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  • Jen Mylo 2:28 am on April 25, 2013 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: gnome   

    Gnome Outreach Program for Women 

    Hi support team. I would like to include Support in our Gnome participation this summer if there are any applicants interested in working in the forums etc over the summer. @ipstenu and/or other experienced team members: Head over to http://codex.wordpress.org/Gnome_Summer_Program_for_Women#Support and fill in project ideas (optional, I made a default idea that basically covers answering questions and beefing up support docs) and info on whoever from this team is willing/able to mentor an intern (ideally we put more than one mentor with each student so the time commitment isn’t too heavy). No idea yet how many student slots we’ll get.

     
  • Jen Mylo 9:59 pm on January 16, 2013 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: contributors, , training   

    Training Group, Team Reps, and Growing the Team 

    Hi Support Team! A bunch of things today….

    Welcome Training to Support

    At the community summit, we went a little bit team-creating-crazy. As such, we splintered people into groups (like docs out of support) rather than splintering into projects within larger teams. For Support, this meant that electing team reps was especially hard, since the people getting votes were repping other teams.

    One of these new teams, Training, started with excitement but then petered out with no activity for a couple of months. The solution to these two issues seemed pretty clear: merge Training back into Support, and have Christine Rondeau serve as the 2nd team rep. @ipstenu was in favor, so there we go. Welcome Christine back to the fold!

    Christine will be working closely with the Community Outreach group, and we’re starting to plan our first training project already. It’l be focused on Troubleshooting WordPress, aimed at leveling up people to the point that they can do more with WP professionally, and could be more confident contributing to forums. She’ll undoubtedly be asking you all for ideas and help. Note: in line with the diversity initiatives, we’re going to do this first workshop for women, a la railsbridge. It’ll also get posted online for all and sundry.

    Contributor Drive

    I’ve been scouring every open source project’s community sites to see how they approach things, and one had a great concept that I want us to steal modify, use, and redistribute. :) The idea was this:

    Weekend Project: Become a Contributor

    We’ve done things like this at WordCamps (usually on dev day, and mostly focused on contributing to core), but what I was thinking of for support was something not too intensive: 20 Questions.

    20 Questions Proposal:

    • Publicize the weekend project to become an official wp forums contributor, called 20 Questions.
    • People can sign up to be part of the weekend contributor drive. Current volunteers (approved as knowing their stuff) will be the mentors.
    • Their goal is to answer 20 questions successfully (mentor says yes, good answer) during the weekend before the cutoff time.
    • Keep at least 1 support person in IRC channel for team at all times during the weekend (make schedule in advance).
    • At cutoff, tally the results! People who got at least 20 right are officially congratulated and welcomed as support contributors. We can make a graphic they can put in their sidebars or something maybe. People who didn’t make it are thanked for their efforts, and pointed to resources to help them level up. The person with the most questions answered gets a prize. The person who answered the hardest question gets a prize (so they aren’t incentivized to just do easy ones). We can do wp swag and/or WC tix for prizes.

    What do you guys think? I think it would be super fun.

     
    • Tom Willmot 10:05 pm on January 16, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      A contributor drive sounds like a great idea. + 1 from me.

    • Carrie Dils 10:05 pm on January 16, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Hi Jane, I love the idea. I think the 20 questions would give someone like me the opportunity to know for sure whether my knowledge level is up to par (and the confidence to jump into forums). I also like offering resources to give people pointed feedback for increasing knowledge. +1

    • masonjames 10:08 pm on January 16, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Love this idea. It gives a very specific time to for engagement and criteria for success. Count me in. I’ll do what I can to bring some peeps with me as well and would be happy to be on IRC.

    • nofearinc 10:20 pm on January 16, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      I feel pity about the Training group, but seems like the majority of training academies and speakers are working solo. Anyway, that contributor drive is great and I look forward to it!

      • Jen Mylo 10:25 pm on January 16, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        There’s no reason to feel pity…. the people and the projects are still alive, but now in a more supportive group environment that will encourage participation.

      • Ipstenu (Mika Epstein) 4:13 pm on January 17, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        To add on to what Jen said, training is the other half of support. It helps us get better at giving support, and helps the people who get support get better at what they do. It’s a logical grouping :)

    • Emil Uzelac 11:35 pm on January 16, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      +1 Jen!

      • Avi_Lambert 3:30 am on January 17, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        +1 for the 20 questions concept – IRC, Google Hangout, Twitter Chat, I’m in for all of ‘em.

    • Kathy Drewien 6:17 am on January 17, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      I want to play. My intentions of getting more involved in training and support never seem to materialize into action. Perhaps a public declaration will propel me forward.

      • Christine Rondeau 5:05 pm on January 17, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        I declared it publicly on my about page years ago – http://about.me/crondeau
        It’s nothing official, but it’s there anyway.

        If you do contribute to the forums, core, themes, etc… I would just add that to your bio or wherever. I don’t think that there are any rules about that.

    • Aaron Nimocks 2:56 am on January 19, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Is the contributer drive a go for the weekend? I’m sure I’ll answer at last 20 either way but it is a cool idea. Gives me a goal.

      • Jane Wells 3:26 am on January 19, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Not for this weekend; we would need to officially set up available mentors, publicize the drive etc. I would think we’d want 2 weeks advance notice.

    • Tom Auger 7:14 pm on January 25, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Are we talking about the Smarterer WordPress quiz (ie: http://build.codepoet.com/quiz/)?

      • Brandon Kraft 9:10 pm on January 25, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        My understanding is forum questions- let folks answer real support questions at wp.org/support

    • Kathryn Presner 2:26 pm on January 26, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Just wanted to say how much I love both the Contributor Drive and Troubleshooting WordPress for Women ideas. I’ll be away the weekend of Feb. 15 but will be glad to publicize the drive in the Montreal & Ottawa WP community groups, no matter when it ends up happening.

    • abletec 3:51 am on February 17, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Hello:

      I\’d like to get involved. I realize I\’m not a known quantity. I don\’t know if I\’m even close to being knowledgeable enough. I really like security & troubleshooting aspects of wordpress. I host WP sites, help folks set them up, troubleshoot various aspects, etc. I\’m also sight-impaired so interested in accessibility as well. I\’m also a lady, so working w/other ladies would be really cool!

      So am I even welcome, &, if so, where should I start?

      Thanks for any replies.

  • Siobhan 2:48 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: handbooks   

    Handbooks! 

    Hi everyone,

    We had a really productive chat about the WordPress Handbooks over the weekend, and I’d love to see a push on them. It’ll be a long term thing, no doubt. The aim of the handbooks is to provide useful guides and references for people who want to contribute to WordPress. You can already see an example of the beginnings of one on the WordPress Core Contributor P2.

