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  • Andrew Nacin 4:40 am on December 19, 2012 Permalink
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    For Wednesday, let’s plan on a 3.5.1 ticket triage meeting at 19:00 UTC (2 p.m. Eastern). Please be around if you can (#wordpress-dev of course), especially if you have something in progress for 3.5.1, so we can hammer things out and start thinking about timing.

    The dev chat is normally two hours later, at 2100 UTC. I won’t be available, and will leave that to @markjaquith and co. I expect it will be a light meeting again. 3.5.1 timing should be discussed, which should be easier with the triage session happening earlier.

     

    • Andrew Nacin 8:51 pm on December 19, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m currently feeling January 2 for a 3.5.1, which gives us a few weeks to fix everything in the pipeline. We could offer a hotfix now for #22985 and #22944, which both screw with data.

      Specific 3.5.1 tickets to discuss:

      • Whether to remove wp-app.php on upgrade: #22855
      • How to handle recoverable data loss for image editing: #22985 (fairly serious and needs a plan of action)
      • Windows-based servers are going to experience a bit of an issue. Need a plan of action. #22900. cc @dd32, @kurtpayne
      • No idea what is going on with #22899 (load-scripts.php issues). Is this the source of mod_pagespeed woes? Any more ideas (from @ipstenu and @dh-shredder, particular)?
      • Status on the three TinyMCE tickets, @azaozz? #22941, #22766, #22888
      • #22895, a create_posts issue, needs investigating.

      Additional notes on remaining tickets:

      • Any media UI-related tickets are getting reviewed by koopersmith (who is traveling today), so feel free to skip those. None are serious.
      • #22883, #22944, #22858, and #22882 are all API-level (post/user) issues that seem good to go. They need unit tests.
      • I need to pow-wow with @dd32 on Twenty Twelve upgrade issues. If anyone has any other thoughts: #22856
      • I will handle $wpdb->prepare() this week. That’s #22873.

      • Mike Schroder 9:02 pm on December 19, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I don’t suspect #22899 is the source of the mod_pagespeed issues, since encoding the brackets doesn’t solve the problem. We’re reaching out to the mod_pagespeed guys on this, and adding a temporary rule to avoid mod_pagespeed optimizing wp-admin’s JavaScript (which it arguably shouldn’t be doing anyway).

      • Robert Chapin (miqrogroove) 8:50 pm on December 21, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        #23041 needs review for 3.5.1 milestone.

    • Andrew Nacin 8:55 pm on December 19, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      And as alluded to in the previous comment, is there anything we can offer a hotfix for? This should be based on both severity and impact. Is forcing out a fix for load-scripts.php (that involves either encoding [] or chunking <script> tags) enough to fix most JS issues? If not, is there anything else we can do to avoid a lot of JS conflict/error issues people are having? Is there a common pattern in the support forums that suggest there is something we can target? etc.

  • Andrew Nacin 7:01 am on December 12, 2012 Permalink
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    Post-3.5 IRC meeting 

    Here’s the agenda for the December 12 developer chat in IRC. That’d be #wordpress-dev on freenode at 21:00 UTC. Should be a fairly low-key meeting:

    • Congratulations on WordPress 3.5, everyone.
    • Fallout of 3.5. How’s the support forums? Any common issues? What can we learn from plugins that broke?
    • Can we help with any common issues? Can documentation (like field guide posts) help?
    • Triage 3.5.1 tickets. What does our timeline currently look like?
    • Discuss plans for the month of December, and 3.6.
    • Stare at the download counter.

    Thank you so much for a great release. Really proud of what we accomplished. — @nacin, @koop

     

  • Andrew Nacin 12:26 am on November 28, 2012 Permalink
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    Running tally of things we need to discuss for the November 28 IRC chat…

    Final decisions need to be reached on:

    • The functionality of the browser uploader and media-new.php — #22604
    • IE7 and media — #22609

    Status reports needed on:

    • Early returns for RC2 and the merge to WP.com (both which should be out before tomorrow)
    • Status of remaining tickets
    • How are the support forums doing? We need to continue to closely monitor http://wordpress.org/support/forum/alphabeta.

