following three pages:

Call for feedback!

Those three pages are just the beginning of a vision where we bring WordPress Events closer to our users and visitors of WordPress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/.

The most important goal how I envision it, it’s for the Events landing page and the Organizers Landing page to become the main and only pages that anyone would need to check and/or share when want to check for upcoming WordPress events and/or when want to check or share any info about how to become a WordPress event organizer.

We want to keep iterating and your feedback is key to doing it! Please leave your comments with any relevant feedback about how you would improve those pages, and texts… are you missing anything relevant? Any ideas are welcome!

#events-2, #feedback, #highlight, #homepage, #next-gen-events

Announcing the New WordPress Events Page 

Howdy, WordPress community! We’re thrilled to announce the launch of the brand new WordPress Events page, which was previewed during State of the Word. This dynamic platform is designed to be the central hub for WordPress events. Check it out at events.wordpress.org!

What’s in Store for You?

Discover and Organize Local Events 

Whether you’re a seasoned developer, a content creator, or a WordPress beginner, there are WordPress events for everyone! Through the new Events page, you can find upcoming events in your community, or apply to organize one.

Insightful Statistics

Stay in the loopLoop The Loop is PHP code used by WordPress to display posts. Using The Loop, WordPress processes each post to be displayed on the current page, and formats it according to how it matches specified criteria within The Loop tags. Any HTML or PHP code in the Loop will be processed on each post. https://codex.wordpress.org/The_Loop. with insightful statistics showcasing the global impact of WordPress events. Discover the number of events hosted, the total number of participants, and the diversity of countries involved. It’s a testament to the incredible worldwide reach of the WordPress community.

Smart Search Functionality

Find events tailored to your preferences with the page’s advanced search functionality. FilterFilter Filters are one of the two types of Hooks https://codex.wordpress.org/Plugin_API/Hooks. They provide a way for functions to modify data of other functions. They are the counterpart to Actions. Unlike Actions, filters are meant to work in an isolated manner, and should never have side effects such as affecting global variables and output. events by format, type, month, and country to ensure you discover the most relevant and exciting WordPress gatherings.

Organize an Event FAQs

Thinking about organizing your own WordPress event? The Organize an Event page is filled with frequently asked questions to guide you through the process. Whether you’re a seasoned organizer or a first-timer, you’ll find valuable insights to make your event a success.

We Want Your Feedback!

We value your opinions and experiences with the new WordPress Event page. Comment below to share your thoughts, suggestions, and feedback. Let us know how the page enhances your WordPress community experience!

If you’re feeling tech-savvy, contribute directly to the development process on GitHubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/. Visit WordPress/wordcamp.org to add your insights, report issues, and contribute to the ongoing improvement of this fantastic resource.

Let’s make the WordPress community stronger, more vibrant, and more connected than ever before! 

Happy Exploring!

Thank you, @juliarosia and @peiraisotta, for contributing to this announcement! 


#annoucement #events #community-team

Should We Allow Sponsor Demo Rooms or Tracks at Events?

The discussion at WCUSWCUS WordCamp US. The US flagship WordCamp event. contributor dayContributor Day Contributor Days are standalone days, frequently held before or after WordCamps but they can also happen at any time. They are events where people get together to work on various areas of https://make.wordpress.org/ There are many teams that people can participate in, each with a different focus. https://2017.us.wordcamp.org/contributor-day/ https://make.wordpress.org/support/handbook/getting-started/getting-started-at-a-contributor-day/. sparked conversation around new opportunities events could possibly offer to sponsors. One of them was a place to better explain or showcase their products. 

Today, a WordCampWordCamp WordCamps are casual, locally-organized conferences covering everything related to WordPress. They're one of the places where the WordPress community comes together to teach one another what they’ve learned throughout the year and share the joy. Learn more. proposed this idea in the form of a Sponsor Demo room or track.

In short, sponsors would be given the option to present information of their choosing in the Sponsor Demo room or track. The event would be responsible for highlighting to attendees that this is sponsor-driven content that could include sales pitches. 