    The handbooks will be:

    • Core
    • Support
    • Documentation
    • Polyglots
    • Mobile
    • Theme Review
    • Developing WordPress Themes (in adherence to the theme review guidelines)
    • Developing Plugins for the repo
    • Events

    Tell me if I’ve missed anything!

    I don’t think Systems need a manual. I spoke to @helenyhou and for now UI will be part of core. If, as the content progresses, the UI guys feel that they need a handbook we can help them to put that together.

    I’d love it for the handbooks to be written as a collaboration between the support/docs team and the various contributor groups. That means corralling people from across the community to get involved. There’s already a lot of content that we can work with, and we can create more. Here are some resources for finding the current documentation:

    Structure

    At the summit we discussed creating these as a set of educational resources for contributing to WordPress. Rather than just diving in and creating a whole bunch of content I think the approach to take is to start off with a schematic structure. It would be great to start off with the intention of creating a set of documentation that is coherent – kind of like a set of Cliff Notes books that you get for studying at school. This means that if someone has become familiar with one handbook they’ll be familiar with the structure of the next. This is a great aid to learning. To achieve this, we could do the following:

    • come up with a schematic content template that will be used for each of the handbooks. This will have to be done by looking at all of the content that we think we’ll need and building up the content template from that. It shouldn’t be too prescriptive as every group has its own needs, but an underlying structure
    • use a schematic template for individual doc items.
    • use the same tone of voice and language across the docs.
    • use coherent styles for different elements in the docs. For example, having call out boxes that have the same styles for tips, or other important information.

    Every guide will include best practices.

    Anything else that anyone thinks that would help to achieve consistency?

    Content

    Once we have a structure then we can start to think about content. I’ve had a number of people say that they would like to get involved with this project, particularly with events and plugins. If anyone else would like to help then leave a message in the comments.

    Ideally, we should divide the workload as much as possible. We should also make best use of everyone’s expertise. I was thinking that we could create a workflow that went something along these lines:

    1. Volunteer from contributor group produces the content. If the person is unable to create the content themselves, this could be a recommendation for what they want, or a link to a blog post or another article that has the information required. This doesn’t need to adhere to the voice and style guidelines.
    2. Volunteer from the doc team edits the content to get it into house style, make sure everything is clear, and add any content as needed.

    What next?

    First steps:

    • gather volunteers from the various contributor groups, or from people who are working in the different areas who would like to be involved.
    • get suggestions about the content that should be included in the handbook.

    Second steps:

    • come up with some mockups of how users can navigate and use the documentation. I can start a project in Balsamiq and we can collaborate using that.
    • come up with the content structure
    • develop a workflow to ensure that:

    a) things get done
    b) we keep on top of updates

    Third steps:

    • write, bother people, nag, edit

    Final step:

    • drink beer

    I read a great quote when I was doing some research on docs for a client. It said ” User documentation should be considered part of the user interface for your system and therefore should undergo usability testing.”

    I’m not sure if we need to concern ourselves with usability testing (though we may want to in the future) but we should keep clarity, usability, and user experience in mind at all times throughout the process. We want awesome handbooks that are useful and that help us to grow the contribution community.

    Phew – that was a lot! They’re all the things on my mind right now but let’s have a discussion.

     
    • Brad Williams 2:55 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I’m really excited to see this starting to take shape! I am definitely in to help with the Plugin Development handbook. I also have a lot of experience laying out sections/sub-sections so could contribute to the overall structure of the handbook as well.

      • Pippin Williamson 3:05 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        I’d be happy to help with the plugin dev handbook as well.

        • Siobhan 3:29 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

          Sweet! Looks like we’ve got a plugin dev handbook team shaping up.

          • Brad Williams 5:00 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

            What are the next steps as a team is formed? Should we track who is in each team somewhere or are you handling that Siobhan?

            • Siobhan 5:05 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink

              Let’s gather volunteers over the next few days or so. Once I get most of the bases covered we could have a Google hangout to start fleshing things out. I was thinking that if we form small teams for each handbook, each with an editor and a group of authors, that may be a good way to approach it.

              Once we’ve discussed workflow etc we could look at a task management app like Trello or Asana for managing the whole thing. I’m totally open to suggestions though. So once we’ve got our volunteers let’s get into a hangout and talk it out.

        • Maor Chasen 7:38 pm on November 5, 2012 Permalink | Reply

          Same here. Would love to help with that.

      • Dougal Campbell 4:16 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        As I mentioned at WPCS, I see a big black documentation hole where Best Practices should be. So I will start bringing some resources together on that. I’ll start with plugin dev / security topics, but there’s a lot of overlap with themes, so I’ll be dipping into that, as well. Not sure what kind of time I’ll have, but I’ll make time. “I will!” :)

        • Siobhan 4:53 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

          Cool. I think every handbook should have a Best Practices section. That’ll be a great resource for people to learn, and to point to people to when they’re doing things wrong.

      • Tom McFarlin 6:20 pm on November 14, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        If it’s not too crowded, consider me on board for the Plugin Development handbook, as well.

    • christine 2:59 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I thought that the handbooks were being moved to learn.wordpress.org ( see Mika’s last post – http://make.wordpress.org/support/2012/10/summit-action-items/ )

      Also, the new section for Teachers might have a lot of overlap with Theme Development. We’ll have to coordinate and make sure we don’t just simply repeat ourselves.

      I won’t be incorporating anything about plugins, though. As a teacher, I never teach that part and Brad Williams will be 1000% than I for that part.

      • Andrea Rennick 3:00 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        It;s just the USer Guide (sometimes we call it a handbook) that is going to Learn.

        • christine 3:02 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

          Hah, that makes sense. I just heard handbook and assumed it was all of them. But Duh, of course. Silly me.

          • Ipstenu (Mika Epstein) 3:19 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

            Also it’s a ‘We will move…’ There’s some hefty backend work that’ll need to be done before we can. But I do want to get all the handbooks out to learn eventually :D

      • Siobhan 3:30 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        Yup – let’s have a chat about it some time over the next few weeks.

    • Amy Hendrix (sabreuse) 3:04 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Exciting stuff! Thanks for keeping it all moving!

    • Brandon Dove 4:51 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      We’ve already got some traction going on the Events handbook here: https://gist.github.com/3955569. For the sake of consistency, should we move http://plan.wordcamp.org to http://make.wordcamp.org/events/handbook?

      • Siobhan 4:58 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        I suspect that the stuff at plan.wordcamp.org will probably stay where it is. It depends what Andrea thinks about it – either we’ll have to duplicate it or link to it.