    Things to do:

     

  • Andrew Nacin 7:08 pm on November 14, 2012 Permalink
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    Today’s dev chat, starting in two hours:

    • Triage http://core.trac.wordpress.org/report/5. No ticket should be without an owner, a path forward, and a timeline.
    • Discuss timeline for RC1 and how we are all feeling.
    • Things we need to do (or start thinking about) to prepare for a final release:
      • We need an About page of features. So, what are our wins?
      • Full sweeps for RTL, help text, IE, no JS, the blue color scheme, performance regressions, and 100% passing unit tests.
      • Continue to scan the support forums and awaiting review tickets reported against trunk to ensure we don’t miss anything.
      • Brainstorm what features and API changes need written tutorials (the “field guide”), and get people on board to research and write them.
      • Figure out what changes might need “3.5 compat” posts. The wpdb::prepare() argument change comes to mind, and obviously parts of media.

    All tickets should have people responsible for them, but also, so should all of these release preparation tasks. There’s something in there for everyone — bug gardeners, documentation, research, testing, etc.

     

  • Andrew Nacin 5:14 pm on November 7, 2012 Permalink
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    Dev chat is moving from 2000 UTC to 2100 UTC, as daylight saving time has gone into affect in both the US and UK. This keeps the meeting at 4 PM U.S. Eastern (a little under 4 hours from now).

    Agenda for today is to shore up http://core.trac.wordpress.org/report/6 and ready another beta to be kicked out the door.

     

  • Andrew Nacin 7:53 pm on October 31, 2012 Permalink
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    We’re going to do a bug scrub in lieu of a dev chat today. Starts in 7 minutes. (Most core developers still together for the WordPress Community Summit, and we’ve been doing quite a bit of chatting already…)

    Let’s aim to resolve/triage/punt a significant amount of report/6 in preparation for a beta.

     

  • Andrew Nacin 3:27 pm on October 17, 2012 Permalink
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    Suggest items for today’s dev chat.

    chat.freenode.net, #wordpress-dev, 20:00 UTC

    This will likely be a working meeting. Let’s push through and line things up for beta 3.

     

  • Andrew Nacin 5:35 pm on October 10, 2012 Permalink
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    Please suggest items for today’s IRC dev chat. Today is the target date for Beta 2. Let’s figure out what we need to get done.

     

    • Marko Heijnen 6:16 pm on October 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I was wondering if the plugins ‘Atom Publishing Protocol’ and ‘Link Manager’ also should have WordPress as an author. It does seem like a ‘core’ plugin

    • GrahamArmfield 8:24 am on October 11, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hi Andrew. I’ve seen a flurry of activity around some of the accessibility tickets that I and others raised during the summer, and I’ve seen some changes in the latest versions of the admin screens. This is great but I wondered how work was progressing on making the Theme Customizer fully keyboard operable?

      I’m guessing also that an accessible version of the Custom Menu builder is not being progressed for 3.5. Is that correct?

  • Andrew Nacin 5:47 pm on October 3, 2012 Permalink
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    Please suggest items for today’s IRC dev chat.

    I think the goal for today is:

    • Determine how 3.5 Beta 1 was received. Any major bugs? Any lingering issues we need decision points on? How do the support forums and Trac queues look?
    • Determine the goals for Beta 2, dropping next week. (After that, one beta per week until we transition to RCs.) Media needs a final push, and a few things still need to land. We need to start looking at closing out tasks/projects that are in trunk but need tweaks, testing, or changes to consider them done.
     

  • Andrew Nacin 11:11 pm on September 25, 2012 Permalink
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    Please suggest items for the Wednesday, September 26, dev chat.

    Suggested reading: Countdown to 3.5 Beta 1 and Timeline for Twenty Twelve 1.0.