What do we think of this idea?

If we like the idea, here are a few questions that quickly come to mind. 

  • How would an event offer it to sponsors?
    • Could it be a stand alone option?
    • Would it need to be part of a package? 
    • Could it be an add on to a package?
  • Should we call it a track or a room to differentiate it from the Speaker Track?

Please leave any additional questions below as well as any feedback or comments.

#discussion, #events-2, #sponsorship, #wordcamps

Call for ideas: new features for our NextGen WP events central page

As the WordPress.org new design is taking shape, I’d like to open a call for ideas with this post to find the most useful and desirable features for a future homepage that would host a list of all Next Gen WordPress events, have a centralized place to find the next WP events, all open calls for speakers, sponsors, volunteers, ticket sales,… and to be able to filterFilter Filters are one of the two types of Hooks https://codex.wordpress.org/Plugin_API/Hooks. They provide a way for functions to modify data of other functions. They are the counterpart to Actions. Unlike Actions, filters are meant to work in an isolated manner, and should never have side effects such as affecting global variables and output. them by continent, country, language, type of event, etc.

I’d like to share The Linux Foundation Events page for reference as it contains many elements that we’re missing in the WordCamp Central Schedule page and that it would be very useful for attendees, sponsors, etc.

I’d like to highlight:

  • You can search events by name, topic, categories, country…
  • Every event in the list has a direct link to its registration page, schedule, call for speakers (if currently open), call for sponsors (if currently open), etc.
  • The top submenu includes links to the pages where someone can see all the calls for speakers currently open, all calls for sponsors currently open, etc.
  • I visualize this new homepage as a place where people can find any kind of WP event: meetupsMeetup Meetup groups are locally-organized groups that get together for face-to-face events on a regular basis (commonly once a month). Learn more about Meetups in our Meetup Organizer Handbook., WordCamps, NexGen events, WP workshops,…

Ideas are welcome!

It’s our opportunity to create something that improves our current “Upcoming Events” and WordCamp Central Schedule pages and to create a more modern and usable site that can be useful to newcomers, attendees, sponsors, etc., and to promote it publicly more.

Please comment with your feedback and please add any more features that you’d like to see in this new site, thanks!

#call-for-ideas, #design, #events-2, #features, #highlight, #homepage, #new-design, #next-gen, #next-gen-events

Notes of Community Team Discussion on May 25, 2023

Yesterday’s Community Team discussion was fantastic! We had 99 people registered for the event, and 43 attendees from all around the world! Thank you all for your passion, curiosity, and energy during the call and during the brainstorming session.

We started the session with an introduction about the organizer, volunteer, and sponsor struggle coming back to in-person events after the pandemic, and the new purpose that emerged from it for the WP Community. 

After clarifying doubts regarding the future of traditional MeetupMeetup Meetup groups are locally-organized groups that get together for face-to-face events on a regular basis (commonly once a month). Learn more about Meetups in our Meetup Organizer Handbook. and WordCamps, we had a brainstorming session aimed to generate new ideas for the next generation of WordPress events. Participants discussed in small groups about fundamental aspects that we have to consider when moving forward with pilot events for new event types.

We asked attendees to ignore the hanbooks and focus on the new purpose and for the event to be: 

  • doable (for human and financial resources)
  • repeatable (by new/old organizer and more than once per year)
  • scalable (other communities might try the same format)
  • desirable (for organizer, attendees, sponsors, volunteers). 

Keeping the above in mind, in 9 breakout rooms attendees brainstormed about the following topics:

  • Event formats (room 1-2)
  • Organizing team structure (room 3-4)
  • Organizing timeline (room 5-6)
  • Benefits for sponsors (room 7-8)
  • Infrastructure/tools required (room 9)

After the session, which lasted about 10 minutes, we all came back to the main room and we shared the outcomes of our discussions. Many people agreed that 10 minutes were not enough to deeply discuss the topics assigned. 