        I think that the handbook will be worked on at: http://make.wordpress.org/events/handbook/ then we’ll make a lovely bundle at learn.wp.org. @ipstenu – can we get a handbook page made on the events blog?

      • Brad Williams 5:00 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        I think Aaron pinged Andrea about posting those guidelines to make.wordcamp.org/events

        • Siobhan 5:01 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

          Okay, perfect. Would be great to have them as part of the handbook.

    • Siobhan 5:05 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      P.S. @vanillalounge has volunteered for the polyglots handbook :)

    • JerrySarcastic 6:31 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Siobhan, I have already started a little wireframing on my own; when you get Balsalmiq set up, I’m happy to contribute.

    • Lee 9:03 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Hi Siobhan,

      Unless it’s covered anywhere else – do you need an “Accessibility” handbook ?

      • Siobhan 9:05 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        Yes! I knew that I’d forget something. I’ll check with the the team rep to see if they want one (not sure who’s leading accessibility tho)

        • esmi 11:06 am on November 2, 2012 Permalink | Reply

          • Siobhan 5:13 pm on November 2, 2012 Permalink | Reply

            Excellent. Would you like to have a dedicated accessibility handbook, or would you prefer to see accessbility as a part of plugins/themes/core?

            • esmi 8:38 pm on November 2, 2012 Permalink

              The latter. Accessibility is too big and goes well beyond WP’s remit, so I think it’s better for us to focus on what we can do to help/support the other areas of development.

            • Siobhan 8:43 pm on November 2, 2012 Permalink

              I think that’s the best approach too. Accessibility guidelines for each development manual. Can you help us to get those right?

            • esmi 1:56 pm on November 5, 2012 Permalink

              Just point me towards the places that these guidelines would be useful and I’m sure we’ll be able to put together something suitable.

    • Kari Leigh Marucchi 9:26 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Would like to help. I’m the client procedure documentation specialist for our company. So I’ll review the needs and see if I think I can fill any gaps and will get back to you. Great to see this going on!

      • Siobhan 3:09 am on November 2, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        We’d love to have you on board – am sure your expertise would be a great addition. Once I’ve collected volunteers I’ll post something about the next steps.

    • Helen Hou-Sandi 4:56 pm on November 2, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks for the awesome summary/update! UI is a funny thing because different parts end up in different areas – what we do for core vs. best practices for plugins/themes, that sort of thing. I think it’s better off as an integrated portion of each so that it is considered an integral part of the whole, rather than secondary and separated as it is sometimes considered by those who don’t value it as much.

      • Ipstenu (Mika Epstein) 5:55 pm on November 2, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        At the very least, I think UI can encourage people to not do silly things like reinvent the wheel with their own buttons ;) If you think it’d be better to have like a two-page ‘UI for Plugins’ and ‘UI for themes’ and then ‘UI for FrontEnd – how not to piss off your users’ though, we could write them on their own and integrate?

        • Siobhan 8:50 pm on November 2, 2012 Permalink | Reply

          A UI section for each manual that involves development would be great. Would love to have some of the UI guys helps out with that.

    • Sara Rosso 5:34 pm on November 5, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I’d like to help with documentation! Events and New Users would be good ones for me to tackle.

      One thing that’s not clear is how the New User info will be funneled back / synced back with up the Codex? Feels like a lot of overlap.

    • Chris 5:43 pm on November 5, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I’d be interested in helping out with the theme development handbook.

    • karmatosed 5:48 pm on November 5, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I’d like to help from a theme designer/dev perspective. I could also help from UI side too if needed.

    • jhoffm34 3:39 pm on November 9, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I’m a total newcomer but I would love to help out with the theme development or mobile handbook. It’s what I generally work on in my professional life and I’ve been looking for ways to give back.

    • Japh 1:57 pm on December 6, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I know we’ve talked about this in person, Siobhan, but I just wanted to put down here that I’m happy to be involved in the handbooks for Core and Plugin Development :)

  • Ipstenu (Mika Epstein) 4:10 pm on October 31, 2012 Permalink | Reply  

    Summit Action Items! 

    One of the things discussed was ‘Action Items’ which are simple tasks we need to do, as a group or individuals! Support’s are interesting. Support is bigger than just Forums/IRC/StackEchange (where I feel I excel). To that end, we’re going to branch out and people will become the lead for subgroups. First up?

    New Leads

    General Support Lead: Mika

    Group “Leads”:

    • Forums: Mika & Jan
    • Codex: Andrea R
    • Handbooks: Siobhan
    • Teach: Christine

    Now don’t panic. I’m not leaving, but one of the many issues with the team reps is we’re spread too thin, and I need to do a little less to get more done. Anything not named directly falls under ‘support’, so even though I consider Rarst to be the StackExchange lead, it’d probably go through me for now.

    These people were picked based on current activity in their fields, as well as their passions. This is our first step, however, and by no means the only or the final, so I’m sure things will continue to grow and change. I’m still the ‘lead’ here, so if you need a big stick, I’m a tweet/email away!

    Also leads is really not the right word here. They’re just ‘People who are going to seed groups as they branch off into their own.’ Obviously teaching and documentation aren’t ‘support’ and really don’t belong here at all. More sites coming soon? Oh yes.

    To Do List

    1. Moving the Handbooks to learn.wordpress.org – Yeah! That’s the new home! As soon as we have learn sorted out (@nacin knows) we’ll get this going.
    2. Videos, videos, videos! This will probably branch off on it’s own, but we want to include videos. If you’re interested in reviewing videos, we’re going to be collecting names etc soon to help out on wordpress.tv – Be aware, this will be a lot of work, but even if you can view one or two videos a day, we’re golden. Andrea M will be in on this, don’t worry.
    3. Teaching. For this we have Christine, who will be in charge of our collecting, reviewing, and posting on learn. More on that as soon as we sort out the learn sites with @nacin (probably learn.wordpress.org/teach)
    4. Pulling in info from the codex to learn, and leaving the codex as more ‘for developers’ and learn as ‘how to’ will be lead by Andrea R, and to that end I added in a ‘Hey cool person!’ message at the bottom of every codex page when you edit it.

    Attribution (Credit, Etc.)

    I sat in on ‘Non-Code Contributions to WordPress’ and took notes about the different ways people contribute to core (of which the folks here are a major one). Nacin and I also sat down and banged about the best way to separate the people who code from the people who are awesome in non-code ways, because they are different and deserve different recognition. First of all, we’re going to clarify the ‘Credits’ page on WP installs to make it clear that’s for code contributions — this is in-line with how other Open-Source products handle that. Then we’re going to sort out the best way to do an ‘about’ page to include the community.

    Rest assured, you are all really hugely important, and if you every feel like you’re not valued, know this: Thank you. All of you. Even if you did one thing this year, you helped. I appreciate you all.