    Updated. Agenda topics based on the comment thread:

    • #21951 – Twenty Twelve – Conditionals in one template versus more templates but less logic
    • #21101 – get_comments() – comment_approved versus status
    • #18302 – theme_uri() with child theme inheritance
    • #22002 – Plugin favorites via the plugin installer screen

    An incomplete list of things that need to land before beta 1:

    • Welcome screen v2
    • Color picker (even if it is the initial pass; we can follow up after with @mattwiebe’s changes)
    • Retina spinners (more likely people can find bugs)
    • Page on front UI
    • Multisite in a subdirectory
     

    • Andrew Nacin 11:15 pm on September 25, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think I am outnumbered on #21951 but I am curious what others think. Conditionals in one template versus more templates but less logic.

    • TomasM 12:29 am on September 26, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I hope after release Twenty Twelve will return to GitHub ;)

      It’s much more fun to participate over there than on Trac.

      • Andrew Nacin 5:22 am on September 26, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Sorry Trac isn’t as fun for you. Twenty Twelve, Eleven, and Ten will continue to be maintained on Trac for the foreseeable future.

    • Scott Taylor 3:59 am on September 26, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Few things I haven’t marked 3.5 that have patches and might still be good candidates:

      What’s up with this one (term cache semi-overhaul)? #21760 – also fixes #11531.

      The RegEx for slurping URLs out of post_content for pings / trackbacks is old / ghetto / not robust, I replaced it here: #9064, also fixes #15549.

      Meta Query doesn’t currently CAST order by value when meta_type is passed: #21621, related #15031

      Post metadata action bug: #11683

    • Andrew Nacin 5:23 am on September 26, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      #21101 — get_comments(), comment_approved versus status.

    • Andrew Nacin 5:24 am on September 26, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      #18302 — theme_uri() with child theme inheritance, etc. Do we want this? Need this? Do we know exactly what use cases make sense and we want to support? Or is this a punt?

    • Drew Jaynes (DrewAPicture) 7:09 am on September 26, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Dialogue on #19956 would be nice. I seem to recall the link/button _used_ to say Add Media. Some people seem to think it should make a comeback.

      • Andrew Nacin 7:32 am on September 26, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        @koopersmith is almost done with attachment inserting (into the editor) and editing (from the editor). The next step is to then add a new button for the 3.5 media workflow next to the old 3.4 button. (Obviously, only for beta.) So I’ve just been waiting for him to drop something in.

        After, it’ll get covered in a UI chat and will be part of user testing by @lessbloat.

    • Otto 11:26 am on September 26, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      #21914 is simple enough that I’d like to get it into 3.5 if possible. I’ll be around to talk about it.

      • Andrew Nacin 4:50 pm on September 26, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        This could use some basic unit tests, if only so the changes are clearly understandable with examples. I’m sold, otherwise.

    • John Blackbourn (johnbillion) 3:19 pm on September 26, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      #21632 – has anyone (@MarkJaquith?) contact Imgur about their maxwidth/maxheight problem? (Sorry, pot this comment in the wrong thread earlier)

    • Otto 3:34 pm on September 26, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      #22002 – Plugin Favorites on the plugin installer screen

    • Beau Lebens 4:24 pm on September 26, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      No ticket currently, but — addition of a “Location” post format, for post which are primarily centered around a location (likely indicated with the recommended geo_latitude and geo_longitude postmeta).

      • Andrew Nacin 4:48 pm on September 26, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Hmm. This sounds like a “Status” with geolocation. At the very least, a geolocation API should come first, I’d think.

    • John Blackbourn (johnbillion) 7:25 pm on September 26, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I wonder if we should discuss the post format issue again which didn’t make it into discussion the other week as we ran out of time. Twenty Twelve doesn’t support all post formats and either a) it should or b) we should consider the admin UI displaying all formats regardless of the active theme.

    • Andrew Ozz 8:10 pm on September 26, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      How about #19845? The base code works well but drag-drop in the editor uploading would need to be integrated with the new media after all of it gets in.

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