We encouraged attendees to bring the same conversation in their MeetupsMeetup Meetup groups are locally-organized groups that get together for face-to-face events on a regular basis (commonly once a month). Learn more about Meetups in our Meetup Organizer Handbook. and communities, and we’ll soon publish talking points that they can use if needed.

We ended the session inviting everyone to share their ideas for new event formats using this form, so the Community Team can collect all ideas and get back to organizers who want to have pilot events in their communities.

The community team would love to support as many pilot events as possible already in 2023.

Below some ideas, feedback, and thoughts from the brainstorming session.

Event format

Ideas

  • Youth camp: open only 15-25 year old newbies, and teach them how to build an e-commerce site
  • HostCamp – WC for specific technology like – hosting, domain, performance and security
  • LearnCamp – Mainly focusing on settings up websites and CMS

Organizing Team Structure

The team setup depends on the event size and expectations. A medium sized Workshop event would need the following teams:

  • Leads
  • Sponsors
  • Logistics
  • Budget
  • Content

The content team is special in this case as it should consist of people who are great in the skills (dev, design, architecture, security, etc.) But also be capable to work with the facilitators on how to make the workshop a success for everyone involved.

Benefits for Sponsors

It is challenging to find a way to increase sponsor visibility and benefit, without taking this space from speakers and volunteers. Some ideas and thoughts about experiment to try.

  • Target a specific audience: at themed events, have sponsors interested in that specific audience
  • Networking moments for sponsors to connect with job seekers
  • Give sponsor possibility to open up to new markets (e.g. WooCommerce did not have the local currency in a country, but through WordCamps, they got it! Yay!)
  • Organize for attendees a “sponsor tour” to meet all sponsors

Tooling

Ideas

  • AI airpods for instant translations
  • For speakers application: having 1 tool to manage all applications, instead of having different manual processes (email, form) to manage by organizers in each website
  • Have dedicated and specific tools depending on the event size

General doubts and challenges shared by the attendees

  • It’s difficult to decide the local sponsorship level, it would be useful to have guidelines for each country or based on the Mac Index
  • It’s very challenging to get local sponsorship (especially Nigeria/Uganda if communities are small) but organizing big events is hard because of the lack of volunteers. One solution could be organizing an event halfway in attendance between Meetup and WordCamps, but keeping it to 1 event per year
  • For Regional WordCamps one day is not enough, people travel from other cities and need to spend more time together
  • The current ticketing system is limiting

Thank you so much to all people who attended yesterday’s session, there will be more to come next month, both online and in-person!

In-person discussions at WC Europe, Athens:

Keep an eye out for the next virtual discussion!

Thank you to all organizers who have already shared their ideas for new event formats and want to give it a try in 2023! If anybody else has an idea in mind, share it with the Community Team and we’ll get back to you to try to make it happen!

When thinking about new formats, please keep in my the purpose:

WordPress events spark innovation and adoption by way of accessible training and networking for users, builders, designers, and extenders. We celebrate community by accelerating 21st-century skills, professional opportunities, and partnerships for WordPressers of today and tomorrow.

The new generation of WordPress events will be:

  • doable (for human and financial resources)
  • repeatable (by new/old organizer and more than once per year)
  • scalable (other communities might try the same format)
  • desirable (for organizer, attendees, sponsors, volunteers)

Looking forward to meeting with you all soon again!

Thanks again to @samsuresh , @devinmaeztri, and @angelasjin for facilitating the session.

#community-events, #events-2, #next-gen-events

Proposal: Steps to Integrate #WPDiversity into WordPress Event Organizing

Context

To fulfill WordPress’s mission to democratize publishing, the Community team seeks to actively reduce barriers to current and future participation, engagement, and sense of belonging in WordPress events.

People who experience marginalization in broader society are more likely to experience barriers to full participation in their WordPress community. As community contributors, we have the ability and responsibility to actively counteract these forces to build a thriving, inclusive community.

The WordPress community is diverse and global. The power of open sourceOpen Source Open Source denotes software for which the original source code is made freely available and may be redistributed and modified. Open Source **must be** delivered via a licensing model, see GPL. is that anyone can contribute from anywhere at any time, regardless of their background.