    Other Things…

    Some of the topics you asked me to bring up I did, and they will show up in the other Make Blogs, so stay tuned to how we change up the front page of Make. Don’t forget to check out Make Meta while you’re at it!

    I may be missing things, and some ALL of this is in flux. Remember, release then iterate!

     
    • Andrea Rennick 4:16 pm on October 31, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      YAY! I think this will help us all be more focused and it will be easier to start getting more poeple involved and more importantly: get more done!

    • JerrySarcastic 4:19 pm on October 31, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Count me in for videos @ipstenu, can review and also help make them too. Here’s the one I did for Quick Press, to compliment the written documentation I’m drafting:

    • JerrySarcastic 4:21 pm on October 31, 2012 Permalink | Reply

    • Drew Jaynes (DrewAPicture) 5:30 pm on October 31, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      As I said in the email I just sent to the docs list, I’m interested in contributing more actively to the docs group. It sounds like I may just want to hit up Andrea and/or Lorelle on what’s next and how to go about it. Thank you Mika and Andrea for your extra effort at the Summit. I hear the pumpkin muffins were pretty awesome.

    • adavis3105 5:44 pm on October 31, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Where do I sign up for Teach!!

      • christine 3:01 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        HI Al, I just got back from #wpcs and need to catch up on a bunch of things and put an action plan in action. But it’s on my to-do list and I’ve made a note that you want to help. I’ll keep you posted. Just give me a few days.

    • rachelbaker 1:58 pm on November 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Congrats and a mega “thank you” to each volunteer for being helpful and involved in making WordPress more useful to everyone!

  • Andrea Rennick 9:27 pm on October 11, 2012 Permalink | Reply  

    Again with a meetup 

    The awesome Jerry is taking on Gravatars because it fits with the user section he has just completed.

    HTTPS is still up for grabs.

    Some proofreading going on and we’re wondering if we can un-techie “install on your own server” for newbies. Maybe soften it to “your web host”.

    Jerry has moved “your Profile” from chapter 7 and put it under “Managing Users on your WordPress Site” in Ch06.

    Also we noted about being careful with internal linking in the manual, depending on final home.

    Fastest meetup ever! There were only 3 of us.

     
  • Ipstenu (Mika Epstein) 7:02 pm on October 11, 2012 Permalink | Reply  

    Today’s Meetup 

    In keeping with my whirlwhind crazy, I may miss today’s meetup (there was a baby born!). In case I miss it, here’s a quick update of who needs to do what :)

    @jerrysarcastic – You’ve got ‘Adding Users’ which needs to get done.
    @ericlewis – It looks like you finished comments (yay!) so remember to check it off on http://make.wordpress.org/support/user-manual/ ;)
    @andrea_r and @ipstenu – Multisite, you lazy moving pair!

    Unassigned:

    I cannot express how awesome you all are for getting us this far so fast!

     
  • Ipstenu (Mika Epstein) 8:28 pm on August 30, 2012 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Chat, write up   

    Chat Recap – Aug 30 

    We did a lot in an hour!
    Handbook Changes

    The ‘user handbook’ is now at http://make.wordpress.org/support/user-handbook/

    However this is temp! We’re going to build out at http://make.wordpress.org/support/user-manual/ starting with a more clear Table of Contents. Once we have that done, we can bring pages over one at a time. In the mean time, edit in http://make.wordpress.org/support/user-handbook/ and when you’re done tag the page (oh yes, we haz tags!)

    We’re going to try to split the handbook into ‘weeks’ with the goal of being done by WPCS. So two months! (possibly get this so it can be used by http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-help/ or something similar for end users on their own WP installs?)

    Week One: TOC! Let’s sort out the best way to present the basic info.

    Please go to http://make.wordpress.org/support/user-manual/ and weigh in (yes, comments r good). We’re not doing a straight copy-over, but as we find pages that are relavent, we’ll sort ‘em that way. Come up with what sub-topics we should have in each section. We’re trying to KISS, so think of the least technical person you know and start there. Where would they start.

    The TOC will drive the next weeks topics.

    Mod Handbook

    The mod handbook – http://make.wordpress.org/support/handbook/ – needs your love too.

    Misc.

    Nacin List

    @nacin’s to do ;)

    Wish List

    Things @ipstenu needs to harangue @otto42 about.

     
    • @mercime 11:51 pm on August 30, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      == bbPress/BuddyPress docs need lurve too! ==

      i lurve them both. Wasn’t at the chat so are you referring to http://codex.bbpress.org/ and http://codex.buddypress.org/ or something else entirely?

      • Ipstenu (Mika Epstein) 12:21 am on August 31, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        Their codex’s :) @raggedrobins pointed out they could use some doc attention.

        • @mercime 3:50 pm on August 31, 2012 Permalink | Reply

          Thank you Ipstenu. Yes, more lurving needed. Articles in BP codex are updated or added around the time a new version rolls out or whenever needed. Those tasks have been done by BP Core Devs, BP Forums Mods and a few active members of BP community … a mirror to what’s happening at a bigger level with the WP docs I see.

          BP 1.7 is coming up the pipeline with new major theme compatibility features, internal group forums integration with bbPress plugin, new groups panel in wp-admin, among many others. All are welcome to help out now to improve BP docs :-) .

    • esmi 11:47 am on August 31, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I’m seeing multiple reference to WordPress.com in the handbook. Is this correct or have I missed something (sorry – been out of the loop for a while).

      • Andrea Rennick 12:50 pm on August 31, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        We have to edit those. :) We grabbed docs from wp.com to have something to start from.

    • esmi 2:49 pm on August 31, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Aha! So would it be OK to start editing the references out and massaging the text appropriately?

    • Siobhan 8:14 pm on August 31, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Now that we have tags for pages how about a simple tagging system for the user manual that we can keep consistent? I suggest using:

      Complete
      Needs input (use the comment form to make a note of what input is needed).

      Erm… dunno what else.

      [P.S. Is it just me that wishes that when I comment on a blog the checkbox that is automatically checked should be "Notify me of follow-up comments by email" rather than "Notify me of new posts by email"? I have to switch them every time]

    • Siobhan 7:57 pm on September 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Can we rename the Moderator Handbook as the Support Handbook? Moderator implies forums but the handbook should encompass docs too

    • Siobhan 10:19 am on September 2, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      i have copied over all of the stuff to do with editing the codex: http://make.wordpress.org/support/handbook/contributing-to-the-wordpress-codex/

      However, it needs editing to get rid of duplicate stuff and to make it easier to follow and more logical.

      For the record, I hate MediaWiki – I know that lots of people love it but it’s a serious barrier when it comes to getting people to contribute to the codex. People may be able to edit with just HTML but they don’t know that and people do say that they would help if it was built on WordPress.

      Also, eating own dog food? A beautiful, usable WordPress Codex built using WordPress would be a fantastic way to show of what WP can do.

      Update: Could add another to-do on to that list for me to edit the codex contributing stuff in the SP handbook. Will get on it asap :)

      • Ipstenu (Mika Epstein) 3:06 pm on September 2, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        The ability to handle linking on a wiki with juste [[pagename]] and the flat-level design there of is much easier than on WP (there, I said it, okay?). I’ve done tons of doc’ing on both (and installing), and there’s a time and a place for ‘em.

        Mind, I think the user manual doesn’t need to be that time or place ;)

  • hanni 11:09 pm on August 5, 2012 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: goals   

    Post hoc ergo propter hoc: approaching and defining support goals

    Breaking out from the Codex thread below – and using, inter alia, Siobhan’s comment as a starting point, let’s get some outlining goals going on:

    • A clear division between developer docs and user docs
    • A self-contained, concise yet complete landing page for the user coming in
    • Plot a useful journey for different people who want to “learn WordPress”, from beginner to ninja/rockstar/whatever the individual wishes to be - (imho this needs to both respect that not everyone will want to do everything, nor indeed have the nouse (everyone is unique, and has their own strength), whilst respecting and encouraging the learning process – it’s a balance to ensure that eveyone gets to where _they_ want to be, with the best tools and information not where we, or anyone thinks they should be. Without passion, we’d not be here – I think at this point I’m merely restating what everyone thinks and goes without saying, but, let’s just get it documented.)

    So, there’s some overlap and a meeting point with the core contributors‘ handbook, and this is where we need to be super disciplined. I know so many of us, @ipstenu, @andrea_r, @lorelle, @esmi (and everyone here, and more!) have been mulling this over for a good deal of time, so I’m just very much about grouping the discussion and the years of thought and care into a thread.

    Let’s go!

     
    • andrea_r 11:25 pm on August 5, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Probably first point is to identify actionable items, break ‘em down into manageable tasks and start the delegating / voluntold process?

      I;d say first thing is to get the wp.com useful docs over here with a first pass at editing to replace terms, then link it up to the main.

      • hanni 11:28 pm on August 5, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        sidenote on wp.com docs – @andrea_r I’ve just grabbed an export of en.support.wordpress.com. Where’d you like to start gathering these? A category here?

        • Ipstenu (Mika Epstein) 11:37 pm on August 5, 2012 Permalink | Reply

          I wish we had a CPT! Maybe @nacin will give us a sub-site make.wordpress.org/support/handbook?

          Edit! Make a /handbook page, import there!

      • hanni 11:56 pm on August 5, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        OK, we had some quick ad-hoc “IRL”conversation action going on here with @ipstenu, @nacin, @otto, @jane and others – noting:

        • Since even /handbook/ etc wouldn’t potentially even be the “final destination for this info, it’s pretty academic where we put them, as long as we keep them as pages (arguably most flexibility wrt simple portability
        • With all of this in mind, we don’t need to ask of anybody’s time (would require a couple of hurdles @nacin’s part which just make it not worth it) to just create a page and import as a sub of the Handbook page @ipstenu has already created
        • hanni 12:05 am on August 6, 2012 Permalink | Reply

          Done! @otto helped me mass move everything to under “Handbook”. Falling timber, but it’s something.

          • andrea_r 12:14 am on August 6, 2012 Permalink | Reply

            Dang, you guys work fast – and yeah, something somewhere anywhere. :D

          • hanni 12:42 am on August 6, 2012 Permalink | Reply

            So, the general principle of restricting isn’t something you’ll ever see me getting behind, and, was careful to only export / import “published” pages so there is no sensitive anything, I have made the pages private whilst we do a very quick _ initial triage – otherwise 340+ pages is a bit overwhelming to just dump out there, so:

            • @andrea_r, @esmi @ipstenu @hanni- let’s grab any and all pages where we can and, without investing the time to reformat it, or whatever (should this be hard), do a quick once-over to see if the actual page itself is something useful for .org and then make it public, if it’s not relevant, delete – I’ll presume, by Wednesday morning 10AM PST that anything still private can be made public.
            • Then, once we have the public set of pages which are, in theory, the relevant ones, we can do deeper triage, updating, and editing – as @ipstenu pointed out, this may actually be quickly done too! :)
            • This is just for 72 hours, whilst we scrub. If we can do it before then, that’s great.

    • Siobhan 3:42 pm on August 6, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Amazing – I go to bed and loads of stuff has happened! Is there anything I can do to help? Have some time to review pages tomorrow if needed.

      • Ipstenu (Mika Epstein) 5:38 pm on August 6, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        As soon as we can go through and delete the totally non-relevant .com stuff (like how to set up email/domains with .com etc), and remove the links to .com support, I think we can roll the pages out, have everyone comment, and figure out how to structure a ‘user handbook’

        @hanni and I were talking about this with the Core Handbook, and she has a great idea for overviews.

        If we can come up with big ‘header’ sections, like in a book, and lead people through what you need to know, then we can present a guided path.

        So with WP Codex we should figure out what our ‘path’ is.

        1) What is WordPress
        2) Installing
        3) Using
        4) Extending (? Themes and/or plugins … maybe Personalizing)
        5) Coding

        And then the Coding one would be where we’ve got all that advanced function calls etc. Core can link back to the Core Handbook.

    • Ipstenu (Mika Epstein) 11:49 pm on August 6, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Pages sorted and done. I have a draft post, but since the handbook doesn’t list them all, I asked @otto42 and @nacin if we could have the shortcode for child pages like they do on .com (and like the plugin in the repo) so we could just list ‘em.

    • hanni 11:52 pm on August 6, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      @ipstenu, you are a marvel.

    • Lorelle 4:55 pm on August 10, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Wow, I duck into academia and miss out on all the fun. Is there a place to find all these? What can I do?

      WordCamp PDX is coming up and some people have asked me to do a Codex unconference meeting during it. I’d love to tap into their brilliance and point them at specifics. The WordPress PDX Meetup team also wants more directions when it comes to how they can help with the Codex, especially after the very successful recent Codex events.

      Awesome.

  • Jen Mylo 3:43 pm on July 10, 2012 Permalink | Reply  

    Hello world! 

    Welcome to make.wordpress.org/support. This is the new blog for the Support contributor team, made up of support forum moderaters and documentation contributors, as decided on the mailing lists. Anyone helping in the #wordpress IRC channel is included as well. @Ipstenu is the team rep for this group, with @esmi and @andrea_r as the backup reps per the votes we took a while back from members of the two mailing lists. I’ve added them and a couple of other people as editors on this site, and they will be adding the more active contributors in turn.