The more diverse our community is, the stronger it becomes. With different perspectives come new innovations, ideas, and solutions. This results in better user experiences for all, from bloggers setting up sites to organizers and attendees of our in-person community events.

Inclusive environments don’t happen overnight – or without effort. As our community grows, so have ideas and efforts to help welcome more diverse voices into the fold.

WPDiversity Programs

#WPDiversity programs are designed to empower WordPress community members with skills and resources to organize and contribute to diverse and inclusive WordPress events. This proposal offers a pathway to introduce all WordCampWordCamp WordCamps are casual, locally-organized conferences covering everything related to WordPress. They're one of the places where the WordPress community comes together to teach one another what they’ve learned throughout the year and share the joy. Learn more. and meetupMeetup Meetup groups are locally-organized groups that get together for face-to-face events on a regular basis (commonly once a month). Learn more about Meetups in our Meetup Organizer Handbook. organizers to #WPDiversity programs, with the aim of helping to strengthen their events from inception.

By proactively sharing information about these programs and an invitation to participate with new and existing event organizers, we can shape a culture in which awareness of and action toward diversity and inclusion are embedded in events from the planning outset.

Proposal

Existing WordCamp and Meetup Organizers

All WordCamp and meetup organizers would receive an email inviting and encouraging them to take the following actions in preparation for their upcoming or ongoing WordPress events:

  • Participate in the Allyship training (interactive video watch party or watch the prerecorded video on their own);
  • Organize an Allyship and/or Diverse Speaker training for their local community, or invite their community to join one of the regularly-scheduled global trainings.
  • Join the #DiverseSpeakerSupport SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. channel, participate in the channel discussions, and share their event’s calls for organizers and speakers; and request that their Speaker WranglerWrangler Someone, usually a person part of event organizing team, who looks after certain things like budget or sponsors. do the same.

New WordCamp and Meetup Organizers

All new WordCamp and meetup organizers would automatically receive the invitation described above as they are onboarded.

All WordCamp and Meetup Organizers

Further, all event organizers would be required to:

  • Read handbook pages that cover key concepts and practices for creating a welcoming and inclusive event;
  • Demonstrate comprehension through the completion of a quiz.

An effective starting point would be to add new lessons to the Meetup Organizer Training and WordCamp Organizer Training. The required reading would include links to optional resources to go deeper.

Share Your Feedback!

Please share your thoughts on this proposal by Friday, April 8! I would be interested to know:

  • How might this approach impact your community?
  • What do you like about this approach?
  • What’s missing?
  • What other ideas do you have?

Kudos to @angelasjin, @mysweetcate, @alliennimmons, @wpfangirl, @devinmaeztri, @peiraisotta, @jillbinder, @nao, @tacoverdo and @planningwrite for contributing to this post.

#community-events, #community-team, #event-planning-training-materials, #events-2

Reimagining Online Event Sponsorships

As we start reimagining what online events look like, so might we also have to reconsider our sponsorship packages and the perks we offer to our sponsors.

Online events do not incur such a high cost as in person events do, so the requirement to gather large sponsorship funds to make a successful WordCampWordCamp WordCamps are casual, locally-organized conferences covering everything related to WordPress. They're one of the places where the WordPress community comes together to teach one another what they’ve learned throughout the year and share the joy. Learn more. no longer exists. This might mean that WordCamp organizers don’t feel the need to reach out to existing sponsors, and get them involved.

On the other hand, with online events, companies could possibly sponsor many more events worldwide, instead of focusing their sponsorships to local only events. So the possible reach of a sponsor could be wider.

It is important to remember that the option to sponsor a WordCamp has traditionally been with the agreement that sponsors don’t receive any “pay to play” type benefits. So typically sponsor perks have included things like advertising at key locations around the event, and sponsor booths/tables to interact with attendees and hand out swag.

In an online event, this is not possible, so WordCamps have had to adapt. One such example is the option of a Virtual Sponsor booth, where attendees can log in to a virtual room to chat with sponsors. This is something that is already being made available at existing WordCamps.