    I think it would be good for us to set up a weekly IRC chat time to get things started, gain some momentum, and round up some new contributors in the process. We can identify some common goals among the more active contributors to focus on at first, and put together a schedule for how to move forward.

    I have several goals for this group based on the surveys and feedback from the community that I’d like to see accomplished over the coming months:

    • Create a guide to contributing to WordPress support.
    • Start a mentorship program for potential support volunteers to help them ramp up with confidence.
    • Handbooks! Field Guides! Whatever we call it, discrete, targeted pieces of documentation tied to specific releases and each curated by a single editor for the sake of consistency and accountability (separate from the ongoing wiki that is the Codex), that can be viewed, downloaded, or printed. This will take a lot of discussion, so we should schedule a chat about this sooner rather than later to get started on the one for end users. Other contributor groups will also be tackling handbooks specific to their areas (core contributors, etc.).
    • Start tracking stats around support activities and sharing them with the broader community.
    • Make a plan for improvements to the support forums.
    • Make a plan for how to best bubble up support issues to the core development team.

    What are your goals for this group? Introduce yourself so everyone knows who everyone else is, say a little bit about your background and your general activity level as a WP support volunteer, and let us know your goals for the group are and what you think we should focus on first. Also mention your location/time zone, for the sake of being able to set up an IRC chat. Thanks!

     
    • Rev. Voodoo 1:24 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I’m pretty excited about this! Great idea! I’m a support forum mod… I try to be active. The past coulpe of months has had me really tied up at work and school. So my participation comes and goes. I try to keep the forums clean when I have a moment, and answer questions when I have more moments! I’m on the forums at least 5 or 10 times a day I would say. Something that would be cool, although I don’t have a mental picture of what it would look like, is some sort of mod log…. what sort of actions are happening on the forum, and why? It’s hard to know who is being blocked, bozoed, etc. Dunno if that’s possible, or even desired? I’m in OHio, Eastern time… although I do the majority of my modding from work, don’t think I can even participate in any chats from work. All kinds of computer restrictions. If I can though, I will!

      • Kathryn Presner (aka zoonini) 12:51 am on July 18, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        Something that would be cool, although I don’t have a mental picture of what it would look like, is some sort of mod log…. what sort of actions are happening on the forum, and why? It’s hard to know who is being blocked, bozoed, etc.

        I really like this idea too. I’m a mod in a different forum (not WP-related) and we have exactly that in place, and it can be very useful to see who did what, when, and why. For every moderator action (i.e. delete, thread split, close, lock) a comment is required, and the whole lot is tied to a mod’s user ID, so there is always an easy-to-follow trail of explanations/accountability for every action.

        • Rev. Voodoo 11:17 am on July 18, 2012 Permalink | Reply

          Right, that’s what I was thinking. The mailing list is great, when it’s used. I have an absolutely terrible memory though, and surely can’t keep track of actions related to various user names.

    • Andrea Rennick 1:39 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Mmmm, stats….. :)

      I’m in the forums less than I was a year or so ago. Mostly I stick to multisite issues, but have been veering off to theme issues now that I do support for Studiopress.

      Some other users and I have collab on a doc on how to answer threads. I’d like to see an official doc here too – not as a “these are the rules” but general guidelines on How To Answer Posts for those who are new and unsure of the best way to go about it.

      In general, I’d also like to raise the attitude level of some responses to be nicer. :) Some responses by old timers or frustrated people can be oft-putting for new users. It’s way better than when I first showed up, but there’s still room for improvement.

      The biggest support forum improvement I can think of right now is improving the search. That’s a big job tho.

      Oh, I’m also in the Atlantic time zone – 1 hour ahead of Eastern (hi from the future!). Anything that hits the evening meal time usually leaves me out.

      • Jan Dembowski 1:58 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        Nuts, you posted re stats before I could. :-P

        Stats would be cool but I think a low priority item compared to tough problems like improving the forum and codex search functionality.

        The barometer for the WordPress forums has always been the general volume/noise/attitude regarding a topic. Look at how successful the 3.4 upgrades went, that’s a great indicator of success by the low volume of OMGWTFBBQ.

        I’m in NY and I get a kick out of when I see regulars chime in to provide support. It’s almost like watching the next shift start. ;) Having some sort of stats may be interesting just to gauge activity vs the release calendar, time of week etc.

        Not sure if it would add an immediate tangible value but it would be interesting and may help illustrate gaps in support (if any).

        • Andrea Rennick 7:50 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

          Actually some stats about the *kinds* of threads being posted would be really helpful. Are we getting a ton of empty threads being posted about installation? Then we know to make docs better / easier to find. (for example)

    • Ipstenu (Mika Epstein) 1:40 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I can probably shorthand a lot of my intro ;) Chicago/Central Time US, I mod from home and work (the latter while I watch servers reboot etc, in 20-minute chunks).

      IRC is problematic, as I can only hit it after work hours (freenode, in its entirety, is blocked via my office firewall), but I’m usually home weekdays from 7pm ET onward, and Sundays.

      A guide! I have a compilation of little notes, I’ll clean them up and add them as pages here to get things started. (They actually include the how and why we do some things) Any guide would have a lot of overlap into a handbook, but the general draft of the OMGWTFBBQ? upgrade posts I was doing could stat here too. “How to handle the upgrade kvetchfest.” ;) This though would be my first target. Once we all get in a row and Gandalf the crazy (you shall not pass!) we may be able to speed up the rest. Also a central place for the boilerplate replies ‘When someone brings up paying, copy/paste and close…’

      Stats would be kind of amusing. How many posts do we close and resolve a month, how many people get bozo’d (knowing that counts for spammers), how many become blocked…

      Also reminds me to pester @otto42 about things I’d like to see ;) Like that spam hammer to click on someone, delete their posts, and block their account. For the actual spammers.

      • Jane Wells 2:30 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        Part of the intent of this blog is to reduce the number of individual pings we throw at Otto and to have an official list of things we agree we want to do to improve. That will also make it possible for members of other contributor groups to weigh in when we propose changes so that it will be more inclusive.

        • Ipstenu (Mika Epstein) 3:36 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

          Oh yes, hit him with a list rather than a ping.

          BTW, editors can’t add users (or edit the sidebar) of a blog, so I can’t actually add new users to add content.

          • Jane Wells 3:38 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

            Ah, duh. Upping your statuses to admin. Make other contribs editors

      • kmessinger 2:50 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        The guide and boiler plate replies would be great. I have been to lazy to set up some cut and paste replies to common problems.