This is equivalent to offering a sponsor a physical booth/table in the general sponsors area at a WordCamp, typically in a space where attendees are very likely to walk past and therefore interact with sponsors.

The problem with such an option is that, if attendees have to log off the regular WordCamp platform, then go find some other link to the Virtual Booth, the experience becomes arduous and full of friction for the attendee making, it highly unlikely they’ll attend.

This ends up meaning that the Virtual Booth has no real benefit to sponsors, and as such, may opt out of choosing a higher tier sponsor package, that would include such a perk.

This post serves to open a discussion around the concept of sponsorships for virtual WordCamps, how they might need to change to fit into the new world of the all online event, and how we can better marry the needs of sponsors to the needs of attendees, to make an online event successful.

Please leave suggestions/ideas as comments on this post, which I will leave open for one week until Thursday 23 July 2020 at 3:00pm UTC. After that I will filterFilter Filters are one of the two types of Hooks https://codex.wordpress.org/Plugin_API/Hooks. They provide a way for functions to modify data of other functions. They are the counterpart to Actions. Unlike Actions, filters are meant to work in an isolated manner, and should never have side effects such as affecting global variables and output. the comments in a follow up post, where we can discuss them in detail, with an aim to turn them into an actionable plan for sponsorships of our online events.

Thanks to @hlashbrooke for reviewing this post and making sure I don’t sound foolish 🙂

#events-2, #wordcamps

Reimagining Online Events

This year, the WordPress Community has faced an unprecedented challenge. In response, we took big steps in moving WordCamps, Meetups, and other community events online, and together, we provided the community with some stability during this global crisis, by bringing the in-person WordCampWordCamp WordCamps are casual, locally-organized conferences covering everything related to WordPress. They're one of the places where the WordPress community comes together to teach one another what they’ve learned throughout the year and share the joy. Learn more. experience online.

Now that we’ve had a number of outstanding online WordCamps, including WordCamp Europe, we have the opportunity to think beyond simply recreating in-person events. 

Instead, we can take this chance to get creative and take our online WordPress events to the next level, exploring how we can transform online events to better serve our community.

Let’s innovate and iterate!

Successful WordPress Community events help people learn to use and contribute to WordPress. Community organizers make this possible by connecting WordPress enthusiasts and inspiring people to do more with WordPress, making it easier for people to contribute to WordPress.

How can we best achieve these goals, advancing the growth and adoption of WordPress, through online events? As an attendee, what would inspire you to participate in an online event?

A few concepts that have been brainstormed by Community deputiesProgram Supporter Community Program Supporters (formerly Deputies) are a team of people worldwide who review WordCamp and Meetup applications, interview lead organizers, and keep things moving at WordCamp Central. Find more about program supporters in our Program Supporter Handbook. include:

  • WordCamp JavaScriptJavaScript JavaScript or JS is an object-oriented computer programming language commonly used to create interactive effects within web browsers. WordPress makes extensive use of JS for a better user experience. While PHP is executed on the server, JS executes within a user’s browser. https://www.javascript.com/.
  • WordCamp Portuguese Online
  • Advanced Developer WordCamp Online, August Edition
  • WordPress 101 Online, Hindi Edition
  • BlockBlock Block is the abstract term used to describe units of markup that, composed together, form the content or layout of a webpage using the WordPress editor. The idea combines concepts of what in the past may have achieved with shortcodes, custom HTML, and embed discovery into a single consistent API and user experience. Builders Bi-Weekly
  • WordCamp “How It Works”**
  • Documentation Contributor Workshop
  • WordCamp for Non-Profits
  • Content Creators Weekly Round-up

**Wins the prize for worst event title.

Other, broader ideas include: 

  • Decouple online events from geography
  • Encourage events and workshops defined by topics, languages, etc.
  • Explore shorter, “snack-sized” online events
  • Experiment with the frequency of events

Share your ideas 

What can online events make possible for WordPress? What do you think about these ideas, and what other ideas do you have? What online events have impressed you? What online events have been successful in your local community? 