        • Andrea Rennick 7:52 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

          There’s an extension for Chrome that I use called popcrom. That allows you to hotkey or marco whatever you like with common responses, like this:

          cl + ctrl+space get me
          “Great since the issue is resolved, I’ll close the thread. If you have more questions, please open a new thread.”
          :D

          • rachelbaker 7:21 pm on July 18, 2012 Permalink | Reply

            I use the Mac app TextExpander for the same thing. Really helps with common replies like: “Please include a link to your site” which I seem to use all the time

            • Andrea Rennick 2:41 pm on July 19, 2012 Permalink

              Yeah I have one for that too. :D Also for “Please deactivate all plugins first to see if any of those are interfering.”

    • Andrea Rennick 1:42 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Oh and I’m getting an error trying to sub to the feed for this site. I want it in my feed reader, not my inbox. :P

    • Remkus de Vries 1:45 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Hadn’t realized that there even was mailing list :)

      I’m the admin/moderator of the Dutch WordPress forum so that sets me in the UTC+1 timezone. I am mostly active on the Dutch side of WordPress things.

      My biggest gripe is also the search in general results, but more importantly the (lack of) localized search result. That and the fact that we’re still not on the bbPress plugin (although I’m told that’s going to be fixed soon.

    • Ze Fontainhas 2:08 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I’m the admin/mod of the Portuguese support forums (both Portugal and Brazil), and am located in Lisbon (UTC).

      I like this a lot better than the mailing list and looking forward to help out making moderators of forums not in English feel more like part of the family. Despite the fact the nearly all of them already talk to each other over at Polyglots, they have much to gain by taking part in the conversation here.

      • Jane Wells 3:23 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        I just added you to the blog users, and you can add int’l forum mods as you see fit. That way they can discuss general issues here, and keep the non-english-specific parts on polyglots. Cool?

    • esmi 2:59 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Timezone: GMT/BST here. I work from home, so I tend to drop in & out of the forums all day (with the exception of weekends). Since I’m “The Boss”, I can IRC whenever, so I can act a central point to pass on messages for those who can’t IRC if needed.

      I’d love a mod log if that’s possible. Or at least some sort of “notes” field attached to user profiles that we can use to indicate reasons for mod actions or highlight any concerns.

    • Rafael Poveda - RaveN 3:21 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I’m the admin and a moderator for Spanish (es) support forums. Also the maintainer for es_ES versions and translator. Located in UTC+1.

      I have the same request as Remkus about localized search results :)

    • Christine 3:23 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I’m on the west coast, so just woke up and got this from @zoonini. I wasn’t on the email list for some reason. I’m not as active on the forum as I would like to be. I might be on there only two or three times a week. I do find bogged down, by really basic questions these days, like “help, I can’t change my font colour”. I don’t mind answering these, but sometimes I would like to have a standard… “have you google it?” answer. At times, I feel as though people have lost the ability to seek out and search for stuff and they just want others to do it for them… This is off topic and I have no idea how to resolve that on the forum. Hopefully some css/html tutorials will solve that. Perhaps compiling a list of some sorts for beginners would be helpful.

    • raggedrobins 3:43 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I’m at GMT/BST and, like Esmi, I work from home/am the boss, so can attend an IRC chat most times.

      I help out with the WordPress Codex and, more recently, with writing the docs for bbPreaa. Also, I spend most of my time writing documentation for different WordPress stuff.

      I think it’s really cool to see the support and documentation teams merged into one. Something that would be really helpful is to figure out a way for the support team to flag issues that are recurring again and again. This would enable the documentation team to update where there are any holes in the docs.

      I’m also happy to help out with any training guides etc.

      • Andrea Rennick 8:01 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        “Something that would be really helpful is to figure out a way for the support team to flag issues that are recurring again and again. This would enable the documentation team to update where there are any holes in the docs.”

        Yeah, that’s what I’m hoping some (even rudimentary) stats would help.

    • mrmist 3:51 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I’m pretty much constantly on irc as mrmist (currently groupcat). Ping me on there if you need me to join a different channel from one that I’m already in for a meeting. If it’s at a reasonable time, I’ll join in.

    • Lorelle 4:00 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Thank you.

      We have some guides for using the forum, for volunteers as well as general public, on the Codex. See Support Forum Volunteers to start.

      I think that would serve best as a starting point and would love to discuss how to expand it.

      With so many of the international forum/independent site mods and coordinators here, it would be awesome to have a reference Page on this site listing who’s who doing what with some time zone references.

      The same applies to documentation. There are some amazingly generous folk out there supporting the WordPress Codex and documentation and it would be good to highlight who they are and their skill set for reference.

      As discussed on the docs mailing list, there is some concerns about blending forum support with docs. One of the big issues is reporting on spam and out of control topics. As the P2 Theme makes categories a little more challenging to use, we need a way of not letting such reports flood the site. They are critical and require immediate attention. They came through the mailing list for the forums before. Is there a best practices for such reports to mods?

      I’ve done some successful Codex recruiting in the past, and now that there is a better communications spot, I’d love to see these restored and new strategies in place for getting more people involved, and better yet, support continued involvement.

      I’m on PST time zone.

      The old IRC was freenode #wp-docs if memory serves. I’m sure it is still up and running as it was last time I checked.

      For those unfamiliar with me, I’m one of the original editors of the Codex from “way back when” it all started. I’ve been contributing to the forums and Codex since 2003.

      I started the WordPress Lessons section on the Codex and continue to support it, thanks to the continuing enthusiasm and contributions of so many for basic lessons in how to use WordPress. It still serves as a helpful resource along with the great work of the Learn WordPress.com team. We’re working on taking the WordPress Lessons section a step further than Learn WordPress offers, going into more detail and supporting their efforts.

      I also host the WordPress Documentation Team Task List which has served as a to do list for getting things done and taking on tasks in the Codex for a couple of years. Please have one of this site’s admins contact me so we can transfer content and to do lists here.

      Thanks!

      • Michael 5:45 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        I been around WordPress for about a year and a half now.

        I got hooked when I attended a WordCamp in Savannah while doing research on a WordPress project. I’ve attended a couple of other WordCamps and started going to the local meetups.

        I did theme reviews for the theme review team for awhile but I felt my PHP knowledge level was not adequate to do a good thorough review so I backed off from that.

        I do contribute to the forums when I can.

        Trying to find a place to contribute.

      • Ipstenu (Mika Epstein) 5:54 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        I think spam and that sort of drama can keep to the email list (at least for now). Spam in forums should be reported via the modlook tag, and discussion about said spammers would stay on the mailing list. (BTW if you see a spammer, you only have to tag one thread with modlook ;) When the spammer’s obviously trying to sell Viagra, we delete all the posts)

      • Andrea Rennick 8:00 pm on July 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        “We have some guides for using the forum, for volunteers as well as general public, on the Codex. See Support Forum Volunteers to start.