Please share as many ideas as you can, in comments to this post by 17 July, 2020. Community team deputiesProgram Supporter Community Program Supporters (formerly Deputies) are a team of people worldwide who review WordCamp and Meetup applications, interview lead organizers, and keep things moving at WordCamp Central. Find more about program supporters in our Program Supporter Handbook. will then start working on how to support organizers in creating effective and powerful online WordPress events, to be discussed in a follow-up post. 

Thanks to the following deputies for their feedback and contributions to this post: @andreamiddleton, @bph, @camikaos @courtneypk, @harishanker, @hlashbrooke, @kcristiano, @monchomad, @sippis

#meetups, #events-2, #wordcamps

Community Team Slack Channels

Hi all,

I want to propose that we rename #outreach to #community-team and follow CoreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. and MetaMeta Meta is a term that refers to the inside workings of a group. For us, this is the team that works on internal WordPress sites like WordCamp Central and Make WordPress. in their sub team channel naming convention which for the Community team would be #community-usage.

For example, the events room would be renamed to #community-events. The way slackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. works means that any channel name changes will not effect or kick anyone out of any room they are currently a part of, just that they will see the name has changed.

Part of the reason why is because many people who are looking for the community team do not look or realise we are in #outreach. This includes a core committer who i would label as an advance Slack user. In fact, when I told them the community team uses #outreach for our community channel their response was

Oh, that’s what that channel is
Weird
I’d expect #community and #community-usage
#events I can see potentially being different
But #outreach I always thought was like for engagement with the wider community
Kinda like #marketing

They also pointed out that when searching for a channel, people automatically search for community and get a response of No match found. Did you spell it correctly?

Screenshot of the result when you type Community into the Slack channel search. It responds with No match found. Did you spell it correctly?

I have also noticed that the #outreach gets messages regarding people doing outreach for their products. Although not often, the mistake is understandable considering what the channel is called. Back when WordPress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/ took to Slack, we were called #community – but many people thought it was a water-cooler location for anyone to have a natter. This was the reasoning behind the switch to #outreach. Instead, I would like to propose we call it #community-team which makes it clear that the channel is for the Community team.

The other reason why I would like to propose these changes is because I’ve been trying to get into updating the handbook, but it’s a really boring process to do on your own and talking about it in #events or #outreach, the conversation gets lost in all the other conversations that are happening in there.

I think that the Core team and the Meta team’s use of #team-thing has meant that conversations are kept focused on the channel topic. It allows for people to only follow conversations that they are interested in and helps with the timezone issue where we have people across the world wanting to follow one particular topic.

At a minimum i can in vision the following channels

It could be extended to – if people feel like it could be helpful to WordCampWordCamp WordCamps are casual, locally-organized conferences covering everything related to WordPress. They're one of the places where the WordPress community comes together to teach one another what they’ve learned throughout the year and share the joy. Learn more. mentorsEvent Supporter Event Supporter (formerly Mentor) is someone who has already organised a WordCamp and has time to meet with their assigned mentee every 2 weeks, they talk over where they should be in their timeline, help them to identify their issues, and also identify solutions for their issues. #community-mentors – a support location for people mentoring WordCamps in a similar vein to the forum support for the moderators.

And later maybe #community-deputies – a support location for people who are doing deputyProgram Supporter Community Program Supporters (formerly Deputies) are a team of people worldwide who review WordCamp and Meetup applications, interview lead organizers, and keep things moving at WordCamp Central. Find more about program supporters in our Program Supporter Handbook. work in a similar vein to #community-mentors. It would also give a clearer view of what it is that deputiesProgram Supporter Community Program Supporters (formerly Deputies) are a team of people worldwide who review WordCamp and Meetup applications, interview lead organizers, and keep things moving at WordCamp Central. Find more about program supporters in our Program Supporter Handbook. do for anyone wanting to join the deputy program as they can see the things deputies discuss and talk about.

All these channels will still be accessible to everyone so there is no issue with transparency.

I would love to hear your thoughts about this.

Jenny

#deputies