        I think that would serve best as a starting point and would love to discuss how to expand it.”

        Yeah that’s definitely super skimpy.

        I’m envisioning things like:

        • guidelines for mod behaviour (Don’t be That Guy, for example)
        • common responses
        • tips on what to do when things get out of hand
        • where to send people for help on things outside the scope of WP (general css for example)

        I have talked to people who have read that, know their way around the forums, but are lost when it comes down to actually *how* to answer the thread while being helpful. That’s where they get stuck.

        For some people, it does come natural, but it can also be a learned skill.

      • Mercime 3:43 am on July 18, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        Hi Lorelle. Just wanted to thank you for your contributions to the Codex, among other WP stuff, “way back when” to present. Kudos. The Codex and your blog were my top resources when I started out with WP back in 2007 :-) Thanks again.

        • Lorelle 5:30 pm on August 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

          Somehow I missed this comment. Thanks for the kind words. I’m so lucky to have worked with some of the best folks in the world that give so much of their time on the Codex, Support Forums, etc. for the love of WordPress. For me, it is a never-ending source of joy and reward.

    • Kathryn Presner (aka zoonini) 12:43 am on July 18, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Glad to see this project happening and great to see everyone here!

      I’m a WordPress designer/developer currently running my own business, working from home in Montreal – Eastern time zone. I also do a lot of public speaking, giving talks on WordPress at WordCamps and other events, most recently at WCNYC where I had the pleasure of hanging out in the hackers’ room with Siobhan (aka raggedrobins). I’ll be giving two talks at WordCamp Montreal on August 18-19 so if anyone will be in town for that, please let me know as I’d love to meet you.

      My time in the support forums is sporadic, depending on what other projects I’ve got going on.

      For me the priorities would be:

      1. creating a bank of standard responses we can all share and adapt to prevent reinventing the wheel when answering common forum questions
      2. adding essential forum tools such as the ability to add notes to both users and threads, with the notes only visible to mods
      3. developing a set of more fully fleshed-out standard procedures on handling common (and less common) forum issues – aka moderator’s handbook

      I look forward to seeing how this develops.

    • Sergey Biryukov 3:35 am on July 21, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Howdy!

      I’m an admin/moderator of Russian WordPress support forums (also a maintainer of ru_RU releases since 2007). Located in Rostov-on-Don (UTC+4).

      There were times when I could easily spend the whole day answering questions :) Last year I’ve shifted most of my activity to Trac, but I’m still on the forums several times a day.

      So far my biggest concern regarding the forums is that topics with Cyrillic titles cannot be found via Google: http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/19011

      As a workaround, I was able to switch the search form on ru.forums.wordpress.org to use a Russian search engine (which works great). However, as Remkus and Rafael noted earlier, there’s no way to get localized search results using the “Search WordPress.org” form in the header (the trick from comment 14 didn’t work for me, probably for the same reasons as in the ticket above).

      It would also be nice if WP profiles included volunteers’ activity on local forums as well: http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/17917

      The handbooks, stats and improvement goals outlined in the post all sound great, looking forward to contribute wherever I can.

    • Michael Beckwith 10:35 pm on August 5, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I can jump in here. I’m Michael, I am a freelance web developer slash theme developer with occasional personal dabblings in plugins. You can find me as “tw2113″ pretty much everywhere online. I have spent most of my “support” time in the IRC channel. It’s been long enough that some consider me some sort of “guru” which I try to deny all the time.

    • hanni 9:32 pm on August 8, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      OK! Let’s do this thing!

      We need to be clear of other chats, including UI (Tues, 11AM PST) and Dev (Weds, 1PM PST) chats, and make the time as friendly to the greatest number of people as possible so… Thursday sounds like a plan.

      Starting next week so: Thursday, 16th August 1800 UTC will be the inaugural chat, we can always adjust for the future, but let’s plan on making this time slot – have discussed with @nacin, who is kindly helping out- we’re still figuring out which channel would be optimal. TBA!

      But, yay :)

      • Jane Wells 9:37 pm on August 8, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        I’ve already talked to @sivel about setting up a permanent channel for this group. Main issue is choosing a name for it that people won’t see and think means “come here for support” instead of “come here to join the support team.”
        #wordpress-support (no way, they’ll show up in droves)
        #wordpress-support-team (kind of long, but works)
        #wordpress-support-group (ha, couldn’t resist)
        Suggest away, and we can set up the new channel before the inaugural meeting. Speaking of which, @matt would like to be included when discussion on handbook kicks off. I’l leave it to you guys to coordinate with him.

        • hanni 9:39 pm on August 8, 2012 Permalink | Reply

          Yeah, @nacin was mentioning that the jQuery guys use #wordpress-meeting, but… You’re absolutely right about #wordpress-support being a bit of an uhoh invitation to uhoh.

          • Jane Wells 9:41 pm on August 8, 2012 Permalink | Reply

            The idea of having dedicated channels for each contributor group is mainly based on being able to log them so differently-time-zoned members (and new additions later on) can read logs without having to wade through other stuff.

        • Ipstenu (Mika Epstein) 12:15 am on August 9, 2012 Permalink | Reply

          #wordpress-ms (make support). Hidden rather well. Or #wp-make-support if we don’t mind a drop back?

          As I mentioned to Hanni, I don’t get Daytime (US) IRC back until August 27th.

          • Jane Wells 12:21 am on August 9, 2012 Permalink | Reply

            People would think #wordpress-ms meant multisite. Better to use #wordpress- as base than #wp- for freenode naming standards on official channels. Could go with the initials idea and do something like #wordpress-sfd (support, forums, and docs). Side benefit: someday someone would do a spoof video about the SFD team that is a parody of the LXD, and would use stills and video from drunken WordCamp afterparty dancing to do it. Potentially also a song to the tune of VFD by Michelle Shocked.

      • Hanni 5:06 am on August 16, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        Something fairly sad, necessitating immediate time and attention and therefore somewhat taking me away from the internet has come up in my personal life. It’s highly unlikely that I’ll be able to make tomorrow. I apologise.

        IRC channel: looks like there is a consensus around #wordpress-sfd, however it’s late in the day for tomorrow and setting this up on time requires asking a bit much of @sivel and @nacin so late on. So.. perhaps #wordpress-dev for the initial chat, if this isn’t possible?

        @andrea_r, @esmi, and gang looks like things, as per email, are in your more than capable hands, given @ipstenu‘s absence.

        I will be “back” in full, the week of the 27th to help out wherever the need arises.

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